Marquette made no effort to keep Williams

[ChicosBailBonds]

Did not tank, but made a point IMO.

If that is true, they should have fired him during the season.  I find it hard to believe he was trying to prove a point on this, but if so he is quite the piece of work.

[Eldon]

If that is true, they should have fired him during the season.  I find it hard to believe he was trying to prove a point on this, but if so he is quite the piece of work.

Absolutely no way he threw the season

a)  We would have fired him mid-season

b)  He would have played Juan Anderson more than he did.  I know that sounds mean, but it's true.

[Dawson Rental]

Absolutely no way he threw the season

a)  We would have fired him mid-season

b)  He would have played Juan Anderson more than he did.  I know that sounds mean, but it's true.

And my first laugh of the night, although I know that wasn't what you were going for.

[Mutaman]

Goose, you're close to the program ... are you saying Buzz tanked the season on purpose?

One thing we've learned in the past few hours: Those "close to the program" are a bunch of morons. we would have been better off paying attention to Mike Hunt and the usual speculators on the internet.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yea, I hate Tanned Tommy a lot more because he is a jerk. BW is just a weird f uck.

Years ago when we hired Buzz one of my best friends who is an Athletic Director at a DI school and knows Buzz told me "I'm surprised you hired him.  Good coach, but a weird f uck".  I kid you not

[Mutaman]

Years ago when we hired Buzz one of my best friends who is an Athletic Director at a DI school and knows Buzz told me "I'm surprised you hired him.  Good coach, but a weird f uck".  I kid you not

Why didn't you tell us this a long time ago?

[brandx]

Years ago when we hired Buzz one of my best friends who is an Athletic Director at a DI school and knows Buzz told me "I'm surprised you hired him.  Good coach, but a weird f uck".  I kid you not

Telling comment from UNO board after buzz quit on them. And he played the victim there too, complaining he was given enough of everything:

"His main problem is the X's and O's. Buzz had a veteran team and still only won 14 games. His gameplan at UNO was use five people, sub rarely, and complain about lack of players at the end of the game. This was the Sun Belt, not the SEC. Our bench was more than capable of winning some games for us with the teams we faced."

Very much the way a lot of us felt this year.

[Goose]

Of course Buzz was shocked MU hired him. He  came out of nowhere and won the lottery. Hats off to him.

[muwarrior97]

Why didn't you tell us this a long time ago?

I think Chico's hinted at it but lots of people were sippin' the koolaid and lovin' the Buzz

[ChicosBailBonds]

Why didn't you tell us this a long time ago?

Oh, I'm pretty sure I did.....and got arse raped by some here for saying it.  It's not what is said, but who says the what.

[statnik]

Telling comment from UNO board after buzz quit on them. And he played the victim there too, complaining he was given enough of everything:

"His main problem is the X's and O's. Buzz had a veteran team and still only won 14 games. His gameplan at UNO was use five people, sub rarely, and complain about lack of players at the end of the game. This was the Sun Belt, not the SEC. Our bench was more than capable of winning some games for us with the teams we faced."

Very much the way a lot of us felt this year.

What's strange about this is I remember him lauding Missouri's good team in 08-09 that beat our squad that used a version of Nolan Richardson's old '40 Minutes of Hell' gameplan, based on depth and running opponents into submission.  Seems odd that he mentions that as his ideal vision of a team, yet shows occasional issues of not wanting to use his bench or at least the young, unproven bench players even when nothing else is working.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Oh, I'm pretty sure I did.....and got arse raped by some here for saying it.  It's not what is said, but who says the what.

Chicos, I respect a lot of what you say. But you don't need to use rape to get your point across. Not funny

[only a warrior]

+1 you are a MU grad - be better than that

[ChicosBailBonds]

Telling comment from UNO board after buzz quit on them. And he played the victim there too, complaining he was given enough of everything:

"His main problem is the X's and O's. Buzz had a veteran team and still only won 14 games. His gameplan at UNO was use five people, sub rarely, and complain about lack of players at the end of the game. This was the Sun Belt, not the SEC. Our bench was more than capable of winning some games for us with the teams we faced."

