Post-game thoughts

[Groin_pull]

Wow. Just wow. As I mentioned in the game thread, I'm stunned that MU has fallen so far, so fast. A few thoughts:

- Have never seen a team miss more bunnies. This goes back to the Crean era. Unreal.

- Frustrating to see MU always ride this yearly roller coaster. No balance in classes. No consistency. It's doubly frustrating because UW just rolls along every year. Classes are always balanced. None of this "who will transfer?" crap. Minimum drama. Always the right mix of size and speed. Always well coached and extremely smart. Tough to acknowledge, but it's so clear. Yes, I'm a little jealous right now.

- I hope all the incoming recruits have been too busy to watch these games on TV.

 

[BCHoopster]

Wow. Just wow. As I mentioned in the game thread, I'm stunned that MU has fallen so far, so fast. A few thoughts:

- Have never seen a team miss more bunnies. This goes back to the Crean era. Unreal.

- Frustrating to see MU always ride this yearly roller coaster. No balance in classes. No consistency. It's doubly frustrating because UW just rolls along every year. Classes are always balanced. None of this "who will transfer?" crap. Minimum drama. Always the right mix of size and speed. Always well coached and extremely smart. Tough to acknowledge, but it's so clear. Yes, I'm a little jealous right now.

- I hope all the incoming recruits have been too busy to watch these games on TV.

 

There is a reason Bo has won so many games, he is truly a great coach and recruiter.  Bo looks for players with a little meat on them, not sure Buzz did.  Most of the kids are skinny, really
skinny.  Look at JJJ vs. Nigel Hayes, both playing small forward, an absolute mismatch.  I can see why Memphis did not recruit him hard, he really is not very good.  Not sure why Scout
system had him so high in the rankings.  Reminds of Brian Butch being a McDonalds All-American, redshirted as a freshman, some kids just do not get it going to the next level.  Those are 2
right there.

[brandx]

There is a reason Bo has won so many games, he is truly a great coach and recruiter.  Bo looks for players with a little meat on them, not sure Buzz did.  Most of the kids are skinny, really
skinny.  Look at JJJ vs. Nigel Hayes, both playing small forward, an absolute mismatch.  I can see why Memphis did not recruit him hard, he really is not very good.  Not sure why Scout
system had him so high in the rankings.  Reminds of Brian Butch being a McDonalds All-American, redshirted as a freshman, some kids just do not get it going to the next level.  Those are 2
right there.

The difference is that Bo recruits for his system. Wojo is coaching someone else's recruits.

I expect things will be quite different within 2 years when the classes have balanced and he gets his kind of guys. We see that already with Heldt and Ellenson. Will be nice to have 3 6'9"+ guys next year. Gives the coach a lot more flexibility.

[PGsHeroes32]

Why do you keep bringing up this Wisconsin Bs.

This is a one time thing you clown because we lost our coach.

You act like the program is constantly in disarray. How many years did we make the tourney in a row?

[Blackhat]

We have more issues than size.   Tonight should have proven that to you.   Wojo and staff need to accelerate/be better at teaching team defense.   Proper help technique.   We need more of a pack line philosophy until these guys learn and become better on-ball defenders.  If Wojo can't adapt and stays with "Duke style" only we will continue to suck and not because of size.   We have talent, make no mistake.

[Groin_pull]

Why do you keep bringing up this Wisconsin Bs.

This is a one time thing you clown because we lost our coach.

You act like the program is constantly in disarray. How many years did we make the tourney in a row?

I was expressing my opinion, as$hole. Don't like it? Move along.

[PGsHeroes32]

I was expressing my opinion, as$hole. Don't like it? Move along.

Maybe you should learn what an opinion is.

Stating that we are constantly having stability issues isn't an opinion if it can be proven wrong.

You deprived of a proper education?

[jesmu84]

Wow. Just wow. As I mentioned in the game thread, I'm stunned that MU has fallen so far, so fast. A few thoughts:

- Have never seen a team miss more bunnies. This goes back to the Crean era. Unreal.

