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Author Topic: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)  (Read 9610 times)

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2012, 10:52:26 PM »
Steve's experience this fall will potentially influence Nunn. No doubt the two will talk. It's like having inside info on a new job.

I think Nunn'll commit before the season begins.. but, if Buzz comes out with the Karate attire during Marquette Madness we've probably got him all locked up.

Wonder if Buzz has been thinking about Kendrick a lot.  A whole lot.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2012, 07:42:29 AM »
I'm going to rule out guys that will pretty much exclusively be forwards, and try a rough projection of the starting lineup based on who we know will be here. Basically, trying to break down the available minutes. Here is the scholarship table as Nunn will see it:

Freshman Year (2013-14)
Seniors: Vander Blue, Jake Thomas (walk-on)
Juniors: Juan Anderson, Derrick Wilson, Todd Mayo
Sophomores: Jamal Ferguson
Freshmen: Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson
Expected Starting Lineup: Blue, Mayo, Taylor, McKay, Gardner

We don't really have a true point in this lineup. I could see Derrick Wilson also starting as a junior point, most likely pushing Taylor to the bench behind McKay. But if I'm Kendrick Nunn, there's a lot of time here behind Blue, Mayo, and Taylor. So far, of the other players off the bench, only Juan Anderson has played for Marquette, and Nunn is higher rated than anyone save the freshmen he'd be coming in with. Looking at guys like Vander Blue and Todd Mayo in recent years, the opportunity for instant meaningful minutes will be there.

Sophomore Year (2014-15)

Seniors: Juan Anderson, Derrick Wilson, Todd Mayo
Juniors: Jamal Ferguson
Sophomores: Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson
Expected Starting Lineup: Wilson (?), Mayo, Anderson, Taylor, McKay

This year is much more wide open. Which Wilson will start at the point? Will Mayo be here? Will Burton start ahead of Anderson and Ferguson? Either way, if I were Nunn, I would look at this as a year I could potentially move into the starting lineup. Even if he didn't start, he would probably be one of the first off the bench. I think he'd have every opportunity to get 20+ mpg this season whether he started or not.

Junior Year (2015-16)

Seniors: Jamal Ferguson
Juniors: Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson
Expected Starting Lineup: Wilson, Ferguson, Burton, Looney, Stone

Okay, a bit of dreaming here, but we obviously know very little about this year. Either way, the opportunity would completely be there for Nunn to be starting his junior and senior year, if he wasn't already as a sophomore. He would potentially be one of many stars on a star-studded team.

I don't know how much time will be available elsewhere over his first three years, but I could easily see him going from 2nd or 3rd off the bench to spot starter to star within three years.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2012, 08:00:05 AM »
I can't imagine Buzz starting Ox, McKay, and Taylor without a true point guard on the floor.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2012, 08:59:57 AM »
I'm going to rule out guys that will pretty much exclusively be forwards, and try a rough projection of the starting lineup based on who we know will be here. Basically, trying to break down the available minutes. Here is the scholarship table as Nunn will see it:

Freshman Year (2013-14)
Seniors: Vander Blue, Jake Thomas (walk-on)
Juniors: Juan Anderson, Derrick Wilson, Todd Mayo
Sophomores: Jamal Ferguson
Freshmen: Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson
Expected Starting Lineup: Blue, Mayo, Taylor, McKay, Gardner

We don't really have a true point in this lineup. I could see Derrick Wilson also starting as a junior point, most likely pushing Taylor to the bench behind McKay. But if I'm Kendrick Nunn, there's a lot of time here behind Blue, Mayo, and Taylor. So far, of the other players off the bench, only Juan Anderson has played for Marquette, and Nunn is higher rated than anyone save the freshmen he'd be coming in with. Looking at guys like Vander Blue and Todd Mayo in recent years, the opportunity for instant meaningful minutes will be there.

Sophomore Year (2014-15)

Seniors: Juan Anderson, Derrick Wilson, Todd Mayo
Juniors: Jamal Ferguson
Sophomores: Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson
Expected Starting Lineup: Wilson (?), Mayo, Anderson, Taylor, McKay

This year is much more wide open. Which Wilson will start at the point? Will Mayo be here? Will Burton start ahead of Anderson and Ferguson? Either way, if I were Nunn, I would look at this as a year I could potentially move into the starting lineup. Even if he didn't start, he would probably be one of the first off the bench. I think he'd have every opportunity to get 20+ mpg this season whether he started or not.

Junior Year (2015-16)

Seniors: Jamal Ferguson
Juniors: Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson
Expected Starting Lineup: Wilson, Ferguson, Burton, Looney, Stone

Okay, a bit of dreaming here, but we obviously know very little about this year. Either way, the opportunity would completely be there for Nunn to be starting his junior and senior year, if he wasn't already as a sophomore. He would potentially be one of many stars on a star-studded team.

