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Quote from: murespect on April 05, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
It all depends on matchups, and I don't see how MU only had a 15% chance of making the final four once they were in the sweet 16.  They only had to win two games, one against a lower seeded team and one against a team we had already beaten (and also a lower seed).  I would think our chances of winning both of those games were better than 15%.

While being lower seeded, Florida had a higher overall Pomeroy ranking than us, making the game about a tossup.  So figure a 47% chance of winning the first game and then either another 50% game with UL or an underdog game vs MSU (we would have been about a 35% dog).  Yes, odds would have improved once we made the E8, but then again...
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Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 05, 2012, 08:42:11 AM
Burton has a reasonable chance to be a burger boy and would be on the team in two years.

Should we start making the banner now?


Dude was only 3rd team all area.
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How'bout discussing whether Buzz will be the coach in a couple of years?
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Got to love JS in having Burton Third Team today. It is unbelievable on they do things over there. Makes no difference to me if he was ninth team because he can play. Your boy Looney got nice props and well deserved.

What's your take on Buzz in two years funny guy?

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Goose on April 05, 2012, 02:11:55 PM
4ever
Got to love JS in having Burton Third Team today. It is unbelievable on they do things over there. Makes no difference to me if he was ninth team because he can play. Your boy Looney got nice props and well deserved.

What's your take on Buzz in two years funny guy?

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/showalters-bring-honors-to-the-family-vn4rj03-146218905.html

Looney 1st team as a SOPHOMORE and Wilson 1st team as a junior.  Nice that we already have one, would be HUGE to get the other.  Also, it might be due to the depth they're standing at but Looney looks a full 2-3 inches taller than Tokoto, who is listed at 6'6" everywhere I've seen.  Would be really nice to see him in an MU uni.

4everwarriors

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Quote from: Jamailman on April 05, 2012, 02:28:53 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/showalters-bring-honors-to-the-family-vn4rj03-146218905.html

Looney 1st team as a SOPHOMORE and Wilson 1st team as a junior.  Nice that we already have one, would be HUGE to get the other.  Also, it might be due to the depth they're standing at but Looney looks a full 2-3 inches taller than Tokoto, who is listed at 6'6" everywhere I've seen.  Would be really nice to see him in an MU uni.

I don't think it's the depth, I think Looney has 2-3 inches on him.

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Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 05, 2012, 01:03:09 PM

Dude was only 3rd team all area.

Dude was also not ruled eligible to play by the WIAA until after Christmas, over a month into the season. Add in the transition time it took to get into the flow of things with his new team after being ruled eligible to play, and 3rd Team All Area is actually a pretty incredible accomplishment.

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Think 4ever knew the reason why third team. The kid was first team and circumstances affected his place.

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Quote from: murespect on April 05, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
It all depends on matchups, and I don't see how MU only had a 15% chance of making the final four once they were in the sweet 16.  They only had to win two games, one against a lower seeded team and one against a team we had already beaten (and also a lower seed).  I would think our chances of winning both of those games were better than 15%.

I believe the 15% is right.  I believe at the outset of the Sweet 16, Pomeroy gave us a 47% chance as the #18 team playing #12 Florida, and then we were around 32% against #3 Michigan State.  I believe Michigan State was one of only two Sweet 16 games Pomeroy got wrong, with Wisconsin just missing making him 7 of 8 since he did pick Florida over us.

Anyway, you multiply .47 X .32 and you get a .15 chance of winning both games.

Which leads me to the interesting fact for preseason and stat skeptics that Pomeroy's pre-SEASON rankings had the Final Four ranked 1, 2, 8, and 11.  Better than the AP, etc., and if Ohio State had held on he would have had the 1-2 correct in the preseason, which NO voter in the AP had right.
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