Buzz's coaching

[Stretchdeltsig]

The fact is that Burton like Mayo is a game changer.  To win we need the most dominant players on the floor.

[Texas Western]

I don't believe Juan was taking minutes away from Burton. At the beginning of the year, a case could have been made for Juan as being a defensive hustle type player who was going to take it to another level offensively. Obviously the offensive part  didn't happen and his playing time was cut back accordingly. The coach allocated excessive minutes to both guards that could have been reallocated d in a more constructive and beneficial way. My belief is the lions share of some of those potentially reallocated minutes could have and should have gone to Burton.

[Windyplayer]

I'm not really arguing for Juan, so I don't have to rectify it.  I'm arguing against the blank statement of "if they get more playing time they will be better".

When was this argument ever made? No one ever made it in a vacuum. The call for additional playing time is based on what that player has done in limited action. Nobody here is saying that more PT is a panacea for weaknesses in a player's game. More playing time is to tap into the potential that you see in that player in limited time. Anderson has done very little in limited action. As far as defense, he's not a specialist that's locking down the opposition's best player so he should not be getting more playing time for defense. It's not that offense completely overshadows defense, it's that Anderson's defense isn't mind-blowingly amazing--it's pretty good, but no where near the point to justify more playing time as a result of it.

[NersEllenson]

And this is where I guess we agree to disagree.  As a player(and I've played at the D1 level in another sport), you make the most of the minutes you get.  I guarantee if Dawson was doing the right things in his 2 to 3 minute stints he would have more than 2 to 3 minutes a stint.  As an example, in the Gtown game he performed and got the minutes he earned.  You can't go into a game as a freshmen with expectations and university revenue on the line and expect to play through bad/stupid.  It's just not a reality, and you have to adjust your game accordingly, be focused from the outset, be prepared mentally, etc.

I agree Dawson has the physical tools but he doesn't have the mental game yet, when he does he should be good, but you don't figure out that mental game on the court in conference play.

He did do this in the Providence game...committed a foul or two that could be a counter argument...but come on...look at Derrick's totally and completely ill advised foul during Providence game.  Derrick has made his share of mistakes defensively and offensively...he made 1, 3point shot all year.  43% from the line.  That to me isn't indicative of earning MORE minutes than any other player and Buzz not giving DAwson a consistent 15-20 regardless of what happens in those minutes - have to be able to play through mistakes.

[Windyplayer]

43% from the line. 

This alone is jaw-dropping. One of the most disgusting statistics I've seen as an MU fan.

[mu03eng]

This alone is jaw-dropping. One of the most disgusting statistics I've seen as an MU fan.

melodramatic much?

[mu03eng]

He did do this in the Providence game...committed a foul or two that could be a counter argument...but come on...look at Derrick's totally and completely ill advised foul during Providence game.  Derrick has made his share of mistakes defensively and offensively...he made 1, 3point shot all year.  43% from the line.  That to me isn't indicative of earning MORE minutes than any other player and Buzz not giving DAwson a consistent 15-20 regardless of what happens in those minutes - have to be able to play through mistakes.

We can cherry pick things both ways.  And again, I'm not arguing against more minutes for Dawson, I think he should have had more minutes but a blank check for minutes is just dumb, you earn the minutes.  And you don't know Dawson, maybe he's the type of player that has what I call cascading problems, one mistake begets another begets another and soon he's in a tizzy and much worse off then if he just got pulled at the beginning to think things through.  Maybe he is ultra confident and never "remembers" a mistake.  We don't know.

[Windyplayer]

melodramatic much?

Nope, not at all. I'll stand by that. A starting point guard that plays the lion's share at the point shooting 43% at the line. It's almost unfathomable.

[brandx]

I don't believe Juan was taking minutes away from Burton. At the beginning of the year, a case could have been made for Juan as being a defensive hustle type player who was going to take it to another level offensively. Obviously the offensive part  didn't happen and his playing time was cut back accordingly. The coach allocated excessive minutes to both guards that could have been reallocated d in a more constructive and beneficial way. My belief is the lions share of some of those potentially reallocated minutes could have and should have gone to Burton.

