Bravo for Wilson

[Pakuni]

The vast majority of student athletes would take additional money for playing sports but aren't agitating for it. The stars are the one's that are agitating for it because they are undervalued from a market standpoint, however the value they have "taken" from them is then distributed amongst the overvalued mass of student athletes.

It was Kain Kolter and the Northwestern football team that made the unionization bid.
Not many stars in that group.

[forgetful]

The equivalent would be telling an MU professor, "We don't pay much but there's an outside chance you'll be the President at Harvard someday.  So we factored that into your benefits package."  Or telling a local TV anchor they might get a network job at ABC because the station is an ABC affiliate.  Sure the experience could be the start of a long path to a successful career, but I think its absurd to consider "chance" to be "compensation".

Actually, that is essentially the case for professors.  Part of the "justification" for a lower salary is that we retain the option to do outside consulting up to 20% of our day.  The argument is that the University provides the exposure to allow a professor to access these outside consulting opportunities that would not be available otherwise. 

The other argument for the low salaries is they provide the infrastructure in support for one to make a name for themselves; which allows both consulting opportunities and the possibility to go elsewhere for higher salaries (eventually; e.g. Dean's/Presidents/Better Universities). 

Your analogies actually support the position opposite the one you are trying to make.

Now, we also have to work 60+ hours a week, so we really don't have time for the consulting part, but in theory it is there, and they use it as a justification for low pay.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

It was Kain Kolter and the Northwestern football team that made the unionization bid.
Not many stars in that group.

Hey now, dont be dissing star QB Trevor Siemian. That was actually a decent team. Van Hoose, Siemian, Kolter, Campbell, Vitale and Venric Mark (if he was still there at that point)

[HouWarrior]

Foot ball and BB players at UT are either Strong or Smart; none are rich:

http://www.chron.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Why-A-Lot-Of-Good-College-Football-Teams-Are-5807651.php

[Lennys Tap]

It was Kain Kolter and the Northwestern football team that made the unionization bid.
Not many stars in that group.

Agree Pakuni. Unions would benefit the scrubs in the "star" sports more than anyone (I think). If I'm reading this correctly, all scholarship players in revenue sports would receive equal stipends, star or bench warmer.

[GooooMarquette]

Sorry if I missed it, but didn't see this earlier in the thread:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2016/10/19/marquette-duane-wilson-ncaa-protest-nigel-hayes-money/92411676/

[2012 Warrior]

Last paragraph of that USA today article is odd.  How did this all the sudden go from being about NCAA not allowing fair treatment of student-athletes to racism?

[WarriorInNYC]

Foot ball and BB players at UT are either Strong or Smart; none are rich:

http://www.chron.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Why-A-Lot-Of-Good-College-Football-Teams-Are-5807651.php

The problem with this "article" is its very short-sighted and will lead most readers to think players are getting shafted.

They use the NFL's collective bargaining agreement to determine the players receive 47% of all revenue.  Yet all revenue includes contributions from donors.  Additionally, it forgets the concept that most of the other athletic programs are funded via revenues that are brought in via football (mainly) and basketball.

[Brewtown Andy]

Last paragraph of that USA today article is odd.  How did this all the sudden go from being about NCAA not allowing fair treatment of student-athletes to racism?

Scott Gleeson asked Nigel why he was doing what he was doing and that was the answer.