Big East Big Ten Challenge

[Tugg Speedman]

What was the final result?

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

4-4 tie

[naginiF]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavitt_Tipoff_Games
game by game

[Tugg Speedman]

Thank you

The perfect outcome for the organizers.

[MUFlutieEffect]

Love the idea of naming this thing after Gavitt, but I think it'd be infinitely better for the Big East if it was advertised as the "Big East-Big Ten Challenge," as your title suggests.  While most on this board are confident in the BEast brand, I'd argue we have a lot of work to do to assure the league is considered alongside the ACC, Big Ten, et al., and an annual series like this would go a long way towards that goal.  I'd guess the casual fan won't even realize that the "Gavitt Tipoff Games" are Big East-Big Ten matchups...

[4everwarriors]

Heard T-Cube's fellas couldn't execute for him again, hey?

[MUMountin]

Love the idea of naming this thing after Gavitt, but I think it'd be infinitely better for the Big East if it was advertised as the "Big East-Big Ten Challenge," as your title suggests.  While most on this board are confident in the BEast brand, I'd argue we have a lot of work to do to assure the league is considered alongside the ACC, Big Ten, et al., and an annual series like this would go a long way towards that goal.  I'd guess the casual fan won't even realize that the "Gavitt Tipoff Games" are Big East-Big Ten matchups...

Have to agree with this--sounds more like a low-level holiday tournament than a inter-conference rivalry series.

[forgetful]

Love the idea of naming this thing after Gavitt, but I think it'd be infinitely better for the Big East if it was advertised as the "Big East-Big Ten Challenge," as your title suggests.  While most on this board are confident in the BEast brand, I'd argue we have a lot of work to do to assure the league is considered alongside the ACC, Big Ten, et al., and an annual series like this would go a long way towards that goal.  I'd guess the casual fan won't even realize that the "Gavitt Tipoff Games" are Big East-Big Ten matchups...

How about the Big East-Big Ten Gavitt Tipoff Classic?

[g0lden3agle]

Big Ten won the aggregate, 569-553

[Coleman]

How about the Big East-Big Ten Gavitt Tipoff Classic?

That would work. I agree the conference names should be in the title.

[naginiF]

I just assumed that they were trying to make the games sound more tournament like, but when you point out the branding opportunity it's clearly a better move to get the name in there.

[GGGG]

Love the idea of naming this thing after Gavitt, but I think it'd be infinitely better for the Big East if it was advertised as the "Big East-Big Ten Challenge," as your title suggests.  While most on this board are confident in the BEast brand, I'd argue we have a lot of work to do to assure the league is considered alongside the ACC, Big Ten, et al., and an annual series like this would go a long way towards that goal.  I'd guess the casual fan won't even realize that the "Gavitt Tipoff Games" are Big East-Big Ten matchups...

No one who matters thinks the BE is a mid-major.  I wouldn't worry about the casual fan.

[WarriorInNYC]

4-4 tie

Big Ten won the aggregate, 569-553

These are both inaccurate.  The Big East won the series 4-3 and the aggregate 492-480.  I've completely blocked one of those games out from my memory.

[MUFlutieEffect]

No one who matters thinks the BE is a mid-major.  I wouldn't worry about the casual fan.

I completely disagree...

In the long run, the casual fans not only matter - it's the casual fans who DETERMINE the value of a conference.  When you're talking decades (not individual seasons) media powerhouses (re: ESPN) decide who is worth covering and who isn't, and they're gonna cover whoever the casual fans will tune in to watch.

[GGGG]

I completely disagree...

In the long run, the casual fans not only matter - it's the casual fans who DETERMINE the value of a conference.  When you're talking decades (not individual seasons) media powerhouses (re: ESPN) decide who is worth covering and who isn't, and they're gonna cover whoever the casual fans will tune in to watch.

You have it backwards. Keep winning and the casual fan will pay attention. As much as any fan pays attention to college basketball these days.

[MUFlutieEffect]

You have it backwards. Keep winning and the casual fan will pay attention. As much as any fan pays attention to college basketball these days.

The casual fan is the guy who flips on the TV and watches whatever is on ESPN, not the guy who searches through his TV's guide to find Channel #416 because he heard that some small Catholic school he's never heard of is ranked in the Top 25.

[g0lden3agle]

The casual fan is the guy who flips on the TV and watches whatever is on ESPN, not the guy who searches through his TV's guide to find Channel #416 because he heard that some small Catholic school he's never heard of is ranked in the Top 25.

So the casual fan flips on whatever is on ESPN, but then how does the casual fan also drive what is on ESPN as you claim? Wouldn't it be ESPN's responsibility to land as good a product as possible to keep the casual fan tuned to their channel?

[SaveOD238]

4-4 tie

Of course, it doesn't count, but on the last day of the challenge Georgetown beat Wisconsin in a separate non conference game.  Throw in that game and we won

[MUFlutieEffect]

So the casual fan flips on whatever is on ESPN, but then how does the casual fan also drive what is on ESPN as you claim? Wouldn't it be ESPN's responsibility to land as good a product as possible to keep the casual fan tuned to their channel?

I'm fairly confident that ESPN feels very little (if any) responsibility to function as an objective news source covering the "best teams."  If that were the case, we'd see a lot more Gonzaga and a lot less low-tier ACC.

ESPN goes for brand names - namely, conference brands.  Circling back, the name "Big East-Big Ten Challenge" would further solidify the Big East brand in the long-run.