So now it's Wojo or Wardle?

[ecompt]

Hard to believe how low this program has sunk in just 12 months.

[HutchwasClutch]

Hard to believe how low this program has sunk in just 12 months.

Why can't Archie still be in the mix- come on MU!!

[LastWarrior]

April fools day?

I'd take Wojo every day of the week and twice on Sunday.  Still think there is someone else we don't know about.

[HutchwasClutch]

Better yet, just get Howland before Cal does. (haven't heard or read anything about him going to Cal, but it sure makes a ton of sense).

[Tums Festival]

National media keeps mentioning Howland as a candidate. Despite all the speculation on Scoop, nowhere has it been reported that he's out of the mix.

[HutchwasClutch]

It's no secret that Wojo fits the profile of guys Cords likes to hire.  Although the program was vastly different now then when O'Neill and Crean were hired.  We really had no choice at that time but to go and get the best assistant out there.

Plus MU probably likes that he's squeaky clean and the program he comes from is squeaky clean.  

[HutchwasClutch]

National media keeps mentioning Howland as a candidate. Despite all the speculation on Scoop, nowhere has it been reported that he's out of the mix.

That's very true, but there's got to be a major hang up on him with some person(s) w/ a lot of influence.  Rumor has been Strong, it's got to be someone with a lot of sway at MU.

[Tums Festival]

That's very true, but there's got to be a major hang up on him with some person(s) w/ a lot of influence.  Rumor has been Strong, it's got to be someone with a lot of sway at MU.

That's what's so odd about all this. I agree there does seem to be some sort of hang up on MU's end, yet at the same time he's still supposedly in the mix.

[chapman]

The True Coach awaits his coronation. 

[Beer Brats Bags]

That moment you realize you're not the destination for coaches that you were hoping you were.

A lot of people think we he can get these big name coaches, but our last hire was Buzz fricken Williams. Who had him as their #1 go get back then? I remember just shaking my head, but it turned out okay.

Wardle would be a huge disaster. Wojo I'm torn over, but if it's between these two, then wojo  slap the floor hands down. I don't think Howland is in the discussion, but maybe MU is just doing their due diligence. I'd be thrilled with Howland, but I just don't think it's going to happen. We will get an assistant like we always seem to, shine him up and he'll move on one day. Sucks but unless the big east improves to make these schools more of a destination, that's what we are stuck with

[Litehouse]

Eh, I'd rather take Wardle over Wojo.

[willie warrior]

It's no secret that Wojo fits the profile of guys Cords likes to hire.  Although the program was vastly different now then when O'Neill and Crean were hired.  We really had no choice at that time but to go and get the best assistant out there.

Plus MU probably likes that he's squeaky clean and the program he comes from is squeaky clean.  

Cords shot his mouth and said they were going to get an impact hire. No way is an assistant an impact hire.
There will be much gnashing of teeth on this guy. Get somebody that has some HC experience.

[Beer Brats Bags]

Cords shot his mouth and said they were going to get an impact hire. No way is an assistant an impact hire.
There will be much gnashing of teeth on this guy. Get somebody that has some HC experience.

Willie I agree with you completely. If we were promised an impact hire, that's what we expect. Howland is an impact hire... I wish we knew why he's presumed to no longer be a candidate.

[NavinRJohnson]

That's what's so odd about all this. I agree there does seem to be some sort of hang up on MU's end, yet at the same time he's still supposedly in the mix.

[willie warrior]

That moment you realize you're not the destination for coaches that you were hoping you were.

A lot of people think we he can get these big name coaches, but our last hire was Buzz fricken Williams. Who had him as their #1 go get back then? I remember just shaking my head, but it turned out okay.

Wardle would be a huge disaster. Wojo I'm torn over, but if it's between these two, then wojo  slap the floor hands down. I don't think Howland is in the discussion, but maybe MU is just doing their due diligence. I'd be thrilled with Howland, but I just don't think it's going to happen. We will get an assistant like we always seem to, shine him up and he'll move on one day. Sucks but unless the big east improves to make these schools more of a destination, that's what we are stuck with

So you shook your head at Buzz, but that turned out OK. How do you have any clue that Wardle would be "a huge disaster".He could just as easily turn out "OK". The truth is any of these guys could be a huge disaster/ or not. If Howland is out because Dick Weak says so, then maybe Wardle is not as bad as you "perceive" I would prefer Howland, but we should not go the route of an assistant again. What does Wojo have? He recruits, along with others at Duke. Well, Coach K has final say, and Duke recruits by its name--not Wojo. What coaching experience does he have--none. We do not need another guy that will be learning on the job.