Wrong - playing time was not cut back.

He played at least 15 minutes in 3 of our first 5 games and at least 15 minutes in 3 of our last 5 games. Juan played more minutes in the 2nd half of the BE schedule than the first half.

[BCHoopster]

I'm not really arguing for Juan, so I don't have to rectify it.  I'm arguing against the blank statement of "if they get more playing time they will be better".

Also, if I wanted to rectify it, I would say that Juan has had only this season as a wing player so he is learning just as much as Burton is even though he has been in program for a couple of years.  Juan is learning to finish from the wing as opposed to with his back to the basket.

And my other point, is because everyone loves offense they are biased to accept a player with offensive strength and defensive weakness as opposed to the opposite.  In net they might be equal but there is a natural bias towards offense.

Juan is a good defensive player but on a team that has limited offensive skills you need somebody who can put the ball in the hole, and Juan has shown in 3 years he can not do it.  He will have enough time next year as they are going to be very weak upfront next year to improve on the offensive end, next year he has to show something.

[Golden Avalanche]

Nope, not at all. I'll stand by that. A starting point guard that plays the lion's share at the point shooting 43% at the line. It's almost unfathomable.

crap. I remember the last two seasons a sizable amount of fans bemoaned having Cadougan on the court during late game have-to-foul situations because he was suspect from the FT line. And that was a 68% shooter.

It physically hurts watching Derrick shoot a free throw.

[tower912]

Does anyone remember Dominic James .461 FT % his senior year?     How about Tony Miller's career .355 FG %?

[willie warrior]

Does anyone remember Dominic James .461 FT % his senior year?     How about Tony Miller's career .355 FG %?

Both were significantly better players than your boy Derrick. Tony is 8th in NCAA career assists. That is rareified air that Derrick will never sniff. Tony likely has a higher career scoring average than Derrick, as does DJ.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Does anyone remember Dominic James .461 FT % his senior year?     How about Tony Miller's career .355 FG %?

DJ only shot that poorly his senior year at the line, his first under Buzz.  Clearly, Buzz needs to have his guys practice more FT's 

I can't link TMill's shooting woes to Buzz, but give me a day to think about it.

[79Warrior]

Both were significantly better players than your boy Derrick. Tony is 8th in NCAA career assists. That is rareified air that Derrick will never sniff. Tony likely has a higher career scoring average than Derrick, as does DJ.

+1

[NersEllenson]

Does anyone remember Dominic James .461 FT % his senior year?     How about Tony Miller's career .355 FG %?

Did Tony MIller have more than 2, 3pt makes by the end of his junior year?  I mean we are talking quite possibly, lowest ever output from a PG in high major basketball averaging 31 minutes in game in the way of made 3 point shots and FT percentage...

[mu03eng]

Did Tony MIller have more than 2, 3pt makes by the end of his junior year?  I mean we are talking quite possibly, lowest ever output from a PG in high major basketball averaging 31 minutes in game in the way of made 3 point shots and FT percentage...

Which we all know to be the two biggest metric's when judging a point guard.  Obviously those aren't good, and DWil is frustrating but even still he brought enough that he needed to play at least 25 minutes a game and you can't convince me otherwise given what else we had on this team.  So to me we're arguing over 5-8 minutes a game for Dawson...I'd have loved for him to play more but he didn't earn them IMO

[RubyWiscy]

I think Buzz if he ever wants to win again at MU should start reading this board. There are so many good ideas here it makes my head hurt.

[willie warrior]

Does anyone remember Dominic James .461 FT % his senior year?     How about Tony Miller's career .355 FG %?

Here's something that we can hold out both hands and wish for:
DJ shot about 67% on FT's his Jr. year and dropped over 20% his senior year
Derrick is about 44% this year, so we can all hope that he will improve as much as DJ dropped for next year. That would put him about 65%. Not great, but a whole lot better. Could justify him being in the game at the end in close games.

[4everwarriors]

Or he could bone in @ 24%, a'ina?