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brandx

Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 02, 2014, 11:15:43 AM
I think Minor league baseball and Minor league hockey are both set up well and I don't think it affects the college product coming out.  I mean I know those sports aren't as in high demand as college basketball but still I think it'd get rid of the athletes that don't want to be student athletes but keep those that do. 

What the minor leagues do is give kids an opportunity if they don't want to go to school.

That is the one thing missing so far in this thread. These are schools and most are taking the view that the kids who have no interest in college should be there for a year anyway. Maybe, just maybe, the colleges should be used for kids who want an education. Radical, maybe, but......

Galway Eagle

Quote from: brandx on March 02, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
What the minor leagues do is give kids an opportunity if they don't want to go to school.

That is the one thing missing so far in this thread. These are schools and most are taking the view that the kids who have no interest in college should be there for a year anyway. Maybe, just maybe, the colleges should be used for kids who want an education. Radical, maybe, but......

Exactly.  The AHL (along with the other lower leagues) and the A, AA, AAA system are perfect for those that don't want to go to school. The NBADL isn't really designed like those at all.  It's too full of retreads who are past their primes and players not physically gifted enough to play in the nba. 
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77ncaachamps

Quote from: brandx on March 02, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
What the minor leagues do is give kids an opportunity if they don't want to go to school.

That is the one thing missing so far in this thread. These are schools and most are taking the view that the kids who have no interest in college should be there for a year anyway. Maybe, just maybe, the colleges should be used for kids who want an education. Radical, maybe, but......

So why not go down that road and say those kids who want to ball go abroad, play, gain experience, and get paid a la soccer players?

I don't think it happens much with baseball and I'm not sure with hockey, but soccer players can play overseas as teens. Kids who hoop should consider that as well, especially the Wiggins, Embiids, and Parkers of this world.
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brandx

Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 02, 2014, 11:34:29 AM
Exactly.  The AHL (along with the other lower leagues) and the A, AA, AAA system are perfect for those that don't want to go to school. The NBADL isn't really designed like those at all.  It's too full of retreads who are past their primes and players not physically gifted enough to play in the nba. 

Similar to the minor leagues in baseball.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: brandx on March 02, 2014, 12:03:47 PM
Similar to the minor leagues in baseball.

I thought a decent amount of prospect came up through the A, AA, AAA system?  If not I follow hockey wayyy more than baseball so that would explain my lack of knowledge about it. 
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ChicosBailBonds

Reggie Miller was interviewed this morning on our Dan Patrick Show....basically said if he would have left his sophomore year he would have survived no more than one year in the NBA.  He wasn't ready until after his senior year as he was a late bloomer.  He would like to see the MLB rule put into play.


Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: PunchingPiper on March 02, 2014, 11:34:29 AM
Exactly.  The AHL (along with the other lower leagues) and the A, AA, AAA system are perfect for those that don't want to go to school. The NBADL isn't really designed like those at all.  It's too full of retreads who are past their primes and players not physically gifted enough to play in the nba. 

and kids cannot play in the D-league (as it is now) until they are 1 year removed from the HS graduating class

a 1 and done still couldn't get in the D-league until the NBA and player's assoc. changes the age requirement now in place, wonder where the NBA players would come down on this

Sunbelt15

Players should be able to go straight from high school to the pros. They can choose to go to the military, but they can't choose to become a millionaire straight out of high school. It's crazy.

Why did the NBA change that anyway?

jesmu84

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on March 06, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Players should be able to go straight from high school to the pros. They can choose to go to the military, but they can't choose to become a millionaire straight out of high school. It's crazy.

Why did the NBA change that anyway?

To protect themselves from sinking their franchises due to bad picks

Sunbelt15

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 06, 2014, 01:18:44 PM
To protect themselves from sinking their franchises due to bad picks

But high school players were so rare. Hard to believe they would destroy a franchise.

Bocephys

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on March 06, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
But high school players were so rare. Hard to believe they would destroy a franchise.

Michael Jordan and the Washington Wizards would beg to differ.  That Kwame Brown pick wasn't so hot.

Eldon

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 06, 2014, 01:18:44 PM
To protect themselves from sinking their franchises due to bad picks

Exactly.

It may sound strange, but this phenomena is quite common. Teams compete for picks and some team may go the extra mile to get some competitive advantage by taking a chance on some high school kid, many of whom have a good chance of turning into a bust.

An oft-cited example is helmets in hockey. Players all agreed that no helmets make them skate faster, but its dangerous. Thus they all agreed "look, I don't really wanna go out there helmetless, but I will if I have to in order to beat you in the game...how bout we agree that i wont go helmetless of you wont."

Robert Frank, an economist at Cornell and the NYT, invokes this argument in favor of a (usually higher) minimum wage. I personally disagree, but it is a respectable position to hold.

Sunbelt15

Quote from: Bocephys on March 07, 2014, 10:22:27 AM
Michael Jordan and the Washington Wizards would beg to differ.  That Kwame Brown pick wasn't so hot.

But it didn't destroy the franchise is my point. Every team makes bad picks here and there. Also, Kwame Brown is still in the league.

esotericmindguy

Quote from: MarsupialMadness on March 01, 2014, 07:07:11 PM
<Cuban's preference is that the NBA minimum age limit moves to 21 and three years out of high school. However, he can envision lowering the age limit for players who go to the D-League.>

So he basically wants to coerce the kids to go to the D-League instead of college.  

Read it again. He says nothing about not going to college. He says D League can provide professional tutors and offer better support while they're being paid to play. If they want to attend school of course.

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