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Jables1604

Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2025, 12:47:10 PMIt's going to be very frustrating watching other teams who take transfers keep outshining us. Time will tell until Shaka's hand gets forced or he gets forced out of town.
Not exactly analogous but for quite some time Coach K preached he would not recruit kids that were one and done. I may be wrong but I think he mentioned something about not "renting" players. He pivoted from that mantra pretty quickly as the college basketball landscape changed.

The Sultan

Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2025, 12:47:10 PMIt's going to be very frustrating watching other teams who take transfers keep outshining us. Time will tell until Shaka's hand gets forced or he gets forced out of town.

Or he may just keep on being successful.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

#UnleashSean

Quote from: DoctorV on March 15, 2025, 08:05:49 AMA buddy of mine who is a big ncaab junky, and not a big MU fan (UNC), said to me when I met up with him at the Maryland game that Royce Parham would fetch a lot in NIL at the end of the season and could transfer.

It really caught me by surprise because it was so early in the season that my first thought was "why would he mention Royce and not Damarius?"

So I asked, and he said that teams like UNC who spend a lot in the portal really value stretch 4s that can shoot, those guys are much harder to find than prolific guards.

He was right about Parham fetching a lot in NIL, but he was wrong that he would leave.
Marquette will take care of Royce, and all of its other guys, and keep them in Milwaukee.

Someone that has a big future roll will leave at some point and scoop will meltdown, but with the minutes availability and the opportunity to grab a key roll in a Shaka led team- the way he sticks with his guys- I find it hard to believe that someone of big importance would leave this offseason.
There would have to be a perceived logjam, which would mean Marquette would have to be super stacked with talent, so sign me up for that


With the article that came out with Shaka, I don't think players from marquette being bought out by othe programs will be a shocking thing.

Hopefully they all really have bought in to the program.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2025, 12:47:10 PMIt's going to be very frustrating watching other teams who take transfers keep outshining us. Time will tell until Shaka's hand gets forced or he gets forced out of town.

😂

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 16, 2025, 01:14:18 PMWith the article that came out with Shaka, I don't think players from marquette being bought out by othe programs will be a shocking thing.

Hopefully they all really have bought in to the program.

Why hasn't it happened yet?

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2025, 12:47:10 PMIt's going to be very frustrating watching other teams who take transfers keep outshining us. Time will tell until Shaka's hand gets forced or he gets forced out of town.

There are more programs taking on transfers that we are ahead of, than programs taking on transfers that we are behind...by triple digits.
VIOLENCE!

AlienWarrior

It's going to be very frustrating watching other teams who take transfers keep outshining us. Time will tell until Shaka's hand gets forced or he gets forced out of town.

The Sultan

Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2025, 07:57:25 PMIt's going to be very frustrating watching other teams who take transfers keep outshining us. Time will tell until Shaka's hand gets forced or he gets forced out of town.

Why do you keep saying this?

Why can't you at least mention that he could keep succeeding doing it this way?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 16, 2025, 07:57:25 PMIt's going to be very frustrating watching other teams who take transfers keep outshining us. Time will tell until Shaka's hand gets forced or he gets forced out of town.

😂

RJax55

Quote from: The Sultan on March 16, 2025, 08:11:31 PMWhy do you keep saying this?

Why can't you at least mention that he could keep succeeding doing it this way?

Man, our fanbase sucks. Nothing but worrying about next season or constant complaints over what Shaka is doing despite success.

We deserve a Georgetown or DePaul run of irrelevance.

Newsdreams

Quote from: RJax55 on March 16, 2025, 08:24:52 PMMan, our fanbase sucks. Nothing but worrying about next season or constant complaints over what Shaka is doing despite success.

We deserve a Georgetown or DePaul run of irrelevance.
I tell you I'm concerned about 2028
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

tower912

Quote from: RJax55 on March 16, 2025, 08:24:52 PMMan, our fanbase sucks. Nothing but worrying about next season or constant complaints over what Shaka is doing despite success.