- Frustrating to see MU always ride this yearly roller coaster. No balance in classes. No consistency. It's doubly frustrating because UW just rolls along every year. Classes are always balanced. None of this "who will transfer?" crap. Minimum drama. Always the right mix of size and speed. Always well coached and extremely smart. Tough to acknowledge, but it's so clear. Yes, I'm a little jealous right now.

- I hope all the incoming recruits have been too busy to watch these games on TV.

 

Are you ignoring, or do you really not know about Uthoff, the one kid who decided he didn't like basketball anymore, etc?

[Groin_pull]

Maybe you should learn what an opinion is.

Stating that we are constantly having stability issues isn't an opinion if it can be proven wrong.

You deprived of a proper education?

You're right. No head coaching changes at MU. No assistant coach revolving door at MU. No transfers at MU. No players being run off the team at MU. No unbalanced classes at MU. Yup, just years of smooth sailing at MU.

Feel free to pull your head out of your as$.

[PGsHeroes32]

You're right. No head coaching changes at MU. No assistant coach revolving door at MU. No transfers at MU. No players being run off the team at MU. No unbalanced classes at MU. Yup, just years of smooth sailing at MU.

Feel free to pull your head out of your as$.

Again, since clearly you lack a functioning brain.

You said we are always a roller coaster with inconsistency. We don't have size and skill. We have bad class sizes unlike Wisco. Yet, as mentioned Wisco has had transfers. Like Wisco we made the tournament for years consecutively. We made sweet 16s and elite 8s.

In the old BE we were the only team to make the tourney every year when joining and the only team to win at least 9 games.

Face it. It was an idiotic statement. That wasn't even an "opinion" as you claimed.

1 rough between two seasons isn't inconsistency. It's having to rebuild for a change.

Good lord idk how someone can be this daft.

[BallBoy]

Again, since clearly you lack a functioning brain.

You said we are always a roller coaster with inconsistency. We don't have size and skill. We have bad class sizes unlike Wisco. Yet, as mentioned Wisco has had transfers. Like Wisco we made the tournament for years consecutively. We made sweet 16s and elite 8s.

In the old BE we were the only team to make the tourney every year when joining and the only team to win at least 9 games.

Face it. It was an idiotic statement. That wasn't even an "opinion" as you claimed.

1 rough between two seasons isn't inconsistency. It's having to rebuild for a change.

Good lord idk how someone can be this daft.

I think what he is trying to say is that in comparison MU has had more transfer than WI. This higher transfer rate has led to
1.  A greater imbalance in class sizes
2.  More rebuilding years comparatively
3.  Less margin for error in recruiting

Secondly, MU has had more head  coaches in the last 15 years than WI has had. This has lead to:
1.  Different approaches to the game
2.  Different types of recruits
3.  More defection of players as their guy left

This doesn't mean that WI hasn't had transfers or MU hasn't had success just not the sustain success as we have had two two year rebuilds.

I think the above is all factually accurate yet has some opinion that if MU had the same level of consistencies it would improve our current situation or take us to that next level. 

[PGsHeroes32]

I think what he is trying to say is that in comparison MU has had more transfer than WI. This higher transfer rate has led to
1.  A greater imbalance in class sizes
2.  More rebuilding years comparatively
3.  Less margin for error in recruiting

Secondly, MU has had more head  coaches in the last 15 years than WI has had. This has lead to:
1.  Different approaches to the game
2.  Different types of recruits
3.  More defection of players as their guy left

This doesn't mean that WI hasn't had transfers or MU hasn't had success just not the sustain success as we have had two two year rebuilds.

I think the above is all factually accurate yet has some opinion that if MU had the same level of consistencies it would improve our current situation or take us to that next level. 

But the fact of the matter is..our approach of "buzz cutting" or how ever you want to refer to it has WORKED for us. We have consistently made the tournament for years. We had great success under both of our last two coaches and Buzz never had a dry spell til his final year. And that transition left it to Wojo by default. So having a down spell one time isn't an inconsistency by definition.

