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tower912

Finally.    Feistiness about being underrated.   And coming from a guy who wants Wojo fired.    Huzzah!   The whole board is sitting around the Delta House before Bluto goes on his rant.      It is game day.    Fire up!
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Eye dunno, seams 'bout wright, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Lens

Start 47, end 27...

"I had Marquette outside my top 45 last fall and by seasons end they were knocking on the door of the Top 25.  That is why Wojo is a rising star in my book"

Jay Bilas, April 2020
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Lens on November 05, 2019, 08:22:08 AM
Start 47, end 27...

"I had Marquette outside my top 45 last fall and by seasons end they were knocking on the door of the Top 25.  That is why Wojo is a rising star in my book"

Jay Bilas, April 2020

This. Jay's a Dookie and a pal. Set expectations low, celebrate outperforming.

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 05, 2019, 08:33:08 AM
This. Jay's a Dookie and a pal. Set expectations low, celebrate outperforming.

Sure. It's a grand conspiracy.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

#7
Like anybody who has to predict for a living, Bilas misses plenty of predictions.

As TV analysts go, though, he is the best there is. He also says nice things about Marquette quite often, probably in part because of his relationship with Wojo, but he liked our program when Buzz was coach, too. He is not one of the ESPNers who supposedly "hates" MU.

I think 47 is a little low but not miles low. That puts us squarely on the bubble, and we'll have a pretty good idea in 5 weeks if that's where we belong.

Note that he ranked Davidson #15. That is probably a little high but I have said a few times that the Orlando people did us zero favors making us play them on Thanksgiving. They are a talented, well-coached, experienced team. I think that game is the key to our entire non-conference season (and perhaps our entire overall season), similar to how I felt about Louisville last year.

Other key non-con opponents ...

Bilas gives a little too much love to Purdue IMHO (#14). Wisconsin (34) and K-State (45) seem about right. USC, whom we almost surely will play if we beat Davidson, is two spots behind us at 49.
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Shooter McGavin

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 05, 2019, 07:27:21 AM
Eye dunno, seams 'bout wright, hey?

Agreed, we really don't know how good this team will be.  A forty ish projection to start the season seems reasonable.   We will know shortly though. The November schedule has many games where we can prove ourselves. Win the majority for those and we are a top 25 team the whole year. 

THRILLHO

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 05, 2019, 09:36:59 AM
Agreed, we really don't know how good this team will be.  A forty ish projection to start the season seems reasonable.   We will know shortly though. The November schedule has many games where we can prove ourselves. Win the majority for those and we are a top 25 team the whole year.

Maybe being buddies with wojo gave bilas some additional insight on jayce's prognosis.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Cheeks on November 05, 2019, 09:14:08 AM
Sure. It's a grand conspiracy.

Wow. If that's your definition of a grand conspiracy....

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: THRILLHO on November 05, 2019, 09:39:10 AM
Maybe being buddies with wojo gave bilas some additional insight on jayce's prognosis.

That thought creeped into the back of my mind as well.

Tha Hound

Even if Jayce is out for the entire year, he is not the difference between a top 25 team and a top 50 team. He just isn't.

cheebs09

Quote from: THRILLHO on November 05, 2019, 09:39:10 AM
Maybe being buddies with wojo gave bilas some additional insight on jayce's prognosis.

It sure didn't help him with Frohling. That was one of the reasons for all the hype. Bilas had an early season game of ours and spent some time saying Frohling would be a game changer.

Marcus92

"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

MU82

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 05, 2019, 11:04:07 AM
It sure didn't help him with Frohling. That was one of the reasons for all the hype. Bilas had an early season game of ours and spent some time saying Frohling would be a game changer.

Yep. Perhaps Bilas' most egregious bad call involving MU.

Even worse than him picking us to beat Morant State.
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Norm

Quote from: Marcus92 on November 05, 2019, 12:12:09 PM
Sports Illustrated has Marquette at #28.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/11/01/ncaa-basketball-rankings-every-team-duke-kentucky

And they rank Howard as the nation's third best player behind only Cole Anthony and Cassius Winston. Myles Powell ranks #4 on their list.

1SE

Quote from: tower912 on November 05, 2019, 06:22:30 AM
Finally.    Feistiness about being underrated.   And coming from a guy who wants Wojo fired.    Huzzah!   The whole board is sitting around the Delta House before Bluto goes on his rant.      It is game day.    Fire up!

Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about Wojo. But if we end the season at #47 (and likely miss the dance) it seems most people here would want him gone.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 05, 2019, 11:04:07 AM
It sure didn't help him with Frohling. That was one of the reasons for all the hype. Bilas had an early season game of ours and spent some time saying Frohling would be a game changer.

He also proclaimed Josh Gasser a can't miss NBA player. 

MU82

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 05, 2019, 02:03:02 PM
He also proclaimed Josh Gasser a can't miss NBA player.

Yessir.

As I said, I think he's the best college hoops analyst out there. But when you have to say the sheer number of things he has to say in a given year, he's gonna be wrong a ton.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

Quote from: MU82 on November 05, 2019, 03:18:08 PM
Yessir.

As I said, I think he's the best college hoops analyst out there. But when you have to say the sheer number of things he has to say in a given year, he's gonna be wrong a ton.

I think he used to be the best. Lately, he's been so focused on bashing the NCAA, it's become tough to listen to him. I think they deserve their fair share of criticism, but it's turning into Vitale talking about K or Knight in games they don't have a connection to.

Cheeks

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 05, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
I think he used to be the best. Lately, he's been so focused on bashing the NCAA, it's become tough to listen to him. I think they deserve their fair share of criticism, but it's turning into Vitale talking about K or Knight in games they don't have a connection to.

Yup
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 05, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
I think he used to be the best. Lately, he's been so focused on bashing the NCAA, it's become tough to listen to him. I think they deserve their fair share of criticism, but it's turning into Vitale talking about K or Knight in games they don't have a connection to.

It's nice to have a strong voice, one who is so widely respected, one who used to be a player and an assistant coach, take on an inept, monolithic, self-serving institution like the NCAA.

Vitale has been a caricature of himself for decades, so I don't think it's a very relevant comparison.

So while I respect your opinion, we will agree to disagree here, and I will say, "Bash away, Jay!"
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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