collapse

* '23-'24 SOTG Tally


2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek11
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.6
Mitchell2
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

* Big East Standings

* Recent Posts

NBA green room by MU82
[June 15, 2024, 10:20:46 PM]


2024 Transfer Portal by MuggsyB
[June 15, 2024, 09:13:28 PM]


Ooops by MuggsyB
[June 15, 2024, 09:12:51 PM]


Recruiting as of 6/15/24 by Jockey
[June 15, 2024, 06:14:18 PM]


President Lovell Passes Away by Skatastrophy
[June 15, 2024, 09:14:49 AM]


Media Rights Update by Shooter McGavin
[June 15, 2024, 07:12:21 AM]


Marquette NBA Thread by mileskishnish72
[June 15, 2024, 04:49:35 AM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

* Next up: The long cold summer

Marquette
Marquette

Open Practice

Date/Time: Oct 11, 2024 ???
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

Author Topic: [Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket  (Read 2578 times)

brewcity77

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 26536
  • Warning-This poster may trigger thin skinned users
    • Cracked Sidewalks
[Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket
« on: December 25, 2019, 10:26:03 PM »
Big East? More like Biggest East. 9 Big East teams make the latest Cracked Sidewalks field:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2019/12/really-big-east-2020-ncaa-mock-bracket.html
This space reserved for a 2024 2025 National Championship celebration banner.

Elonsmusk

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 2294
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2019, 10:25:01 AM »
Nice work Brew.

Agree this is a down year in college hoop.  Much as I'd like to see 9 from the Big East, just don't think that will happen from an optics/political standpoint.  Currently Big East ranks 3rd in Pomeroy in conference ratings.  Suspect we will get 6 or 7.

Also, Creighton as a projected 5 seed currently?  What makes you so bullish on Creighton? 

MU is hard to project, but I see them earning a higher seed than Creighton.  I'd guess MU gets a 7 or 8 seed.



brewcity77

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 26536
  • Warning-This poster may trigger thin skinned users
    • Cracked Sidewalks
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2019, 11:08:27 AM »
What pushes Creighton up is overall body of work. Right now, resumes get poor in a hurry, but their two losses are NET #1 San Diego State on a neutral and at Michigan, neither of which are damaging. They also have two Q1 wins (MU has none), a Q2 win, and it doesn't hurt that their two Q3 wins are against teams that are currently in the field (13-seed LA Tech & 15-seed Oral Roberts).

I think 6 is a lock. Since the league reconfiguration, at least 6 teams have had a 9-9 or better record and most teams in the league would have a good case at 9-9. SHU, SJU, & Providence are the only teams that might need 10+ wins to get in & some teams would be comfortable at 8-10 (Butler & Nova for sure).

The only way we see 9 is if there's mass parity, like last year but with one team a clear bottom (say a 3-15 Providence). 7-8 feels most likely, and I'm hoping for 8 because it would break that 1991 record.
This space reserved for a 2024 2025 National Championship celebration banner.

Dr. Blackheart

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13061
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2019, 11:34:09 AM »
One metric where the Big East leads in Torvik is Wins Above Bubble. Definition is below, but the BE is a +7.7...which is a big lead over other conferences. This supports the idea of a high bid year for the BE...at least to date.

For example, the B1G is only a +0.3 despite being #1 in KPom and T-Rank. This suggests the B1G has a bunch of good and bad teams, but with less parity.

http://www.barttorvik.com/trank.php?sort=34&begin=20191101&end=20200501&conlimit=All&top=0&hteam=&conyes=1&venue=All&type=All&mingames=0&quad=5&rpi=#

Quote
Can you explain WAB? I read the definition and then i see the higher number get greener. If a bubble quality team would win more games against the team's schedule, why would that be a good thing?
Reply
Replies

Bart TorvikFebruary 12, 2018 at 11:40 AM
The WAB number isn't how many games a bubble team would win against that team's schedule, it's how many MORE (or fewer) games a team has won against its schedule than a bubble-quality team would be expected to win. So say a team has a schedule that a bubble quality team would be expected to go 10-10 against. If the team is actually 15-5, that's a WAB of +5.0. If they were 5-15, the team's WAB would be -5.0. If they are 10-10, it's par, 0.

brewcity77

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 26536
  • Warning-This poster may trigger thin skinned users
    • Cracked Sidewalks
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2019, 11:48:56 AM »
There are a ton of teams this year that are in that "are they any good" category who we usually expect to be good. Virginia, UNC, Kentucky, and Purdue are the ones I mention, but I'm also not sure how good Michigan State or Arizona, who have great kenpom numbers but little resume beef, or teams with gaudy records against weak schedules like Auburn and Indiana really are.

It's still super early in the season, but WAB is significant because looking specifically at the Big 10, how good are some of their elite teams? Squads like Michigan State, Purdue, and Maryland all started top-20 in kenpom and are still top-15, but how much of that is old or projected data? Ultimately, it comes down to results, and no league has better results in non-con play than the Big East.
This space reserved for a 2024 2025 National Championship celebration banner.

Benny B

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 5969
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2019, 12:17:32 AM »
One metric where the Big East leads in Torvik is Wins Above Bubble. Definition is below, but the BE is a +7.7...which is a big lead over other conferences. This supports the idea of a high bid year for the BE...at least to date.

Are those wins above a soft bubble, or just a regular bubble?
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Dr. Blackheart

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 13061
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Really Big East: 2020 NCAA Mock Bracket
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2019, 07:24:24 AM »
Are those wins above a soft bubble, or just a regular bubble?

Silent verbal bubble

 

feedback