[CTWarrior]

It's no secret that Wojo fits the profile of guys Cords likes to hire.  Although the program was vastly different now then when O'Neill and Crean were hired.  We really had no choice at that time but to go and get the best assistant out there.

Plus MU probably likes that he's squeaky clean and the program he comes from is squeaky clean.  

I don't get a good feeling about Wojo.  What could be easier than recruiting kids to play for Coach K?  That alone puts his recruiting prowess into question.  Also seems to me, as others have pointed out, that guys from the Coach K tree don't have a lot of success right out of the chute.  And he's been at Duke an awfully long time.  If he was able to guide a program like ours, why hasn't he been snapped up by now?

In reality, I will support whole-heartedly whoever we hire, but Wojo would not be an exciting hire at all.  If we are going to hire an assistant, I'd rather have Stephens from MSU or Hopkins from Syracuse, who admittedly have a lot of the same issues as Wojo.

[Beer Brats Bags]

So you shook your head at Buzz, but that turned out OK. How do you have any clue that Wardle would be "a huge disaster".He could just as easily turn out "OK". The truth is any of these guys could be a huge disaster/ or not. If Howland is out because Dick Weak says so, then maybe Wardle is not as bad as you "perceive" I would prefer Howland, but we should not go the route of an assistant again. What does Wojo have? He recruits, along with others at Duke. Well, Coach K has final say, and Duke recruits by its name--not Wojo. What coaching experience does he have--none. We do not need another guy that will be learning on the job.

You're right, Wardle could turn out OK too. I just don't think he's ready, but I could very well be wrong. I would rather have someone proven. One could argue that Wardle is proven.

I don't think we should hire someone from a low end D1 school, nor an assistant... So I'm torn if it's between these two. I would rather go with Wojo because he knows what it's like to recruit at a big school and comes from success... Which no it doesn't guarantee he will be successful, but I'd rather have someone who has learned from the best than someone who is learning as he goes

[humanlung]

C'mon people. 

Wojo comes here and does a decent to good job for three to five years.  Coach K retires.  Now that Wojo has a track record as a head coach, does ANYONE believe he sticks around if offered the Duke job?

Hire Howland.  He wants to be here and doesn't have an incentive to jump to a bigger job.  He's already done that.  Yes, he has a past I am sure but no violations that would hurt a program.  The guy can coach.  He can recruit.  He's got the pedigree.  He's got players in the NBA.  If you say he's too old, I say see Steve Fisher at SDSU.

[Groin_pull]

C'mon people. 

Wojo comes here and does a decent to good job for three to five years.  Coach K retires.  Now that Wojo has a track record as a head coach, does ANYONE believe he sticks around if offered the Duke job?

Hire Howland.  He wants to be here and doesn't have an incentive to jump to a bigger job.  He's already done that.  Yes, he has a past I am sure but no violations that would hurt a program.  The guy can coach.  He can recruit.  He's got the pedigree.  He's got players in the NBA.  If you say he's too old, I say see Steve Fisher at SDSU.

MU has become feeder program for the big boys. Take an assistant...shine 'em up...and watch them leave.

[Nukem2]

MU has become feeder program for the big boys. Take an assistant...shine 'em up...and watch them leave.

OTOH, that has worked out well for MU.

[Spotcheck Billy]

why would Wojo be Duke's 1st choice?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

why would Wojo be Duke's 1st choice?

At this point, he's not. I have heard that he is 4th in line for the Duke throne.

1) Dawkins
2) Amaker
3) Collins
4) Wojo

Of course, if he does extremely well in the next 3-5 years, who knows?

Even if he leaves, I'm happy with the hire. I think he keeps the cupboard full and will push us to a new level