Goodman Insider Article on weak PGs

[77ncaachamps]

It's a wash.

Buzz will always play both Wilsons:
Derrick for stability, passing, and defense.
Duane for explosiveness and scoring.

So the answer is the two-headed monster wins.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Derrick is gonna be solid. Very solid.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It's a wash.

Buzz will always play both Wilsons:
Derrick for stability, passing, and defense.
Duane for explosiveness and scoring.

So the answer is the two-headed monster wins.

+1

Just like we have Oxtule at the 5, we will have the D Wils at the 1. They will play approximately the same amount of time on the court. Derrick will get in when we need defense, Duane when we need offense. Starting job will probably go to the veteran Derrick, but just as O'Tule got the starting job over Davante, that doesn't really mean anything.

[MU82]

It's a wash.

Buzz will always play both Wilsons:
Derrick for stability, passing, and defense.
Duane for explosiveness and scoring.

So the answer is the two-headed monster wins.

I'm hoping this season that Derrick displays the passing part of this equation. No evidence yet that this is a strength of his. Maybe it will be if he is handed the keys to the offense.

[Sunbelt15]

Derrick has proven to be a very good back-up PG. He takes care of the ball and plays solid D. That's all he's been asked to do at this level. He's never been asked to score or make plays offensively so we don't really know if that's in his repertoire. Personally, I think that if he played 20-25 minutes a night, puts up 6 points, 3 assists and shoots around 30% from 3, Marquette will be in good shape.

I think Derrick does all he can do. No one limits themselves if they have the ability to make the team better. The argument that he does only what Buzz ask him to do is stupid. That would that mean Buzz is telling him not to create assist and not to shoot the ball when wide open. That makes no sense.

A starting point, averaging 3 assist at 25min per is not good.

[MerrittsMustache]

I think Derrick does all he can do. No one limits themselves if they have the ability to make the team better. The argument that he does only what Buzz ask him to do is stupid. That would that mean Buzz is telling him not to create assist and not to shoot the ball when wide open. That makes no sense.

A starting point, averaging 3 assist at 25min per is not good.

Much like a back-up QB, a back-up PG's primary responsibility is to play it safe and take care of the ball (i.e. don't screw it up). That doesn't mean that Buzz is telling him not to create scoring opportunities or to limit himself at the detriment of the team. DW averaged 1 assist/8 minutes played last season (Cadougan's 1 assist/7.4 min) which is a pretty good ratio considering he was often put in for defensive purposes. He didn't shoot when he was open because he wasn't a very good shooter, thus shooting wouldn't be the safe play.

Cordell Henry averaged 3.2 assists in 33 minutes as a senior.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Derricks ast/min. numbers aren't bad.

The question is: With increased usage, can Derrick take another step forward in efficiency?

I'll leave that to Sugar and Blackheart to preview (statistically).

My gut says "yes", and I think he'll be a good 20+min. per game player.

[Marqus Howard]

I think Derrick does all he can do. No one limits themselves if they have the ability to make the team better.

Maybe, but I expect that Derrick will have more confidence this year which will make him a better player.

[MU82]

Much like a back-up QB, a back-up PG's primary responsibility is to play it safe and take care of the ball (i.e. don't screw it up). That doesn't mean that Buzz is telling him not to create scoring opportunities or to limit himself at the detriment of the team. DW averaged 1 assist/8 minutes played last season (Cadougan's 1 assist/7.4 min) which is a pretty good ratio considering he was often put in for defensive purposes. He didn't shoot when he was open because he wasn't a very good shooter, thus shooting wouldn't be the safe play.

Cordell Henry averaged 3.2 assists in 33 minutes as a senior.

I'm not usually a stats geek, but I'd welcome some kind of breakdown of the few assists Derrick has gotten. Because just based on recollection, most were of him throwing the ball around outside the arc and somebody catching, taking a dribble or two and then shooting an outside shot. I certainly don't remember any instances of Derrick actually creating an opportunity for a teammate, though there must have been a few of those, right? Right?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I'm not usually a stats geek, but I'd welcome some kind of breakdown of the few assists Derrick has gotten. Because just based on recollection, most were of him throwing the ball around outside the arc and somebody catching, taking a dribble or two and then shooting an outside shot. I certainly don't remember any instances of Derrick actually creating an opportunity for a teammate, though there must have been a few of those, right? Right?

Paint Touches did some analysis here: http://painttouches.com/2013/08/26/the-art-of-passing-derrick-wilson/

[MU82]

Paint Touches did some analysis here: http://painttouches.com/2013/08/26/the-art-of-passing-derrick-wilson/

Thanks for that link, TS. Here was the telling analysis in that article:

What is possible is to compare Cadougan’s percentages and assist chart to next year’s presumed starter, Wilson. Say what you will about freshman Duane Wilson — and we’ve said a lot — but Derrick will get the first nod.

Fourteen of Derrick’s 56 tracked assists (we were unable to find 1) last season came in or around the paint, where Wilson either beat his individual defender or outran the opponent’s transition defense. That 25 percent mark was much lower than Cadougan’s. Further, 25 of his assists (45%) resulted in layups or dunks, lower than Cadougan’s 55 percent mark.

In the case of Wilson, his description as a pass-first point guard was as a distributor rather than a facilitator. More times than not he was a product of Marquette’s offense as a passer, rather than making plays happen within it.

This confirms what many of us suspected. Frankly, I don't remember the 14 assists that came in or around the paint!

Once again, players do improve with hard work. With that, and the increased p.t. he figures to get, maybe he can become a real major-college PG. I guess we'll see soon enough. The opener is less than 2 months away, and Ohio State arrives a week after that.