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Author Topic: Doesn't it seem the Howland ship has sailed by now?  (Read 6584 times)

NavinRJohnson

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Re: Doesn't it seem the Howland ship has sailed by now?
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2014, 02:36:54 PM »

And besides, the premier coaching candidate who happens to be black turned down the MU position.  This in and of itself should be enough to quell anybody who would question Marquette's coaching search as anything other than seeking the most qualified candidate.

I agree. You and I aren't running this search or the University though. You and I can agree that it shouldn't happen. That doesn't mean it isn't happening.

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Re: Doesn't it seem the Howland ship has sailed by now?
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2014, 02:37:44 PM »
Because it's the wrong way to go about hiring.  The NCAA doesn't require it and rightfully so.  It places the random genetic trait of skin pigmentation ahead of winning as a requirement for the job. etc, etc, etc.

Again I'll repeat: If Marquette really is self imposing the 'Rooney Rule' on their coaching search fans of the program and school should be up in arms.


EDIT: Now Navin, you may know something nobody else does here (or has been mentioned in any credible news outlet), but after the week of sources being dropped on this site by posters who without exception turned out to be wrong forgive me for being skeptical.  If it is true I'll stick to my comments above about the rediculousness of that reasoning.

Does anybody else believe this?  I find it hard to believe that we would willingly constrain ourselves like this.  The field is small as it is, why narrow it down further?  Especially given that we are a private university.  IMO, Shaka is a no-brainer candidate, regardless of race and I don't fault MU for taking a shot.  

But just because the next guy talked about is a black guy means we're self-imposing the Rooney Rule?  All of the names that initially came up were white guys eg Hopkins, Howland, Masiello, Wardle, etc.  If we leave Howland waiting around while we interview a black assistant from, say, Georgia Southern, then I'll buy the theory, but until then, put me in the skeptical camp.

I hope people have more faith in Cords et al than that.  I think there are reasons why Howland is being avoided and race isn't even close to making that list.  I also think Martin's race, if a factor, is a small one.

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Re: Doesn't it seem the Howland ship has sailed by now?
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2014, 02:41:47 PM »
I pray that this doesnt become a race issue. C'mon Marquette fans, we better than that!

NavinRJohnson

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Re: Doesn't it seem the Howland ship has sailed by now?
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2014, 02:42:53 PM »
No one is suggesting they aren't qualified candidates. Simply suggesting there is a concerted effort to make sure they identify and consider minority candidates. That's all. Again, youmguys act like its unusual.

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Re: Doesn't it seem the Howland ship has sailed by now?
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2014, 02:43:04 PM »
Does anybody else believe this?  I find it hard to believe that we would willingly constrain ourselves like this.  The field is small as it is, why narrow it down further?  Especially given that we are a private university.  IMO, Shaka is a no-brainer candidate, regardless of race and I don't fault MU for taking a shot.  

But just because the next guy talked about is a black guy means we're self-imposing the Rooney Rule?  All of the names that initially came up were white guys eg Hopkins, Howland, Masiello, Wardle, etc.  If we leave Howland waiting around while we interview a black assistant from, say, Georgia Southern, then I'll buy the theory, but until then, put me in the skeptical camp.

I hope people have more faith in Cords et al than that.  I think there are reasons why Howland is being avoided and race isn't even close to making that list.  I also think Martin's race, if a factor, is a small one.


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