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mu-rara

Quote from: keefe on July 17, 2014, 02:17:11 PM
Well, since one of those applies to me I am reporting you to the Scoop Moderators!

Keefe, you are arguing common sense against the personal politics of individuals.  Good Luck convincing the others to view this issue with common sense.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: mu-rara on July 17, 2014, 03:25:59 PM
Keefe, you are arguing common sense against the personal politics of individuals.  Good Luck convincing the others to view this issue with common sense.

That's not true at all.

Common sense:

It's okay to talk about dogs in the office. It's not ok to call a female coworker a dog.

Easy.

Dogs is not a bad word, it's how it's applied.


ATWizJr

Quote from: Henry Sugar on July 17, 2014, 09:51:06 AM
The hyperbole is strong with your response.

Anyone watching the show "Tyrant" these days? I'm really enjoying it, but of course that means I also support middle eastern dictators. And tyrants in general.


I think the point is that you can watch or use the word tyrant any way you want to as long as you don't criticize someone else who uses it similarly.

mu-rara

Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on July 17, 2014, 03:34:11 PM
That's not true at all.

Common sense:

It's okay to talk about dogs in the office. It's not ok to call a female coworker a dog.

Easy.

Dogs is not a bad word, it's how it's applied.


Equating calling a female coworker a dog vs "girls night out"?   Really?  

Do we really need to live under the tyranny of the aggrieved?

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: mu-rara on July 17, 2014, 03:42:19 PM
  Equating calling a female coworker a dog vs "girls night out"?   Really?  

Do we really need to live under the tyranny of the aggrieved?

You're right!

But, that's not the point Keefe is trying to make.

Quote from: keefe on July 17, 2014, 09:28:03 AM
Precisely. And yet you miss the point. This South abused his authority and damaged a colleague's reputation and career for using the same word he has on his personal website. McAdams' logic is spot on in this case. Either you understand it that or not.

Quote from: keefe on July 17, 2014, 01:12:10 PM
If the use of the term girl to describe a grown female is offensive then it is consistently so. Applying it to a colleague does not make it more offensive. Nor does its use in any other application make it less so.

The application of the word matters. That's what several of us are trying to say.

I don't find "girls" offensive in the least, and I think this whole thing is stupid. But, that doesn't mean South is a hypocrite because he's used the word "girls" before.

Henry Sugar

Quote from: ATWizJr on July 17, 2014, 03:40:14 PM
I think the point is that you can watch or use the word tyrant any way you want to as long as you don't criticize someone else who uses it similarly.

James South is not a hypocrite because he likes an episode of Xena that has the word "girls" in its title. McAdams should be smarter than that.

We should really get back to the fundamental issue here. Why does South have a list of top five Xena episodes?
A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Henry Sugar on July 17, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
James South is not a hypocrite because he likes an episode of Xena that has the word "girls" in its title. McAdams should be smarter than that.

We should really get back to the fundamental issue here. Why does South have a list of top five Xena episodes?

Lucy Lawless, son.

keefe

Quote from: Henry Sugar on July 17, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
James South is not a hypocrite because he likes an episode of Xena that has the word "girls" in its title. McAdams should be smarter than that.

We should really get back to the fundamental issue here. Why does South have a list of top five Xena episodes?

That. Plus, his favorite album is Colours by Claudine Longet?? And he has a listing of the best of Burt Bacharach? Obviously his lack of judgment extends to his taste in entertainment options.


Death on call

mu-rara

Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on July 17, 2014, 04:04:10 PM
Lucy Lawless, son.

I agree with you on Lucy Lawless.  Aren't we offending someone?  Women as objects and all that?

Henry Sugar

Quote from: keefe on July 17, 2014, 04:10:04 PM
That. Plus, his favorite album is Colours by Claudine Longet?? And he has a listing of the best of Burt Bacharach? Obviously his lack of judgment extends to his taste in entertainment options.

This person is a terrible human being.
A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

keefe

Quote from: Henry Sugar on July 17, 2014, 04:55:46 PM
This person is a terrible human being.

I agree. He should be forced to watch Andrew Dice Clay routines for one month in solitary.


Death on call

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