For people who say "Buzz will learn from this"...

[79Warrior]

If, 32 games into the season, top 40 recruit JJJ is any less ready than our one dimensional, limited walk-on, then something is horribly wrong in the way we're either developing talent or evaluating it.

Who knows, but he clearly was not ready to play. Buzz played Burton, so if JJJ was ready he would have been able to get a few minutes here and there. It could be JJJ is not as good as advertised. Perhaps the transition to D-1 was to much for him. He certainly was not riding the pine IF he was capable of contribuing. My guess is he just was not ready.

[KenoshaWarrior]

If, 32 games into the season, top 40 recruit JJJ is any less ready than our one dimensional, limited walk-on, then something is horribly wrong in the way we're either developing talent or evaluating it.

The guy was a top 40 guy so Unless every magazine and recruiting site is an idiot than you cant say that it was because of lack of talent evaluation.  Busts happen alot.
Sam Okey, Julian Schwartz, Boo Wade, Brian Butch,  were some of wisconsins' players that never played up to potential.

[willie warrior]

The guy was a top 40 guy so Unless every magazine and recruiting site is an idiot than you cant say that it was because of lack of talent evaluation.  Busts happen alot.
Sam Okey, Julian Schwartz, Boo Wade, Brian Butch,  were some of wisconsins' players that never played up to potential.

You are right about busts happening, but Buzz has had his share also. Is this an attempt to deflect the issue to everybody's favorite whipping boy, Bo? We need to bring up some of Crean's also, to really muck it up.

[brandx]

From MUFanatic:
I know this comment is about Derrick, Jake and Juan but to your first point above this, Buzz identified that Derrick was better than Dawson and that Jake was better than JJJ.  Juan's minutes were mostly limited the second half of the year and he provided the defense and energy that Buzz wanted.  If there is one thing I take away from last night's game is that Burton should have played more minutes the second half of the year and those minutes needed to come from Jamil Wilson but that is an extremely tough decision to make

Juan's minutes were not limited in the 2nd half of the year and for numerous people here to say it is so doesn't matter. It is not true.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

It struck me that last night Buzz had Deonte playing at the free throw line where Lazar used to set up. It sure was an improvement from passing around the perimeter when they got the ball to him.

[Big Papi]

From MUFanatic:
I know this comment is about Derrick, Jake and Juan but to your first point above this, Buzz identified that Derrick was better than Dawson and that Jake was better than JJJ.  Juan's minutes were mostly limited the second half of the year and he provided the defense and energy that Buzz wanted.  If there is one thing I take away from last night's game is that Burton should have played more minutes the second half of the year and those minutes needed to come from Jamil Wilson but that is an extremely tough decision to make

Juan's minutes were not limited in the 2nd half of the year and for numerous people here to say it is so doesn't matter. It is not true.

So in the last 15 games, there was a 3 game stretch where Juan had extended minutes.  Depaul 22 min in an OT game, Georgetown 19 min and Villanova 17 min.  Juan had a very good game against Georgetown and helped us win that game.  We beat Depaul and got smoked by Villanova. 

Outside of those 3 games, he had 2 other games with decent minutes, 21 minutes against Seton Hall and 17 minutes against St. Johns in a game where Jamil Wilson was either hurt or benched but only played 13 minutes.

The rest of the games: St. Johns (0 min in 2OT), Xavier (2 min), Butler (2 min), Villanova (2 min in an OT game), Georgetown (4 min), Providence (5 min in 2OT), Butler (7 min in OT game), Xavier (8 min), Providence (9 min). 

And to top it off he played 7 minutes total in our last 3 games where there was 140 minutes of playing opportunity. 

Btw, he played double digit minutes in the first 15 games of the season with 26 minutes being his high water mark against Wisconsin.

[brandx]

So in the last 15 games, there was a 3 game stretch where Juan had extended minutes.  Depaul 22 min in an OT game, Georgetown 19 min and Villanova 17 min.  Juan had a very good game against Georgetown and helped us win that game.  We beat Depaul and got smoked by Villanova. 

Outside of those 3 games, he had 2 other games with decent minutes, 21 minutes against Seton Hall and 17 minutes against St. Johns in a game where Jamil Wilson was either hurt or benched but only played 13 minutes.

The rest of the games: St. Johns (0 min in 2OT), Xavier (2 min), Butler (2 min), Villanova (2 min in an OT game), Georgetown (4 min), Providence (5 min in 2OT), Butler (7 min in OT game), Xavier (8 min), Providence (9 min). 

