Grantland Article-Interesting Read about Crean

[CreightonWarrior]

Pretty pathetic when you gotta actually pay for a Hummer.

I see what you did there. Definitely went over my head (pun intended?)

[Lennys Tap]

Remember when Crean bought his whole staff Hummers?

Cost him $200 at Ricky's.

[Archies Bat]

Pretty pathetic when you gotta actually pay for a Hummer.

Wait till your married more than 10 years!

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Fans, in general, are far quicker to sour on a coach.

My guess is that the admin is good with him. The program is clean(er). They are landing recruits. They are winning games.

With this said, the blue blood jobs are a double edged sword. Eventually, Crean is going to have to win big. But, I think they are a few seasons from that kind of pressure.

Oh, and "TC IS A BAD PERSON!!" /Shakes fist in the air

[StillAWarrior]

Agreed 100%.  He was getting heat and even Strong had some words for him from what I've heard after Stanford.  The question of could MU do better was out there for us fans, no doubt.   I think Crean was in the frying pan and the burner was already on simmer.  He knew it.  Add in that he was a bit of a prick and not generally liked, and the recipe was there for some quick frying.

It was time for a change for both sides.  And it worked out well for him and for MU. Change is risky, especially for MU, and I love what Crean did especially early on in his tenure at MU.  But in the end it was time for him to move on and for MU to move on.

If we knew we would have had a guy like Buzz take over, given what we know now, it would have been a more joyous leaving by Crean, on MU's part, even if he left with little dignity.  

I think that this is pretty much right on the money.  From my perspective, I had already realized that Crean was kind of an egotistical jerk (although I think a lot of head coaches are) and that he had certain limitations as an Xs and Os guy.  Some will say that both of those are understatements.  But I was also concerned about who would replace him, and if we'd take a step backward.  Fortunately, it really couldn't have worked out any better.  This is one of the reasons I'm confident that even if Buzz does leave -- and I hope he doesn't any time soon -- we'll be OK.  Marquette is in a very different position than it was before Crean came.  We're an elite program, and we'll get a quality coach.

[Jay Bee]

Wait till your married more than 10 years!

1) you're vs. your
2) 4never has been married for 67 years

[The Lens]

Crean didn't buy his staff Hummers, those were appropriated by Bergstrom Automotive.  The CEO is a MU grad and BOT.

Bottomline in my book, TC is a very good coach for a great deal of college basketball programs but he's over his ski's at a place like IU. 

IU plays in a make believe conf made up of 6 schools:

Coach K
John Calipari
Bill Self
Roy Williams
Tom Crean
Steve Alford

Crean is at best the 5th best coach in that 6 school conference.   

[Archies Bat]

1) you're vs. your
2) 4never has been married for 67 years

1) Sorry, engineer
2) Does a hummer even work after 67 years?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hoping to be able to put $500 toward the cure for Type 1 Juvenile Diabetes...Fred, you in?

[LAZER]

Crean didn't buy his staff Hummers, those were appropriated by Bergstrom Automotive.  The CEO is a MU grad and BOT.

Bottomline in my book, TC is a very good coach for a great deal of college basketball programs but he's over his ski's at a place like IU. 

IU plays in a make believe conf made up of 6 schools:

Coach K
John Calipari
Bill Self
Roy Williams
Tom Crean
Steve Alford

Crean is at best the 5th best coach in that 6 school conference.   

If you're going off of results, IU and UCLA are in a different league.

[StillAWarrior]

Hoping to be able to put $500 toward the cure for Type 1 Juvenile Diabetes...Fred, you in?

Fred, given Chicos extremely vague, "If you win, name the payout" offer, I'd jump on this.  Chicos wins:  $500 to Juvenile Diabetes.  You win:  $1 Million to Fred.  Gotta like them odds (although Chicos will probably win).

[4everwarriors]

1) Sorry, engineer
2) Does a hummer even work after 67 years?

Sure 'nough, if you're on the right side of the grass.

[warriorfred]

Chicos,

I don't gamble, and I would not donate to JDF (I have an issues with stem cell research and my catholic values).

You should understand that I am mildly pro-Crean.  He rebuilt a program that was headed in the wrong direction with Mike Deane.  He recruited Wade.  He led Marquette to a Final Four.  Those are all impressive accomplishments.  However, Marquette had clearly reached its pinnacle with Crean, and the loss to Stanford after a few years of poor post-season performance led many Marquette faithful to start whispering about a replacement.

In any event, in your rush to defend all things Crean, you missed a subtle dig/rip/condemnation of IU and its faithful.  So I will try again, if Marquette fans were questioning Crean's coaching ability 5 years ago, with all of his accomplishments, imagine the treatment he will soon receive at Indiana. 

IU fans expect yearly Final Fours, and few coaches can meet such lofty expectations.  Crean will not be able to meet these expectations and will be turned out in short order.

This is not to say Crean is a bad coach, simply, that he is not a great coach, and unfortunately for Crean, Indiana demands a great coach.

[keefe]

Home polishin' something.

Was Tom Izzo in town?

[keefe]

Remember when Crean bought his whole staff Hummers?

Air burst, face shot, or other?

[slingkong]

Air burst, face shot, or other?

"air burst" by another name would be "cock fart" no?

[keefe]

1) Sorry, engineer
2) Does a hummer even work after 67 years?

You mean the real armored up gun truck Hummer used by real men or the tricked out suburban Hummer driven by wannabes?

[MUDPT]

This is probably the reason for Titus's dislike for Crean:

http://clubtrillion.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html Read the first post.

[Coleman]

Chicos,

I don't gamble, and I would not donate to JDF (I have an issues with stem cell research and my catholic values).

You should understand that I am mildly pro-Crean.  He rebuilt a program that was headed in the wrong direction with Mike Deane.  He recruited Wade.  He led Marquette to a Final Four.  Those are all impressive accomplishments.  However, Marquette had clearly reached its pinnacle with Crean, and the loss to Stanford after a few years of poor post-season performance led many Marquette faithful to start whispering about a replacement.

In any event, in your rush to defend all things Crean, you missed a subtle dig/rip/condemnation of IU and its faithful.  So I will try again, if Marquette fans were questioning Crean's coaching ability 5 years ago, with all of his accomplishments, imagine the treatment he will soon receive at Indiana. 

IU fans expect yearly Final Fours, and few coaches can meet such lofty expectations.  Crean will not be able to meet these expectations and will be turned out in short order.

This is not to say Crean is a bad coach, simply, that he is not a great coach, and unfortunately for Crean, Indiana demands a great coach.

Sums up my views perfectly. And probably many other MU fans.

There are some on the fringes who adore or loathe him, but 90% are in the middle.

[🏀]

Arnold is no doubt a real man.