Oscars

[mu03eng]

Not just that it wasn't serious or angsty. I thought the video journal was a huge crutch, both from a screenwriting and acting perspective. Why do you have to tell me everything you're doing? Just act. Tom Hanks didn't leave a journal of every thought he had in Castaway.

It wasn't a terrible movie. I enjoyed it. I just wasn't that impressed.

Not that it really matters but the video journal was a big part of the book (argument could be made it's a crutch there too), so for me porting it over to the movie made all the sense in the world. Plus I think it's "real world", if I was stuck on Mars by myself I would definitely keep a Vlog of what I'm doing in case I die, maybe someone can profit from it.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Yea, I don't know if prestige has anything to do with the movies picked. I think this is something like the 13th year in a row where I haven't seen the best picture winner. Last one was LOTR.

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Yea, I don't know if prestige has anything to do with the movies picked. I think this is something like the 13th year in a row where I haven't seen the best picture winner. Last one was LOTR.

You've missed a lot of good movies then.

[brandx]

Did something else again this year
If diversity is so important to some why have black awards? Jamie Fox wss right on to dis Will Smith. To win you have to have movies and roles with a broad appeal .

Cuz we want to give them everything for free while keeping the white man down.

Seriously, black awards shows were started because blacks were ignored on other awards shows. Blacks were not given good parts - they were the pimps, hookers, and thugs, or token friend.

And, to this day, when a black is given a part in movies like Star Wars, Bond, or Hunger Games, there is an outcry from many.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Cuz we want to give them everything for free while keeping the white man down.

Seriously, black awards shows were started because blacks were ignored on other awards shows. Blacks were not given good parts - they were the pimps, hookers, and thugs, or token friend.

And, to this day, when a black is given a part in movies like Star Wars, Bond, or Hunger Games, there is an outcry from many.

  Never heard any outcry because a black was given a part in a movie. As for not being given good parts, tell that to Denzel, Sidney Poitier, Lou Gossett , Tina( had to include a Mad Max reference), Halle Berry among others. There are a lot of people competing for roles out here and while Hollywood is incestuous I don't think
there is a conscious effort to exclude people. Actually, for all their earth consciousness and bleeding hearts the Hollywood folk are greedy, uncaring selfish and self-centered. It is the coldest business to be in despite constantly making movies about corrupt corporations which is ironic.people are commodities here

[brandx]

  Never heard any outcry because a black was given a part in a movie.

Easy enough to google. tons of articles.

[mr.MUskie]

Saw the title of this thread, thought it was about burgers.

[jesmu84]

I haven't seen too many of the movies, so I'm curious about one example I heard people complaining about.  Some complained that Stallone had no business getting a nomination, but that Jordan certainly would have been a deserving nominee.  Is that true?  If so, that one is on the Academy, and not the filmmakers.

I'm not trying to disagree with your overall point, and I do agree.  It would be just one example.

Stallone's nomination almost seemed more like a lifetime achievement sort of thing. I thought he was more deserving of a nom for Rocky Balboa. Disagree that Michael b Jordan deserved a nom.

I actually believed the supporting actors were better and a more difficult selection than actor.

Also, I didn't think that was Leo's best acting job. Nor do I think that he acted better than fassbender or Cranston this year. A harder job-site, yes. But not pure acting.

Also, how does mad Max win all those other awards (that a director has their hands in), but gets snubbed for best director? Again, I get the difficulty of shooting revenant, but the effort it took to bring all the elements together of fury road were amazing. And that's coming from a guy who didn't expect any noms for it when I saw it.

[tower912]

Not a movie, but the reaction when a London theater cast a black Hermoine Granger for the new Harry Potter-based play was appalling.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Dismal ratings....again.


The holier than thou Hollywood elite falls on their wieners again, heeyna?

[Benny B]

Not a movie, but the reaction when a London theater cast a black Hermoine Granger for the new Harry Potter-based play was appalling.

Hollywood (the industry) has decided it's in the business of making movies while Hollywood (the actors) have decided they are in the business of social activism.  If the audience doesn't want to see a black Hermoine Granger, is that the fault of Hollywood (the industry) or the audience?

Social change doesn't happen simply by telling people what to say/think/believe... that may work at the legal level to provide some semblance of change, but if you want to strike down ignorance and change people's actions/behavior, you have to demonstrate the merits and inspire people to make the right choice.  Being adversarial will only work to create more adversaries.

Nevertheless, if Hollywood (the actors) want to call out their employer (the industry) for systemic racism, then the best way for them to get the message across would be to dispense with the lectures and simply stop taking parts in films that don't promote racial diversity/inclusion.  Until then, they're nothing but hypocritical, do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do millionaires.

[MU82]

Dismal ratings....again.


The holier than thou Hollywood elite falls on their wieners again, heeyna?

Well ... I guess that's the last time they use a black host then!

[muwarrior69]

I did not watch either. It has become rather boring watching a litany of thanks mom, dad, kids, co-star etc. Having said that, the Academy was spot on with Spotlight as best picture.

Unfortunately, it seems to never end.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/01/pa-bishops-hid-sex-abuse-hundreds-children-grand-jury-finds.html?intcmp=hplnws 

[MU82]

My favorite movie this past year was Room. Two amazing individual performances and a great story well told.

Otherwise, my preference in order of nominated flicks I saw: Revenant,  Spotlight, Big Short, Martian, Mad Max.

Didn't see Brooklyn or Bridge of Spies.

I did not like Mad Max at all. My son loved it, though, and he usually has a good eye. Obviously millions of others liked it, too.

Hateful Eight was a movie that wasn't nominated that I liked a lot -- but I am kind of warped and I've liked a lot of Tarantino flicks.

[Lennys Tap]

Hollywood (the industry) has decided it's in the business of making movies while Hollywood (the actors) have decided they are in the business of social activism.  If the audience doesn't want to see a black Hermoine Granger, is that the fault of Hollywood (the industry) or the audience?

Social change doesn't happen simply by telling people what to say/think/believe... that may work at the legal level to provide some semblance of change, but if you want to strike down ignorance and change people's actions/behavior, you have to demonstrate the merits and inspire people to make the right choice.  Being adversarial will only work to create more adversaries.

Nevertheless, if Hollywood (the actors) want to call out their employer (the industry) for systemic racism, then the best way for them to get the message across would be to dispense with the lectures and simply stop taking parts in films that don't promote racial diversity/inclusion.  Until then, they're nothing but hypocritical, do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do millionaires.

Nailed it, Benny.

[jficke13]

Not that it really matters but the video journal was a big part of the book (argument could be made it's a crutch there too), so for me porting it over to the movie made all the sense in the world. Plus I think it's "real world", if I was stuck on Mars by myself I would definitely keep a Vlog of what I'm doing in case I die, maybe someone can profit from it.

It's a framing device. It's not really a crutch, just a conscious decision for how you want to tell the story as an author.