I don't know how much time will be available elsewhere over his first three years, but I could easily see him going from 2nd or 3rd off the bench to spot starter to star within three years.

I like how you assume Jamil Wilson goes pro after this year. Me too!

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2012, 09:02:23 AM »
I can't imagine Buzz starting Ox, McKay, and Taylor without a true point guard on the floor.

Not to mention Jamil Wilson being left out. The roster is loaded with guys that can potentially start.  Personally,  I think Duane Wilson will start at PG as a Frosh.  Regardless,  if Nunn is the real deal (and is a premier shooter) he will see significant minutes on a VERY good team as a Frosh.

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2012, 09:27:03 AM »
Nunn is rated higher than both Wilson and Burton.  Door is completely open for playing time.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2012, 09:32:26 AM »
I think Nunn'll commit before the season begins.. but, if Buzz comes out with the Karate attire during Marquette Madness we've probably got him all locked up.

Wonder if Buzz has been thinking about Kendrick a lot.  A whole lot.

I certainly hope he has been.

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2012, 09:40:31 AM »
I would expect Buzz to lock up that stud JUCO point guard who Kansas and Louisville are also involved in (can't remember his name off the top of my head) and that takes care of the starting PG for next year and the year after.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2012, 09:49:03 AM »
I would expect Buzz to lock up that stud JUCO point guard who Kansas and Louisville are also involved in (can't remember his name off the top of my head) and that takes care of the starting PG for next year and the year after.

Chris Jones. He might be a more important "get" than Nunn.  PG is the only real question mark in 2 years and he would solidify the position.  He will be in a race with Jameel McKay for JUCO POY.

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2012, 09:51:31 AM »
I like how you assume Jamil Wilson goes pro after this year. Me too!

D'oh! From a starting lineup perspective, you're right he should be ahead of Taylor. But from KN's perspective, it wouldn't change the scholarships. He won't be competing with Wilson, Taylor, or Ox for minutes.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2012, 09:54:13 AM »
D'oh! From a starting lineup perspective, you're right he should be ahead of Taylor. But from KN's perspective, it wouldn't change the scholarships. He won't be competing with Wilson, Taylor, or Ox for minutes.

I know, and I kid, but I really do hope Jamil blows up and goes pro after this season.  It will mean a.) he likely carried us on a deep tournament run, and b.) Kevon Looney looks at the string of players dominating at the position he will play and MU becomes more enticing, however long a shot we may be

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2012, 11:42:31 AM »
Rankings will not determine who starts.

Of course not, but the point is that he will be competing against other freshmen for minutes, freshmen he's supposed to be better than, so the minutes are there for the taking.

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2012, 11:49:24 AM »
Chris Jones. He might be a more important "get" than Nunn.  PG is the only real question mark in 2 years and he would solidify the position.  He will be in a race with Jameel McKay for JUCO POY.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2012, 11:50:33 AM »
Of course not, but the point is that he will be competing against other freshmen for minutes, freshmen he's supposed to be better than, so the minutes are there for the taking.

Thanks....didn't think I would have to explain that, but apparently so....
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2012, 12:41:13 PM »
Wonder if Buzz has been thinking about Kendrick a lot.  A whole lot.

I certainly hope he has been.

With the way players leave, you can never have enough of them coming in.

Then you should avoid likely creeping them out.  Refer to the "Maybe Buzz should get on Twitter?" thread.
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2012, 02:13:55 PM »
Doesn't Duane Wilson solidify the PG position?

MU is obviously much more solid with Duane on board,  but that is still only 2 PG's on the roster.  I think Duane can be a starter as a Frosh (and good),  but that is asking a lot from a first year player.  Derrick should be a decent backup and has a higher ceiling than that,  but IMO Duane would see more minutes with that roster.  MU will need to have guys on the floor to hit outside shots.  I know a lot of people want/expect to see Vander playing PG as well,  which would give MU 3 guys that can play PG,  but let's be honest,  Vander has not shown to have the ability to play there at this point. TO machine.

So as of right now MU will have 2....MAYBE 3 PG's that will have very minimal experience.  The JUCO kid would come in as a Junior with some good experience.  I don't think MU absolutely needs another PG,  but I think it's the position that is the weakest for that year.  Every other position looks rock solid.  However,  perhaps Nunn is being recruited as a combo guard.  If Buzz thinks Nunn can play some PG then I may prefer him to the JUCO PG.  If he can keep the TO's to a minimum and hit outside shots,  he could really be deadly on that roster as a scoring PG/SG (along with Duane).
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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2012, 03:46:17 PM »
Simeon Career Academy in Chicago is known distinctly for two players: Bulls guard and former NBA MVP Derrick Rose and current 2013 No. 1 overall ranked Jabari Parker. Kendrick Nunn, a 6-foot-1 guard, could soon be next.

