Mayo

[MerrittsMustache]

Admittedly, I haven't read this whole thread so I apologize if this has been mentioned before.

If Todd hasn't been practicing well or putting in full effort, this was a good teaching point game. It's a meaningful conference game, but it's also at home against a weaker team. Sit Mayo down next to the coaches for 2 hours and show him that, while he's a valuable contributor, the team can, and did, win without him.

[MU B2002]

Toward the end of the Cincinnati gameTodd guarding Kilpatrick untill they switched Juan to him, not Vander which speaks very highly of Todd's defensive abilities.

I never said Todd couldn't play solid Defense, and also never said Vander drew that assignment.

Also, in the minutes spent guarding him, did Kilpatrick ever move more than 10 feet?  I swear he simply stood there with Todd and watched the others play 4 on 4.

[bkooncy]

I never said Todd couldn't play solid Defense, and also never said Vander drew that assignment.

Also, in the minutes spent guarding him, did Kilpatrick ever move more than 10 feet?  I swear he simply stood there with Todd and watched the others play 4 on 4.

I never said you did say that, however wouldn't you want your best on ball defender to gaurd him?  But you are right he did just stand there for a good portion of time.  Don't you think that was Buzz's goal, to put Mayo in his pocket and make someone else from Cincy beat us?

[GGGG]

I never said you did say that, however wouldn't you want your best on ball defender to gaurd him?

I didn't see the entire game.  Who was Vander guarding throughout the game?  Sometimes sticking with what you have been doing throughout the game is better than making too many changes.

[NersEllenson]

Is the whole reasoning behind this argument, the fact that you don't like Vander?   Because that's what I am getting.

Todd will get minutes, but he won't be taking them from Vander considering the offense and defense Blue brings to the table. And yes, the UW effort from May in December of 2011 was fantastic, but that was almost 14 months ago.  Quite a bit has has happened since then. Agree?

Nope - I wouldn't cut Vander's minutes and give them to Todd this year by any stretch of the imagination.  Vander's proven me big time wrong this year.  Now last year...yes, I would have liked to see Todd get a few more minutes over Vander per game.  I'm simply saying that Todd THUS far has had very limited runs of 5-7 minutes at a time in a game...and it is hard to get in a rhythm playing 2-3 minute stints...and we've yet to see what he can do if given 30 minutes per game consistently.

Would just like to see him get a consistent 30 minutes per game - reducing the minutes of Lockett, and a few from Juan/Jamil - and get back to telling Vander to be an aggressive rebounding guard...which he certainly hasn't been this year...as Lockett seems to be in that role...(assuming such a role is carved out), usually you only worry about having your point guard back/to be a complete non factor in offensive rebounding.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Didn't Buzz call Mayo out best defender last year? Also, the fact that it took three years for Blue to take a charge indicates people on this board over state his defensive prowess

[GGGG]

Didn't Buzz call Mayo out best defender last year? Also, the fact that it took three years for Blue to take a charge indicates people on this board over state his defensive prowess

Nonsense.  For a guy playing the perimeter, taking a change is a terrible way to determine how good a defensive player he is.  How many has Mayo taken?

[nyg]

OK, five pages reference Mr. Mayo.

Who thinks he plays or sits tonight? 

[Tugg Speedman]

I'll start a poll!

[nyg]

I'll start a poll!

based on prediction question, no one taking him for anything....

[LloydMooresLegs]

based on prediction question, no one taking him for anything....

Well played...nobody here (I hope) wants to see Todd [verb form of Mayo] anything.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Nope - I wouldn't cut Vander's minutes and give them to Todd this year by any stretch of the imagination.  Vander's proven me big time wrong this year.  Now last year...yes, I would have liked to see Todd get a few more minutes over Vander per game.  I'm simply saying that Todd THUS far has had very limited runs of 5-7 minutes at a time in a game...and it is hard to get in a rhythm playing 2-3 minute stints...and we've yet to see what he can do if given 30 minutes per game consistently.

Would just like to see him get a consistent 30 minutes per game - reducing the minutes of Lockett, and a few from Juan/Jamil - and get back to telling Vander to be an aggressive rebounding guard...which he certainly hasn't been this year...as Lockett seems to be in that role...(assuming such a role is carved out), usually you only worry about having your point guard back/to be a complete non factor in offensive rebounding.

Todd will get 30min per game when his play warrants it. Right now, in the minutes he's getting, he's not that good. If he was shredding practice, Buzz would probably try to find him more minutes. I don't see practice, so I don't know... but I assume Buzz is 100x smarter than me.

I like Todd, but his entire body of work doesn't earn him an automatic 30min. He's going to have to earn more min. in the role he's got.

He's a good role player (right now) with some good upside. No more. No less.

By March, he might be a bigger contributor. But, for now, he's getting what he has earned.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Todd Mayo is a helluva player.  He's shown that he's a gamer that we need on the court when the game is on the line!

[NersEllenson]

Todd will get 30min per game when his play warrants it. Right now, in the minutes he's getting, he's not that good. If he was shredding practice, Buzz would probably try to find him more minutes. I don't see practice, so I don't know... but I assume Buzz is 100x smarter than me.

I like Todd, but his entire body of work doesn't earn him an automatic 30min. He's going to have to earn more min. in the role he's got.

He's a good role player (right now) with some good upside. No more. No less.

By March, he might be a bigger contributor. But, for now, he's getting what he has earned.

Todd has more upside and potential to contribute than does Trent Lockett.  But, Lockett is a transfer senior, who Buzz loves as a person, and I'm sure he feels a degree of obligation to give him benefit of the doubt minutes...particularly if his attitude is better..which it probably is.  Nonetheless, still think Todd would give the team more than Lockett...this year....and of course for next year (assuming he's back).

