RPI update

[ChicosBailBonds]

MU up to 23 with an expected finish of 26.  Predicted conference record of 12-6.  MU's schedule strength expected to finish 15th.  If we had played Ohio State, it would have finished 11th by my calculations.

For the Big East, the expected rankings have 7 teams in the top 45 which is normally a good bet to make it.  One is UCONN, and they are ineligible.  That leaves 6 if the predictions hold.

Notre Dame and Villanova both projected to finish between 50 and 60 which is danger territory, but certainly capable of making it.  That would put the conference at either 7 or 8.  Nova has to keep playing up to their latest and play to make it a better shot (obviously). 

St. John's projected at 70.6, that isn't going to get it done without them getting something going soon. 

[MuMark]

Actually it's 20

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/rpi

[buckchuckler]

Espn has us at 17

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi

[ChicosBailBonds]

Actually it's 20

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/rpi

Correct...20.  Had the wrong date.  Still projects us at 26.

[MUMountin]

I've been wondering about this--there are a number of sites that claim to have replicated the RPI formula and update it daily, but there seems to be disparity between them--anyone know why? 

[chapman]

Espn has us at 17

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi

18 on CBS

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/rpi/index1

[MuMark]

Nolan's is correct and updates his after games go final.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I've been wondering about this--there are a number of sites that claim to have replicated the RPI formula and update it daily, but there seems to be disparity between them--anyone know why? 

Most are within one spot.  Real Time RPI is often different by a large disparity.  I like Warren Nolan, but I like RPI Forecast and RPI Live better because of the additional tools they provide.

[Lennys Tap]

This is why RPI is useless. Anyone think that if the season ended today Miami would be a #1 seed? New Mexico seeded ahead of Syracuse and Indiana? Belmont ahead of Indiana and Ohio St? Illinois ahead of Wisconsin? Pure, unadulterated, meaningless crap.

[NavinRJohnson]

This is why RPI is useless...Pure, unadulterated, meaningless crap.

IT is one of several data points for the committee, nothing more. The last couple tournaments have shown that.

[bkooncy]

How is Belmont ahead of us in the CBS Rpi they have a SOS that is 34 compared to our 21.  Their loses came to Kansas ranked 2, VCU ranked 39, UCF ranked 104, and Northeastern ranked 109. Our losses Florida ranked 5, Butler ranked 10, Cincinnati ranked 27, and Greenbay ranked 163.  The average ranking of the losses Belmont 63.5, and Marquette 51.25.  Anyone know how this works?

[chapman]

How is Belmont ahead of us in the CBS Rpi they have a SOS that is 34 compared to our 21.  Their loses came to Kansas ranked 2, VCU ranked 39, UCF ranked 104, and Northeastern ranked 109. Our losses Florida ranked 5, Butler ranked 10, Cincinnati ranked 27, and Greenbay ranked 163.  The average ranking of the losses Belmont 63.5, and Marquette 51.25.  Anyone know how this works?

A couple of the many things that may influence the rating:
-Belmont has seven top 100 wins, we have five.
-Road wins are given more weight, and losses less.  Belmont has two top 100 road wins and one neutral top 100 win, we have one top 100 road win.

If we get a couple more BE wins against non-bottom feeders that should change.  Big East is #3 in conference RPI, just behind the MWC, while the Ohio Valley is 16th.  Belmont has also already played the second best RPI team in its conference (EKU) twice. 

[chapman]

Up to #17 as of last night/this morning.  Losses by NC State and Wichita State helping to bump that up.

[CAGASS24]

Top ten after we blow out Loserville?

[Benny B]

#1 - Don't get too bent out of shape on RPI at this juncture... it doesn't even come close to being reliable until all conference opponents have played each other at least once.

#2 - The committee has been overly focused on RPI more in the past two years relative to the last decade or so.  With the amount of parity in D-I this year, look for the committee to be even more focused on algorithms like RPI, Pomeroy, Sagarin, etc.

#3 - Related to the above, in an average year, Nova would be on the good side of the bubble with wins over UL and SU; however, this year they may get the shaft if they can't get their RPI into the 40s by March.

#4 - The variances in RPI mostly have to do with how up to date the numbers are... even though some may claim to be up to date on "games played through [date]," the reality is that some late games are often not included in the accumulation of records.  Additionally, some RPI calculations incorrectly include D-II games played in season (typically by low majors) - temporarily, though sometimes for several days - until someone catches or points out the inclusion of a game that should not be included.

[MU82]

Top ten after we blow out Loserville?

You think we're merely going to blow out Louisville? You're so negative. I say we're crushing them so badly they concede at halftime. Then they disband their program in shame.

[JakeBarnes]

You think we're merely going to blow out Louisville? You're so negative. I say we're crushing them so badly they concede at halftime. Then they disband their program in shame.

I wish they had done that 2 years ago...