Another strong game for Hayward

[AZWarrior]

Think he'll go pro after this season?   

[nyg]

There is no way that will happen.  He would be a #2 guard in the NBA and is not at that level yet.

[AZWarrior]

Gee - ya think?

Note my Ooooze post two rows down.   

[nyg]

Got it.

[Final Four or Bust]

Think he'll go pro after this season?   

No, but I certainly think that he will play in the NBA once his career is over at MU.  I still think he might be our best overall player and does everything we ask -- shoot the three and play the post and grapple down low.  Great player and quickly become one of my favorites at MU.

[MUSF]

Hayward reminds me Alando Tucker in a lot of ways and I think he will have the same issues whenever he decides to to go pro.

Let's hope he hangs around as long as Tucker did.

[Doctor V]

Hayward reminds me Alando Tucker in a lot of ways and I think he will have the same issues whenever he decides to to go pro.

Let's hope he hangs around as long as Tucker did.

I went to hs with alando and his perimeter skill set seemed to regress at the collegiate level, which was really surprising. Also, he seemed to lose some of his athletic ability and ball handling skills. I know its funny cause he was a great college player and player of the year in his conference, as well as on the short list for poy in the country. I think the way Bo played him as wisconsin hurt his NBA chances- he is not a low post guy, but he did do a hell of a job in the post.

That said, Hayward's shooting touch is far superior to alando. You are right though and thats a good comparison. Tuck was more of a beast inside, which would be nice to see more of from lazar.

Id like to see Hayward be more of a 4 for this teams sake, with all the bigs issues. However, for his future I think he would be better off playing as a 2/3. I dont see him ever doing that at MU with the recruiting style. His only problem at the 2 is that hes a bit slow for a guard and cant create his own jump shot, a prob alando also had. Good thing for lazar is that it seems he is a decent fit as an NBA 3. Its funny how it always works out this way, but I think his outside shot will determine his NBA fate

[MUFanInGreenBay]

Do you folks think Hayward's got enough athleticism and quickness to potentially play at the NBA level? At the beginning of the season I would've said no, however, he's improved a lot in that category. Thoughts?

[MUCam]

Some people are just pure basketball players. Hayward is one of them. Unfortunately, so is 90% of the NBA. It'll be a close call, but he has two years to improve.

[NavinRJohnson]

Hayward is a far better shooter than Tucker was. Tucker made his living around tthe basket in college, and simply doesn't have the size or strength to do that in the NBA. Hayward is a much different player, and still developing.

[Final Four or Bust]

I agree with others -- Haywood has an outside shot (as we've seen a few times this year) and can hit from pretty much anywhere, unlike Tucker.  Haywood could easily play the 2 or the 3 for us, IMO, but it helping the team do the dirty work down low right now.  In reality, he is becoming a much more polished all around player because of it.  He's not ready yet -- but by the time he is finished I wouldn't be against him.  (And he doesn't have size issues at his natural position like so many of our other players).

[mufan924]

he will play in the NBA, but definitely needs to stay all four years, and i dont foresee anyone telling him he can leave early.

[Desert_Eagle]

I agree with others -- Haywood has an outside shot (as we've seen a few times this year) and can hit from pretty much anywhere, unlike Tucker.  Haywood could easily play the 2 or the 3 for us, IMO, but it helping the team do the dirty work down low right now.  In reality, he is becoming a much more polished all around player because of it.  He's not ready yet -- but by the time he is finished I wouldn't be against him.  (And he doesn't have size issues at his natural position like so many of our other players).

Hayward

[Muhoops85]

Wasn't Heywood on the White Shadow?

[SoCalEagle]

It was Hayward, Thorpe, Jackson, Reese and Coolidge as the starting five for Carver High.  Salami, "Go Go" Gomez, and Goldstein came off the bench. 

Don't ask how I know this useless trivia (too much tv as a kid).

