Palm on the Score

[Marquette4life]

Jerry was on the score this morning and someone asked him what we needed to do to get in and he said that we needed to do more than just beat depaul

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I think that is the safe answer, because MU is clearly in if they beat Nova.

But there are clearly avenues to a bid at 1-1. 

[Marquette4life]

I think that is the safe answer, because MU is clearly in if they beat Nova.

But there are clearly avenues to a bid at 1-1.

and these avenues are??? I mean sure if every single other bubble team loses first round

[Oldgym]

and these avenues are??? I mean sure if every single other bubble team loses first round

The "Bubble Watch 2018" thread has gamed this out six ways from Sunday.

[Tugg Speedman]

I think that is the safe answer, because MU is clearly in if they beat Nova.

But there are clearly avenues to a bid at 1-1.

Exactly ... I don't need an "expert" like Jerry Palm to tell us we are in if we beat Nova.  The real question is how do we get in with a 1-1 record in the BET?

[MU82]

Exactly ... I don't need an "expert" like Jerry Palm to tell us we are in if we beat Nova.  The real question is how do we get in with a 1-1 record in the BET?

Thoughts and prayers?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

and these avenues are??? I mean sure if every single other bubble team loses first round

It would come down to what the committee values most: RPI, SOS, quality wins (or the combination of those 3)

[MUfan12]

I tend to think they need to win 2.

But, if that happens, you're probably looking at a 10 seed and will be safely in.

[MU82]

We got this!

[mu03eng]

I tend to think they need to win 2.

But, if that happens, you're probably looking at a 10 seed and will be safely in.

If MU wins 2 we are a lock in. It would mean we'd have gone 7-3 in the last 10 games of the season including wins over Creighton, Seton Hall, and Nova (4 total) who are tournament teams.

We really need the PAC-12 and SEC to fall on their face this week though to feel comfortable if we go 1-1

[MU86NC]

Bracketogy has us as one of the last 4 in updated this morning...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

and these avenues are??? I mean sure if every single other bubble team loses first round

The main one is that bracketologists aren't the committee and with new criteria this season they are expected to have a historically inaccurate year. We assume we're right on the cutline now but the committee might see us as a 9 seed right now for all we know.  Of course that can go the other way too.

Right now we have better computer numbers then last season when we earned a 10 seed. It's crazy that we are possibly on the outside looking in right now. It's a very hard bubble this season

[GoldenDieners32]

Does any one know how accurate Palm is every year?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Does any one know how accurate Palm is every year?

One of the least.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

The main one is that bracketologists aren't the committee and with new criteria this season they are expected to have a historically inaccurate year. We assume we're right on the cutline now but the committee might see us as a 9 seed right now for all we know.  Of course that can go the other way too.

Right now we have better computer numbers then last season when we earned a 10 seed. It's crazy that we are possibly on the outside looking in right now. It's a very hard bubble this season

One thing worth mentioning is that there continues to be mentiond of "new criteria".  I am not singling you out TAMU, even national writers and bracketologists keep saying it.  But I really don't think there is actually new criteria, persay. 

John Fanta posted an interview with the committee head (Creighton's AD) on twitter this morning.  He reiterated (and has mentioned it publicly before) that the actual criteria has not changed at all for the committee...the Quadrants are just designed to give the general public a better idea of what the committee values....rather than everyone just using RPI without context. He also said multiple times that road wins are very important (as the quadrants also show).

The interview is worth finding and watching.     

[willie warrior]

I think that is the safe answer, because MU is clearly in if they beat Nova.

But there are clearly avenues to a bid at 1-1.

While I would like to agree with that "clearly in" causes one to pause. Nothing is clear when it comes to the Dance, right now, except maybe the top 16 teams and the automatic qualifiers.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

One thing worth mentioning is that there continues to be mentiond of "new criteria".  I am not singling you out TAMU, even national writers and bracketologists keep saying it.  But I really don't think there is actually new criteria, persay. 

John Fanta posted an interview with the committee head (Creighton's AD) on twitter this morning.  He reiterated (and has mentioned it publicly before) that the actual criteria has not changed at all for the committee...the Quadrants are just designed to give the general public a better idea of what the committee values....rather than everyone just using RPI without context. He also said multiple times that road wins are very important (as the quadrants also show).

The interview is worth finding and watching.     

That's not the only change. Supposedly other ratings systems are being emphasised in addition to RPI. Also,  they used the quadrants before but used to not take into account the locations of the games.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

That's not the only change. Supposedly other ratings systems are being emphasised in addition to RPI. Also,  they used the quadrants before but used to not take into account the locations of the games.

Hasn't that been the case over the last couple seasons?

[TallTitan34]

One thing worth mentioning is that there continues to be mentiond of "new criteria".  I am not singling you out TAMU, even national writers and bracketologists keep saying it.  But I really don't think there is actually new criteria, persay. 

John Fanta posted an interview with the committee head (Creighton's AD) on twitter this morning.  He reiterated (and has mentioned it publicly before) that the actual criteria has not changed at all for the committee...the Quadrants are just designed to give the general public a better idea of what the committee values....rather than everyone just using RPI without context. He also said multiple times that road wins are very important (as the quadrants also show).

The interview is worth finding and watching.     

I'm hoping having Creighton's AD as committee head also gives us an additional boost.  If Marquette makes it, his conference and his school makes more $$$$.

[mu03eng]

I'm hoping having Creighton's AD as committee head also gives us an additional boost.  If Marquette makes it, his conference and his school makes more $$$$.

He's not in the room when his team or conference is discussed so theoretically it will have no impact.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

He's not in the room when his team or conference is discussed so theoretically it will have no impact.

Not entirely true.  Team? Yes, he is out of room.  Conference? No, he is in the room.  But can only answer fact based questions and not input opinion.

He directly addressed this in the interview I was referring to.

[BrewCity83]

Even so, he could potentially exert a negative influence towards other non-Big East teams that are on the bubble competing for our bid.

[Benny B]

Not entirely true.  Team? Yes, he is out of room.  Conference? No, he is in the room.  But can only answer fact based questions and not input opinion.

He directly addressed this in the interview I was referring to.

Have not looked at the committee makeup, but presuming he is the official representative for the BEconference, this is correct.

In theory, if Creighton and Nova's AD's were both on the committee, with the former assigned to the BE and the latter assigned to the SWAC, I believe Nova's AD would be able to editorialize in BE teams if called to do so.  That said, I'm under the impression that a conference cannot have two people on the committee unless, of course, by way of interim conference realignment.

[TallTitan34]

Can't hurt.  Could help.

I'll take any advantage we can get at this point.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Staurday could have really helped us, texas, syracuse, etc all losing n going to 7-11 would have effectively taken them out of the discussion.
I dont expect it to be considered because i am unaware of a metric, but i whole heartedly belive it us more difficult to go 9-9 when you play every team twice tgat it is to go 9-9 when u play 75% of ur conference schedule once.