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thanooj

I don't know if this is a viable option, but I kind of remember jimmy Mac running out on some three point shooters and disrupting their shots. Is it possible that otule and stj and even jamil can do that sort of thing?  I don't remember if we were in a zone when that kind of d happened.  with our rebounding guards tracking down the misses mu could disrupt their rhythm by running a big out on three point shots.
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BM1090

Extended man to man defense and pressure the hell out of their guards.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 20, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
Extended man to man defense and pressure the hell out of their guards.

I see the 3 quarter press being a big part of the game. 
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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muguru

Hopefully Buzz watched the tape of the UL-Davidson game from last year. That's the blueprint for a creative way to take Brooks out of the game.
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BCHoopster

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 20, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
BC...let it go.  The ND game is behind us.  Learn from it and move on.

Sultan, I will get over it as soon as they start playing tomorrow, then something else will upset me.  All I care is that they win, playing ugly is fine, but you need to stop turning the
ball over like 25% of the time.  One of the reasons they do that, is that they pass to much.  Have to take an open shot when they see it, hope Lockett had a lesson on not turning
it over.  I would like to see Lockett take the shot instead of putting his head down and driving to the basket.  Lockett is like the X factor, whatever he does well, is a positive.  What
do you think Sultan?

GGGG

I think Lockett gets in more trouble when he puts his head down and drives to the basket and not when he passes too much.

BCHoopster

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 20, 2013, 02:03:33 PM
I think Lockett gets in more trouble when he puts his head down and drives to the basket and not when he passes too much.

That is for sure, just has to play smarter and after 30 games, not sure he gets it.

M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 20, 2013, 02:03:33 PM
I think Lockett gets in more trouble when he puts his head down and drives to the basket and not when he passes too much.

Definately!  Puts his head down and then reacts to his jumpstop late because of it.

JD

Press, press and more press.  I haven't watched much Davidson ball, but i think if we press, play hard nose, man v man defense, we should cruise.  I just hope Chris and De'De' are prepared to run a lot.
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Sylvester78

Pressure and don't help.  We chase the ball and help too much sometimes.

Don't leave the traditionals wides open while doubling a guy who isn't a threat (like the ND game in  the Garden)

Only way we lose is if the get and make wide open three balls. Theres no way they can handle the length and athleticism Marquette posseses.  They have never seen anything like theyre going to today in their own conference.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Sylvester78 on March 21, 2013, 07:56:06 AM
Pressure and don't help.  We chase the ball and help too much sometimes.

Don't leave the traditionals wides open while doubling a guy who isn't a threat (like the ND game in  the Garden)

Only way we lose is if the get and make wide open three balls. Theres no way they can handle the length and athleticism Marquette posseses.  They have never seen anything like theyre going to today in their own conference.

I thought I was the only person who thought we over help, and leave teams to just pass the ball and take wide open looks.  Glad someone else sees it too.

Stretchdeltsig

I would put Blue on their best 3 point shooter and prevent him from getting the ball.  I would get their big 6'10" forward in foul trouble by paint touches and inside scoring.  Get him on the bench.  Go Marquette, win this game!

hairy worthen

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[quote author=Guns n Ammo link=topic=37271.msg471425#msg471425 date=13638

With all of this said, MU is better than Davidson, so it's time to just play better than Davidson. No tricks. Just be better.

[/quote]

This is it, exactly.

NavinRJohnson

Buzz will do what Buzz does...Shuffle guys in and out until he finds he right combination, and adjust as the game goes on. Unlike many here, he will not overreact to how bad it was in one game against ND, and deviate too far from how they typically play. We haven't been particularly good against 3-pt shooting all year, but that game was obviously particularly bad. It doesn't mean that you should suddenly focus all your energy on that 3-pt line.

College basketball is all about the 3-pt shot. That certainly isn't a new phenomenon since MU lost to ND, or got paired up against Davidson. Its also why Sweet 16 may be Mu's ceiling. Play how you play, and don't try to do anything drastically different.

LAMUfan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 21, 2013, 08:07:10 AM
I thought I was the only person who thought we over help, and leave teams to just pass the ball and take wide open looks.  Glad someone else sees it too.

This is an interesting article if you haven't read it, basically says players should be helping more in most situations... from a computer model that is

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9068903/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution

I'm with you though, get in there face and run them out of the gym

Hards Alumni

Quote from: LAMUfan on March 21, 2013, 08:19:21 AM
This is an interesting article if you haven't read it, basically says players should be helping more in most situations... from a computer model that is

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9068903/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution

I'm with you though, get in there face and run them out of the gym

I think that probably holds true for most teams... A lot of teams that have success against us seem to just pass it around until we over help and have open shots.

MDMU04

Guard the perimeter. Do it either with extended man to man or a high 3-2. Switch on screens with man to man.

We can afford to let them score from inside the arc because their offense will not be efficient enough to match what we should be able to do on offense.

I think Buzz will try to slow the game down and limit the number of times DU has the ball. If we are efficient on offense, draw fouls and most importantly limit unforced turnovers, Davidson simply will not have enough possessions to score as much as we should.

If we are sloppy with the ball or allow DU to shoot a high percentage from three, it will be close. If we defend the arc and take care of the ball, no sweat.
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Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 21, 2013, 08:07:10 AM
I thought I was the only person who thought we over help, and leave teams to just pass the ball and take wide open looks.  Glad someone else sees it too.

I see it too, but I think there is definitely a method to Buzz's madness.

I remember in the Marquette revealed videos a couple years ago Buzz was getting after Junior about how he was defending. I remember Buzz saying over and over "Sprint to help, if you slide, you'll be too late!"

MU plays man2man mostly, but there are specific principles to how they guard the ball and how they guard in different positions on the floor. It's not just about sticking with a guy. It's a bit like a zone with the way they guard guys away from the ball.

The good news is that I think MU is capable of playing good defense, but the bad news is that I think it's tougher to change on the fly because they are coached so hard on specific techniques. When you drill over and over, it's hard to suddenly change it.


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