ESPN's No. 54 ranked player in the class, Nunn is a quick and athletic combo guard. His forte is shooting, as he can knock down baskets from nearly every spot on the floor with ease. Almost every major school is hoping for his commitment, and on Friday he narrowed his list to five: Illinois, Marquette, Memphis, Ohio State and UCLA.

Which is the best fit? Speculation here, but Marquette could work out well. He'd fill a positional need in ESPN's No. 5 recruiting class, as it has a point guard (Duane Wilson), small forward (Deonte Burton) and power forward (JUCO standout Jameel McKay) already committed.

It's also hard not to read too much into his father's recent comments. Melvin Nunn told ESPN.com he has a "platinum" relationship with Golden Eagles' coach Buzz Williams.

"[Kendrick] loves the way Buzz coaches and gives attention to his players," Melvin said. "I think he fell in love with Marquette the game we attended. He likes the way Buzz coaches. They're in a great place to continue to win. Coming from a winning program like Simeon, you want to keep that going."

What is interesting about Nunn's announcement is the absence of Kentucky from his list. The guard was reportedly very high on the Wildcats, and was seeking a scholarship offer, but it would appear the SEC program has moved to other 2013 prospects.

One school that could be a potential darkhorse is Illinois. We have written about recently hired assistant coach Paris Parham, who has a strong relationship with Chicago-area high school and AAU coaches. The Illini are looking for some backcourt depth, hoping to add pieces to complement Tracy Abrams, and could make a hard recruiting push for Nunn.

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2012, 03:58:10 PM »
Hope Nunn comes to MU. Will get lots of playing time. Question: UCLA offered Stone. The article has him at 6-10 253 lbs. Don't think so. COMMENT: Montee Ball cover up--Think Bielema messed up. Doesn't want Ball in any trouble since it could hurt his Heisman chances. Madison blew it again. What's new?

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2012, 05:24:15 PM »
Simeon Career Academy in Chicago is known distinctly for two players: Bulls guard and former NBA MVP Derrick Rose and current 2013 No. 1 overall ranked Jabari Parker. Kendrick Nunn, a 6-foot-1 guard, could soon be next.

ESPN's No. 54 ranked player in the class, Nunn is a quick and athletic combo guard. His forte is shooting, as he can knock down baskets from nearly every spot on the floor with ease. Almost every major school is hoping for his commitment, and on Friday he narrowed his list to five: Illinois, Marquette, Memphis, Ohio State and UCLA.

Which is the best fit? Speculation here, but Marquette could work out well. He'd fill a positional need in ESPN's No. 5 recruiting class, as it has a point guard (Duane Wilson), small forward (Deonte Burton) and power forward (JUCO standout Jameel McKay) already committed.

It's also hard not to read too much into his father's recent comments. Melvin Nunn told ESPN.com he has a "platinum" relationship with Golden Eagles' coach Buzz Williams.

"[Kendrick] loves the way Buzz coaches and gives attention to his players," Melvin said. "I think he fell in love with Marquette the game we attended. He likes the way Buzz coaches. They're in a great place to continue to win. Coming from a winning program like Simeon, you want to keep that going."

What is interesting about Nunn's announcement is the absence of Kentucky from his list. The guard was reportedly very high on the Wildcats, and was seeking a scholarship offer, but it would appear the SEC program has moved to other 2013 prospects.

One school that could be a potential darkhorse is Illinois. We have written about recently hired assistant coach Paris Parham, who has a strong relationship with Chicago-area high school and AAU coaches. The Illini are looking for some backcourt depth, hoping to add pieces to complement Tracy Abrams, and could make a hard recruiting push for Nunn.

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I think Melvin digs MU more than Kendrick. I think Melvin realizes MU isn't the sexy choice—but it may be the right choice for his son. I think Kendrick is holding out for the exciting, exotic supermodel who will break his heart...rather than the cute girl next door with the nice personality.

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Re: Kendrick Nunn's Top 5 (Marquette in good spot)
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2012, 06:23:43 PM »
I think Melvin digs MU more than Kendrick. I think Melvin realizes MU isn't the sexy choice—but it may be the right choice for his son. I think Kendrick is holding out for the exciting, exotic supermodel who will break his heart...rather than the cute girl next door with the nice personality.

You bang the super model and then marry the girl next door....which is what he's doing. Good work Ken, wise beyond your years.