We deserve a Georgetown or DePaul run of irrelevance.
It is a fascinating dynamic.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 16, 2025, 01:30:37 PMWhy hasn't it happened yet?

We could go the family route and say they all collectively love it here. And I hope that's right. But only time will tell.

As for why it hasn't happened yet? Openly luring players with bags of cash is very very new. Like systems not being setup at all new. Outside of that, the most likely candidates last year were Kam, Ben, Stevie, and Ross.

Kam stays home and becomes the super hero. He probably wasn't leaving a for sure thing to play elsewhere for a year.

Ben has legal issues from NIL. Not sure the limits, but it's been talked about.

Stevie: another guy leaving a sure thing for a year. He probably doesn't lure anywhere near the money Kam or Ben would be.

Ross: might love it here? I have no reasons why Ross wouldn't chase after a bag of cash other than he enjoys being here.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: RJax55 on March 16, 2025, 08:24:52 PMMan, our fanbase sucks. Nothing but worrying about next season or constant complaints over what Shaka is doing despite success.

We deserve a Georgetown or DePaul run of irrelevance.

Did you slumber for 7 years or something?

FairWeatherEagle

Hope the bubble doesn't burst on MU in a bad way. I want to see the same guys next year.

RJax55

Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 16, 2025, 09:57:32 PMDid you slumber for 7 years or something?

DePaul or Georgetown would kill for the Wojo years right now.

But, you proved my point. After 7 years of Wojo, would you think people would have a greater appreciation for what Shaka has accomplished. But, here we are on Selection Sundays of all days, I'm reading post after post complaining about his approach.

mug644

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Quote from: Warrior of Law on March 14, 2025, 10:46:01 PMAdmittedly, I don't have much understanding of NIL. However, I don't see any of next year's roster being worthy of anything beyond what they've agreed to. The point being, MU's negotiating power is at an all-time high with regards to the returning players including Ross and Gold. In brief, the returning players have little value on the market. This flexibility should provide MU with the resources to rebuild quickly.

Sorry to go back to the original post, but it implies something that I've not really heard about with NIL. We talk about how players might chase a bag to earn more money via NIL by transferring, and we talk about players that transfer (most often down) to  earn more playing time.

I've not read, though, about a player's NIL package changing/decreasing because their play has not been "worthy of anything beyond what they've agreed to." I know that there is really only limited reliable information about any player's NIL deal, but does anyone have a sense that a package is year-to-year, such that a package might be decreased for a lack of performance? I totally get how a guy could earn more, but I expect/hope that a school/collection/major donor would NOT decrease someone's NIL package because they didn't live up to "expected value." Then again, perhaps I'm being naive in not wanting to acknowledge what a business transaction NIL actually is.

Its DJOver

Quote from: mug644 on March 17, 2025, 10:29:16 AMSorry to go back to the original post, but it implies something that I've not really heard about with NIL. We talk about how players might chase a bag to earn more money via NIL by transferring, and we talk about players that transfer (most often down) to  earn more playing time.

I've not read, though, about a player's NIL package changing/decreasing because their play has not been "worthy of anything beyond what they've agreed to." I know that there is really only limited reliable information about any player's NIL deal, but does anyone have a sense that a package is year-to-year, such that a package might be decreased for a lack of performance? I totally get how a guy could earn more, but I expect/hope that a school/collection/major donor would NOT decrease someone's NIL package because they didn't live up to "expected value." Then again, perhaps I'm being naive in not wanting to acknowledge what a business transaction NIL actually is.

I would bet we can get a decent indication based on AJ Storrs next destination.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on March 16, 2025, 11:34:39 AMDidn't Hurley say that half his roster is looking at the portal?  That would be unsettling

He says a lot of things.  One could argue, he says too much, too often.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: WarriorFan on March 16, 2025, 12:44:52 PMWe need a scoop NIL fund.  $1/post.  All proceeds go towards an aircraft carrier.

1.7m posts over 18 years .. so just over $100k per year. 

That's Polonowski money.

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