[chapman]

I agree with others -- Haywood has an outside shot (as we've seen a few times this year) and can hit from pretty much anywhere, unlike Tucker.  Haywood could easily play the 2 or the 3 for us, IMO, but it helping the team do the dirty work down low right now.  In reality, he is becoming a much more polished all around player because of it.  He's not ready yet -- but by the time he is finished I wouldn't be against him.  (And he doesn't have size issues at his natural position like so many of our other players).

Hayward

 

On a side note, I'm glad everyone has gotten to know Cubillan well enough to spell his name correctly since it was a pet peeve of mine.  Last year we had Cubillon, Cubilan, Cubillion, Cublian, Coobillan, Cubion, and a host of other varieties.  Now if we can get announcers and analysts to say Dah-VEED instead of DAY-vid.

[muhoosier260]

i personally think hayward is the mvp of the season, thus far. whenever he plays well, MU wins, when he doesn't MU suffers. he's the best on the team at breaking the zone (sometimes the only one) and he's most consistent from FT and 3 pt. buuuuutttt, i don't know about nba, most b/c of his size. yes, he is versatile. however, he's being groomed as a power forward, when he clearly isn't big enough to play that position in the nba. his body size is conducive to a shooting guard, but he doesn't have the game of a shooting guard. i suppose his best shot would be as a smaller small forward. time will tell

[WashDCWarrior]

Hayward has the best NBA potential on the team. Better than any of the big 3.  Though he primarily plays the 4 here, he would definately be a 3 at the next level.  It's not uncommon at all, given the size differetial for a college player to switch positions in the pros, especially for bigger positions (a 5 becoming a 4 or a 4 becoming a 3) 6-9 may be a center in college, but it's a PF in the NBA.

[muwarrior87]

Hayward reminds me Alando Tucker in a lot of ways and I think he will have the same issues whenever he decides to to go pro.

Let's hope he hangs around as long as Tucker did.

I went to hs with alando and his perimeter skill set seemed to regress at the collegiate level, which was really surprising. Also, he seemed to lose some of his athletic ability and ball handling skills. I know its funny cause he was a great college player and player of the year in his conference, as well as on the short list for poy in the country. I think the way Bo played him as wisconsin hurt his NBA chances- he is not a low post guy, but he did do a hell of a job in the post.

That said, Hayward's shooting touch is far superior to alando. You are right though and thats a good comparison. Tuck was more of a beast inside, which would be nice to see more of from lazar.

Id like to see Hayward be more of a 4 for this teams sake, with all the bigs issues. However, for his future I think he would be better off playing as a 2/3. I dont see him ever doing that at MU with the recruiting style. His only problem at the 2 is that hes a bit slow for a guard and cant create his own jump shot, a prob alando also had. Good thing for lazar is that it seems he is a decent fit as an NBA 3. Its funny how it always works out this way, but I think his outside shot will determine his NBA fate

perfect example of Bo's system destroying the potential of a great hs player.  He consistently takes pretty good high school athletes and makes them lose speed and quickness.

[muhoosier260]

Hayward has the best NBA potential on the team. Better than any of the big 3.  Though he primarily plays the 4 here, he would definately be a 3 at the next level.  It's not uncommon at all, given the size differetial for a college player to switch positions in the pros, especially for bigger positions (a 5 becoming a 4 or a 4 becoming a 3) 6-9 may be a center in college, but it's a PF in the NBA.

i'm not doubting you, but who did you have in mind?

[WashDCWarrior]

???

[muhoosier260]

hahah. i guess i should've been more specific. what i meant was if you could give me some examples of college power forwards dropping down to the small forward position who had success at both of their respective positions @ their respective levels

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Does Hayward remind anybody of Josh Howard?

Howard was kind of a combo forward in college who could guard a couple of different positions, but primarily did his scoring in the paint.

Howard was a much better defender in college and is a great athlete (with super long arms)... but their offensive games (as a soph.) and overall size are very similar.

[mviale]

I was thinking More like Jordan

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