The Marquette Effect

[brewcity77]

So yesterday I was checking out a bit of John Dawson's profile on ESPN.com. While I don't always put great stock in their ratings, they do a nice job with player profiles, strengths, and weaknesses. Perhaps what stood out most was that Dawson was only rated a 69 and a 2-star prospect.

Then comes today, when Dawson committed to Marquette. I again went over to ESPN to review Dawson's profile and saw that he is now listed as a 3-star prospect with a rating of 70. Apparently committing to Buzz and Marquette has some value for lower prospects. I wish I had a screenshot but I was only on my phone at work and have since closed that tab.

I suppose this means a few things. First and foremost, that ESPN's ratings are just that much more bunk. I don't care who a player commits to, a guy doesn't simply get better because of the school he committed to. He had the same game yesterday he had today, and the same offer from Marquette yesterday he has today. The only difference is he said yes. But it also means that Buzz is starting to get some recruiting cache. Hitting on mid-level prospects like Gardner and Mayo seems to be helping his reputation.

Either way, the general consensus seems to be that Dawson deserves 3-star consideration as a prospect, and that Buzz doesn't make offers to bad players. I look forward to John coming to Marquette and hope he can be another diamond in the rough that proves to be a player for us.

[kmwtrucks]

I look at it, that no one really updated anything recently.  They have profiles on 2000 recruits the guys rated highest get updated the most.  Maybe they did not update him for 2-3 months even if they have seem him or heard a bit about him.  Or they have not and made some calls to other people who have seen him and taken there input into account.  I don't think bumping someone from a high 2 star to a low 3 and an extra 1 point on the rating scale is much of a bump. 

I bet as a normal course they reveiw a ranking after someone commits to a HM.

[BCHoopster]

So yesterday I was checking out a bit of John Dawson's profile on ESPN.com. While I don't always put great stock in their ratings, they do a nice job with player profiles, strengths, and weaknesses. Perhaps what stood out most was that Dawson was only rated a 69 and a 2-star prospect.

Then comes today, when Dawson committed to Marquette. I again went over to ESPN to review Dawson's profile and saw that he is now listed as a 3-star prospect with a rating of 70. Apparently committing to Buzz and Marquette has some value for lower prospects. I wish I had a screenshot but I was only on my phone at work and have since closed that tab.

I suppose this means a few things. First and foremost, that ESPN's ratings are just that much more bunk. I don't care who a player commits to, a guy doesn't simply get better because of the school he committed to. He had the same game yesterday he had today, and the same offer from Marquette yesterday he has today. The only difference is he said yes. But it also means that Buzz is starting to get some recruiting cache. Hitting on mid-level prospects like Gardner and Mayo seems to be helping his reputation.

Either way, the general consensus seems to be that Dawson deserves 3-star consideration as a prospect, and that Buzz doesn't make offers to bad players. I look forward to John coming to Marquette and hope he can be another diamond in the rough that proves to be a player for us.


Brew city, your point is well excepted, the star system is very good for maybe the top 20 kids and you can see why they are 4 or 5 star recruits.  When you here about a 3 star that can be the
next 80 kids or so out of the top 100.  Maybe out of those 80, 40 become decent starters and the other 40 are just on teams.  even the 40 that make a difference on a team there might be 5
that move on.  You need 3 star kids to make up a roster.  MU does not get one and done kids, DWade left early, with his injury I am not sure we was even a 2 star.  But I will say this about DWade, I saw him in an All-Star game that summer and I was truly impressed, to say, wow, this is the next superstar at MU.  Dawsons biggest issue, is that he plays against probably average
talent at best in summer and school year.  Next June when he shows up at MU, it will be a whole new basketball experience for him.  I say it takes a year just to get going on the same page of
the competition he will be up against.