[ChicosBailBonds]

I applaud Buzz for sticking with Lockett....lights out kid, great head on his shoulders, doing things the right way.

Mayo has some growing up still to do and riding some pine will help facilitate that.

[🏀]

I applaud Buzz for sticking with Lockett....lights out kid, great head on his shoulders, doing things the right way.

Mayo has some growing up still to do and riding some pine will help facilitate that.

Buzz had a real great radio comment tonight in regards to players growing into their roles. How After the Amigos, everyone thought the cupboard was empty then Lazar, Mo and Cuby stepped up. Then JFB, then Jae and DJO. Now its Vander.

Todd is learning the way. He will be there when Marquette needs him to be there.

[wojosdojo]

I just looked at the stats....

Todd is sixth on the team in mpg...at 18 per - behind Blue, Cadougan, Lockett, Wilson and Gardner.  And this is after he missed the first half of the season.

And people are complaining about his minutes??

The last two games got me worrying.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Todd has more upside and potential to contribute than does Trent Lockett.  But, Lockett is a transfer senior, who Buzz loves as a person, and I'm sure he feels a degree of obligation to give him benefit of the doubt minutes...particularly if his attitude is better..which it probably is.  Nonetheless, still think Todd would give the team more than Lockett...this year....and of course for next year (assuming he's back).

Well, this is where we fundamentally disagree. 

Todd has shown some brief flashes (UW game, NCAA last year), but he has also had long stretches of poor play (Big East last season).

So, which is the "real Todd"?... the guy who shoots 20% during conference play, or the guy who knocked down key 3pters in the NCAA tourney?

I feel like you keep seeing the positive, but don't really account for his struggles and excuse them simply as "Todd doesn't get enough minutes" or now it's something about Trent Lockett being a senior.

Todd's performance doesn't have anything to do with Trent Lockett. When Todd's in the game, he's not very effective.

Steve Taylor is playing his way into the line-up. Todd is playing his way out. That's what is happening right now. Could be different in 2 weeks. Todd should get better with more practice time.

Todd Mayo is a role player coming off of a suspension. It's not a sin to say that he's not playing well.

[ATWizJr]

Todd has more upside and potential to contribute than does Trent Lockett.  But, Lockett is a transfer senior, who Buzz loves as a person, and I'm sure he feels a degree of obligation to give him benefit of the doubt minutes...particularly if his attitude is better..which it probably is.  Nonetheless, still think Todd would give the team more than Lockett...this year....and of course for next year (assuming he's back).

This says more about unfulfilled expectations we all had for Lockett than it does about Todd.

[GGGG]

Todd has more upside and potential to contribute than does Trent Lockett.  But, Lockett is a transfer senior, who Buzz loves as a person, and I'm sure he feels a degree of obligation to give him benefit of the doubt minutes...particularly if his attitude is better..which it probably is.  Nonetheless, still think Todd would give the team more than Lockett...this year....and of course for next year (assuming he's back).

Buzz isn't giving Trent minutes out of some sort of sense of obligation, or because he likes him as a person.  He's giving him minutes because he is playing well.  He rebounds well for his position, and does two or three things a game that are generally what senior players with experience do well.

Stop making excuses for why Todd isn't on the floor.  Buzz is a good basketball coach, and he isn't getting time for basketball-related reasons.

[GGGG]

Well, this is where we fundamentally disagree. 

Todd has shown some brief flashes (UW game, NCAA last year), but he has also had long stretches of poor play (Big East last season).

So, which is the "real Todd"?... the guy who shoots 20% during conference play, or the guy who knocked down key 3pters in the NCAA tourney?

I feel like you keep seeing the positive, but don't really account for his struggles and excuse them simply as "Todd doesn't get enough minutes" or now it's something about Trent Lockett being a senior.

Todd's performance doesn't have anything to do with Trent Lockett. When Todd's in the game, he's not very effective.

Steve Taylor is playing his way into the line-up. Todd is playing his way out. That's what is happening right now. Could be different in 2 weeks. Todd should get better with more practice time.

Todd Mayo is a role player coming off of a suspension. It's not a sin to say that he's not playing well.

This.  Exactly.  Not only Steve Taylor, but Juan Anderson is playing very well.

[MU82]

Well, this is where we fundamentally disagree. 

Todd has shown some brief flashes (UW game, NCAA last year), but he has also had long stretches of poor play (Big East last season).

So, which is the "real Todd"?... the guy who shoots 20% during conference play, or the guy who knocked down key 3pters in the NCAA tourney?

I feel like you keep seeing the positive, but don't really account for his struggles and excuse them simply as "Todd doesn't get enough minutes" or now it's something about Trent Lockett being a senior.

Todd's performance doesn't have anything to do with Trent Lockett. When Todd's in the game, he's not very effective.

Steve Taylor is playing his way into the line-up. Todd is playing his way out. That's what is happening right now. Could be different in 2 weeks. Todd should get better with more practice time.

Todd Mayo is a role player coming off of a suspension. It's not a sin to say that he's not playing well.

Excellent observation. Throw in the off-the-court stuff, and the coach is doing what he feels helps the team the best.

As I said a few minutes ago in another thread, Lockett is starting to grow on me. Does a couple of "little things" well every game, the kind of things that helps a team win, and coaches appreciate those more than fans do. Lockett isn't the best athlete and he obviously isn't as good as most of us wanted him to be when we heard he was transferring here, but he is helping the team win, which is why Buzz is playing him.