Very much the way a lot of us felt this year.

Careful, bringing up comments from UNO posters will have you labeled here for 6 years....it's not what is said here, it is WHO says the what

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chicos, I respect a lot of what you say. But you don't need to use rape to get your point across. Not funny

My apologies. 

[dinger]

How many years before this exact same thread shows up on the VT boards?

Whether it's something sinister or just that he wore out his welcome here buzz just doesn't stay anywhere very long in general. I don't see VT being in his long term plans.

[cheebs09]

"When I was losing, they called me nuts. When I was winning they called me eccentric." I feel this quote sums it up.

I totally forgot about the lack of mentions in senior day, but I remember that being strange while watching. This just seems like a very weird situation. Out of all the jobs his name has been tied to over the years, this is one of the worst ones.

[Tugg Speedman]

How many years before this exact same thread shows up on the VT boards?

Whether it's something sinister or just that he wore out his welcome here buzz just doesn't stay anywhere very long in general. I don't see VT being in his long term plans.

How many years did it take the IU boards to sound like the MU boards?

[ceh]

Yea, I hate Tanned Tommy a lot more because he is a jerk. BW is just a weird f uck.

BW was a strange dude.

[ChicosBailBonds]

How many years did it take the IU boards to sound like the MU boards?

With Marquette fans over there posing at IU fans early on, not that long.

[KenoshaWarrior]

What other explanation is there for his beyond stubborn insistence to continue to trot out the same ineffective backcourt over and over and over....and relegate his talented freshman to the bench...I mean Burton sitting the last 7 minutes of the Xavier game??  WTF?

But as Hunt wrote...Buzz began to question his rotations/coaching strategy/etc...think he was just totally lost this season...doubled down on the vets, and that vets would eventually right the ship....and when it didn't happen...he couldn't save face..

Was also odd in one of the Hunt articles, an assistant coach (think Wainwright) was quoted as telling Todd that he needed to go to Buzz to ask for more consistent playing time/less jerking around/yanked in and out..

You really think that a coach would tank a season?   
That is beyond crazy thinking.

[mu-rara]

I think Chico's hinted at it but lots of people were sippin' the koolaid and lovin' the Buzz

Hinted with a lot of speculation, innuendo and opinion.  Very little in the way of facts.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hinted with a lot of speculation, innuendo and opinion.  Very little in the way of facts.

Plenty of facts.  I know two of the moderators over there.  Easy for them to know based on where people are coming from where they signed up originally, etc.  Actually, plenty of facts.

Anything else?

[NersEllenson]

You really think that a coach would tank a season?   
That is beyond crazy thinking.

I should qualify that inference...connect the dots:  I find it odd that Buzz had it worked into his contract that if the A.D., were to leave, his buyout would be reduced to 100k from $2M.  Particularly, when there is a rift with said A.D. Perhaps the buyout is what gave pause to other schools in the past from moving forward with Buzz. 

Now, fast forward...Larry gets axed or leaves...door is wide open for Buzz...his team GREATLY underperforms expectations...for first time in his MU tenure...fanbase becomes critical...he hears the complaints, comments on being disappointed in hearing boos at Bradley Center...odd rotations, odd benchings, team falls flat on its face...no mentions from any of the seniors other than Otule thanking Buzz on senior day...and now you have a scenario where "they (fanbase) no longer wanted me."

[Sir Lawrence]

fify.  Members of the administration, the Board, and boosters have bent over backwards to accommodate Buzz over the years in an effort to keep him around, made some big time calls, provided resources, given him leeway.  Just too many imagined slights, boogeymen, and not enough pampering and poetry written about him to keep up this time.

This was mostly true on Thursday.  This became very true on Friday.  Apparently enough was enough, called his bluff.  Bye, bye.