Wisconsin pre Bo was about as big of a mess of a program as you can have they were never regarded as anything. MU has been had many era's of good bball.

Sorry, it's just an illogical post he keeps repeating because of 1 recent rebuilding effort.

[BallBoy]

But the fact of the matter is..our approach of "buzz cutting" or how ever you want to refer to it has WORKED for us. We have consistently made the tournament for years. We had great success under both of our last two coaches and Buzz never had a dry spell til his final year. And that transition left it to Wojo by default. So having a down spell one time isn't an inconsistency by definition.

Wisconsin pre Bo was about as big of a mess of a program as you can have they were never regarded as anything. MU has been had many era's of good bball.

Sorry, it's just an illogical post he keeps repeating because of 1 recent rebuilding effort.

Except Wisconsin went to the Final Four with Bennett prior to Bo.

I don't disagree that our approach worked or anything would have changed if we went the Wisconsin route.  Sometimes things don't work out between player and school. 

[Class71]

We have more issues than size.   Tonight should have proven that to you.   Wojo and staff need to accelerate/be better at teaching team defense.   Proper help technique.   We need more of a pack line philosophy until these guys learn and become better on-ball defenders.  If Wojo can't adapt and stays with "Duke style" only we will continue to suck and not because of size.   We have talent, make no mistake.

Some talent, yes. Slow learners and buying into what they need to learn? Forget about it. Very immature mentally, street ball lives. What does it take for this group to play like a team? I have no clue.

[Sharpie]

You're right. No head coaching changes at MU. No assistant coach revolving door at MU. No transfers at MU. No players being run off the team at MU. No unbalanced classes at MU. Yup, just years of smooth sailing at MU.

Feel free to pull your head out of your as$.

By all means, no one is stopping you to go and root for the Badgers. Not sure you'll be missed.

[RushmoreAcademy]

Liked Wojos comments. Young guys learning to play.
That said, I hope Luke is a beast because we are going to need it. Huge lack of boxing out on rebounds and eventually we are gonna have to pull the trigger and hit some shots because we aren't going to be able to back Anderson and Taylor into the post like that against anyone decent. Go Warriors.

[Dr. Blackheart]

More of the same in the first half as NJIT shot 61% and 43% from three, and out rebounded MU 17-14. In the second half, it was 24% and 12%. That is what we are talking with adjustments and effort.

With one day to prepare, and on a day I think was a dead practice day with the NCAA, I wasn't expecting much. What we saw was a determined team and a coach willing to change players and the base defense in the 2nd.

Ugly, but there were episodes of gelling. Du is a keeper...grows every game. Juan was looking to be that guy. Burton needs Fischer in there to create his space...really struggling.  He played two minutes in 2H.

[Groin_pull]

By all means, no one is stopping you to go and root for the Badgers. Not sure you'll be missed.

Acknowledging what UW has accomplished is "rooting" for them?

Guess you skipped a few classes along the way, huh?

[kmwtrucks]

Larger state Schools Are going to tend to have less turnover if they are recruiting in state.  IE if a Kid has been a fan of a team for X # of years you are more inclined to stay through tough times.  We are recruiting more in state Kids so that will help, but its not the same as having you in Badger football gear every SAT from when you were a baby compared to be coming a fan when you are 15.  IMO.  College Football SAT can be a family Ritual in some homes.  Not quite the same for Basketball.   I'm not from WISC but have lots of family from Ohio and you do not need to goto the State school to become a big College football fan you just need to be from the state.   My brother Went to Ball State and Loyola But has been to 2 OSU rose bowls and goes to at least one game a year.  His kids were born and raised buckeye fans.  If one ended up there for a sport It would take more then a lack of playing time in the 1st couple years to get them to leave.   Both my parents went to MU and I can only think of one time I watched a MU game with them growing up.  A early 80's game Vs depaul.