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muwarrior69

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super/2017/01/31/earl-campbell-super-bowl-li-51-houston-oilers-texas-running-back-pain-gain-pro-football-hall-of-fame/97258738/

He has a point as the players are more entertainers than athletes today. That said the NFL has a concussion problem that prevents the game from being played the way it was meant to be played.

Your thoughts.

GGGG


tower912

I, too, walked 5 miles barefoot in the snow uphill both ways to school.    Fire was hotter.    Women were hotter.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2017, 01:59:01 PM
I, too, walked 5 miles barefoot in the snow uphill both ways to school.    Fire was hotter.    Women were hotter.   

1920s
The 1920s marked the first time that helmets were widely used in the sport of football. These helmets were made of leather and had some padding on the inside, but the padding was insufficient and provided little protection.
Football helmet - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_helmet

I guess the players prior to the twenties could probably make the same criticism of Earl's generation and they just might have a point.

tower912

Helmets made it commonplace to tackle leading with the head or use the head as a weapon.  Darryl Stingley probably wishes he played today.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MUBurrow

Trying to piece this

QuoteHe said he has had both knees replaced and had four back surgeries and battled substance abuse since his playing career ended three decades ago..."I'd give anything to be able to hit a 9-iron," added Campbell, whose physical problems prevent him from playing golf.

and this

QuoteShaking his head at the excuses he hears from contemporary NFL players, Campbell said, "I can't play because I've got a hangnail on my toe. I can't play because I didn't get a pedicure this week. I don't play because my head hurt.

and this

QuoteAnother priority is developing a non-profit venture called Project Rose, which will focus on research related to spine and joint issues that would benefit people such as Campbell.

into a cohesive published narrative about the current state of football doesn't reflect particularly well on anybody

CTWarrior

Earl was phenomenal and as tough a guy as you ever saw on the football field, but he has had a physically miserable, painful existence since he stopped playing football, with all kinds of surgeries and addictions spawned from painkillers, etc.

You'd think he'd understand why the game has had to move in a less physical direction.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

brandx

Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 31, 2017, 01:57:35 PM
Players were always paid to entertain.

As a secondary reason.

First, players were paid to make money for owners. That is always reason #1.

HouWarrior

Earl was the hardest hitting RB I ever saw. In his day he wore huge shoulder pads, and big thigh pads (over his already huge, powerful upper legs) added to the punch in his running. The Luv Ya Blue Monday night game against the Dolphins remains the best single game RB performance I ever saw in person.
He threw every ounce of his body into the game and has had a lifetime of issues because of the sacrifice.
For those who never saw him, here is a sample of his play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUWLVE-UvqE
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: MUBurrow on January 31, 2017, 02:41:16 PM
Trying to piece this

and this

and this

into a cohesive published narrative about the current state of football doesn't reflect particularly well on anybody

There is some irony to a former player complaining about how soft current players are when it comes to injuries as he gimps around as a guy who could barely walk in his mid-40s.

Don't get me wrong, Earl Campbell is a badass, but he's paying the price. Players know more now and don't want to be gimpy former badasses after football.


tower912

Which, in a way, circles back to the whole debate about the players who chose to not play in bowl games with their teams.    The retired football player, barely able to walk, 4 back surgeries, beating a painkiller addiction, unable to golf.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Quote from: brandx on January 31, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
As a secondary reason.

First, players were paid to make money for owners. That is always reason #1.

Not really. The owners make money of them because the public finds them entertaining. It's one in the same.

dgies9156

Quote from: brandx on January 31, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
As a secondary reason.

First, players were paid to make money for owners. That is always reason #1.

Damn straight. Welcome to Capitalism 101!

Are you a bizader :-) ?

GGGG

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 01, 2017, 08:35:45 AM
There is some irony to a former player complaining about how soft current players are when it comes to injuries as he gimps around as a guy who could barely walk in his mid-40s.

Don't get me wrong, Earl Campbell is a badass, but he's paying the price. Players know more now and don't want to be gimpy former badasses after football.


This irony has everything to do with pride.

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