And to top it off he played 7 minutes total in our last 3 games where there was 140 minutes of playing opportunity. 

Btw, he played double digit minutes in the first 15 games of the season with 26 minutes being his high water mark against Wisconsin.

Juan played 81 minutes in the first 9 BE games; 106 in the final 9 BE games. Doesn't appear that they lessened unless you just wanna go by the last 2 games of the schedule.

[Big Papi]

Juan played 81 minutes in the first 9 BE games; 106 in the final 9 BE games. Doesn't appear that they lessened unless you just wanna go by the last 2 games of the schedule.

Got it!  Go with the mean and only a specific set of games when it helps you prove a point and ignore the games were he played 0, 2, 2, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 minutes in the last 15 games and ignore the fact that he played double digit minutes in the first 15 games of season.  I am guessing non-conference doesn't fit your agenda, forget the fact that we struggled the early part of the year and played some very tough teams including Wisconsin were he logged in 26 minutes.  Got it. 

[brandx]

Got it!  Go with the mean and only a specific set of games when it helps you prove a point and ignore the games were he played 0, 2, 2, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 minutes in the last 15 games and ignore the fact that he played double digit minutes in the first 15 games of season.  I am guessing non-conference doesn't fit your agenda, forget the fact that we struggled the early part of the year and played some very tough teams including Wisconsin were he logged in 26 minutes.  Got it. 

You accidently forgot to mention that was only because Todd was out against UW. All of his early high minute games were against cupcakes (except UW).

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

What is the  difference between successful people and everyone else?  They learn from their mistakes and never give up. We know Buzz never gives up. I expect he will learn from his mistakes. Time will tell.  Yes, he is stubborn. That quality is what got a poor kid from Texas this far.  I vote for Buzz succeeding. Doubters beware, that same doubt can easily creep into our own lives. Fight it my friends, the struggle is what life is about. Fight the good fight in your lives.

I agree with this.  Also, perhaps Buzz is learning that he needs to stop recruiting the guys who eat McDonalds traveling in a bus (or however he referred to them) and focus on the guys in the motor coach eating higher class fare.  After all, We Are Marquette!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Can't think of 3? None of them would come but: Boeheim, Pitino, Calipari, Izzo, the Mayor, Mack, K, R. Williams, Wright, Brown, Dixon, Pastner, etc. just a quick snap. You need to put your thinking cap on. Because it will happen one day.

And by the way, if you swallow Buzz's "I don't even know how the NIT works" line, you really are a sucker for the downhome lonesome cowboy image. And if you take everything he says for gospel, how about his repeated statement that "I'm not a very good coach"? It must be tough to decide what to believe and not believe when Buzz speaks.

Just had to point this one out. Tower said "any coach that would come to MU." Do you really think most if any of these coaches would leave their current gig for Marquette?

[tower912]

That's what Willie replied with ?!?!   Wow.   Yes, the original statement referred to coaches that would come to MU.   Holy reading comprehension, batman. 

[forgetful]

Can't think of 3? None of them would come but: Boeheim, Pitino, Calipari, Izzo, the Mayor, Mack, K, R. Williams, Wright, Brown, Dixon, Pastner, etc. just a quick snap. You need to put your thinking cap on. Because it will happen one day.

And by the way, if you swallow Buzz's "I don't even know how the NIT works" line, you really are a sucker for the downhome lonesome cowboy image. And if you take everything he says for gospel, how about his repeated statement that "I'm not a very good coach"? It must be tough to decide what to believe and not believe when Buzz speaks.

Your list is interesting, of that list the only coach I would consider taking over Buzz would be Wright and Izzo.  The rest no.



Boeheim, Williams and Brown too old.  Calipari, Brown, Williams, Pitino...too shady.  Mack and Pastner, about the same as Buzz but without the personality (attracts eyes) and charisma.  Dixon and Hoiberg...no way.

[willie warrior]

Just had to point this one out. Tower said "any coach that would come to MU." Do you really think most if any of these coaches would leave their current gig for Marquette?

Reading is fundamental. I said "None of them will come". Tower, who slurps Buzz, said he can't think of 3 coaches that would come to MU, that he prefers over Buzz. That is a good way to try to protect that statement "can't think of 3 who would come" can be debated anyway he wants, because, really, how does anybody know who would come? I just threw out a quick bunch of names who would be great replacements for Buzz if he left. I don't know if any, all or some would be interested. The point was, there are plenty of people out there. And if the price was right, some may come.

Let's just let it rest that Buzz is Tower's boy over anybody else--just like Derrick is Buzz's boy over anybody else. Right?