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Author Topic: Why the Super Bowl Won't Ever Be in Green Bay...  (Read 2159 times)

Benny B

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Why the Super Bowl Won't Ever Be in Green Bay...
« on: April 02, 2014, 04:33:16 PM »
Although discussed elsewhere in months past, this deserves to be in a different thread... might want to bookmark because the concept of Green Bay hosting the Super Bowl has and will keep coming up, and we really need some hard stats on this to put it to bed for good.

Our northerly neighbors to the west are putting in a bid for the 2018 Super Bowl at the Hubert H Humphrey MetroStadium in 2018.  The bid calls for 19,000 high-quality, full-service rooms within 60 minutes of the stadium, including approximately 900 at a headquarters hotel in order to meet the NFL's requirements.

So let's look at how this would work out in Eastern Wisconsin:

The greater Green Bay area (incl. Ashwaubie, De Pere, Alloowaaaay, etc.) has a total of 4,300 hotel rooms, of which only several hundred are full service.
The Fox Cities have just over 2,800 hotel rooms, again, only several hundred of which are full service (notice a trend, here).
Door County has about 1,500 guest rooms, most in properties less than 50 total units.
If you could get the NFL to extend the 60 minute limit to 70 minutes, you could include Kohler/Sheboygan & Fondy's 3,000 or so hotel rooms.

Assuming you could bring in some contract guest services & food service so as to transform all the Candlewood, Hampton, and Motel 6s into full-service hotels for a couple weeks, you're still about 7,000 rooms short.  But even if you could add some temporary housing (and pray for add'l development), you're still lacking a hotel of the requisite size for the NFL's HQ during Super Bowl week.  The largest hotel in Green Bay and the Fox Cities is under 400 rooms.  In fact, the only place in Wisconsin where you can get a 900+ room hotel is in Wisconsin Dells (Wilderness, ~1,100 rooms/condos).  In fact, the Hilton in d/t Milwaukee only checks in at 730 rooms.

But Benny, what about cruise ships?  That's what they did in Jacksonville.

I admire your persistence, not to mention your grasp of trivial sports history.  The largest cruise ships in the world are Royal Caribbean's Oasis and Allure (of the Seas), each with just over 2,700 staterooms; so add in one of RC's Freedom, Liberty or Independence ships (each about 1,800 staterooms), and you've got the 7,000 additional rooms needed, right?  Well, even if you could pluck three of the world's largest cruise ships out of the Caribbean for a month during peak season, there's one minor problem... these cruise ships are all in excess of 1,100 feet, and the longest ships that can go through the locks of the St Lawrence Seaway are 740 feet.  So the Super Bowl Shuffleboard Tourney and Captain's Brunch ain't going to happen, Commodore.

The bottom line is that Wisconsin simply does not and never will have the infrastructure in place to meet the NFL's demands.  This leaves two options:

1) Make the Super Bowl about a football game and get the NFL to bend on their host city requirements (who needs the pageantry any way, right) or
2) Build a high-speed train from Wisconsin Dells to Green Bay, because we all know how much the state of Wisconsin loves high-speed trains.

Moral of Story: The Super Bowl is not good enough to be played on the sacred grounds of Lambeau Field.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

brandx

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Re: Why the Super Bowl Won't Ever Be in Green Bay...
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2014, 05:17:18 PM »
It's all logistics. The big rollers who are spending the cash would rather do it in San Diego, or NYC or New Orleans.

They don't wanna hang out in some corner bar after  dining on the fine cuisine at Applebys on the Saturday night.


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Re: Why the Super Bowl Won't Ever Be in Green Bay...
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2014, 10:03:58 AM »
That's fine be me, I'd rather GB play in the Super Bowl than host it.  ;D

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Re: Why the Super Bowl Won't Ever Be in Green Bay...
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2014, 08:00:12 PM »
It's all logistics. The big rollers who are spending the cash would rather do it in San Diego, or NYC or New Orleans.

They don't wanna hang out in some corner bar after  dining on the fine cuisine at Applebys on the Saturday night.



Apparently you haven't heard that there are two Dunkin Donuts opening this spring in Green Bay.

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Re: Why the Super Bowl Won't Ever Be in Green Bay...
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 12:08:55 AM »
Or Minnesota.

The NFL has new requirements for a Super Bowl.  The biggest hurdle right now is the NFL and the Minneapolis city council/Metropolitan Council are disagreeing right now about state withholding taxes.  The NFL does not want any individual withholding state tax on income.  The "geniuses" on the Minneapolis council/Metro council want to tax them.  That is the holdup.  They obviously do not see the whole picture as far as overall revenue.

This is just a complete replay of the whole retractable dome on the Twins stadium.  Nobody wants to pay.  The Twins owners, who inherited about $1.4bill, wouldn't pony up and the gov't said FU. Twins Field is heated though.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2014, 12:10:38 AM by SaintPaulWarrior »

Benny B

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Re: Why the Super Bowl Won't Ever Be in Green Bay...
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 11:40:37 AM »
So the NFL wants Minnesota to waive state income taxes for just the players who are playing in the Super Bowl or for all NFL players who play in Minnesota throughout the year?

I don't like taxes any more than the next person, but I see nothing wrong with Minnesota wanting to tax income... it already does for everyone else in the state, why should NFL players get an exemption?  I understand that the NFL can take the Super Bowl to a locale that doesn't have a state income tax, but requiring Minnesota to make an exemption for NFL players, be that one-time or perpetual, in order to qualify their Super Bowl bid is ridiculous.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

 

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