VanderBlue

[groove]

When our two scorers are hot we can hang with anyone. Otherwise, we have no where to go in the half court and then it is impossible to make up for our awful defense.

[MUMac]

He had two turnovers...I believe one was in the second half when he whipped a pass to Davante down low.

Mayo was the one turning it over late tonight.

Furthermore, Blue took *two* shots.  You people bitch and moan when he throws up a bunch of crap, and then he has a game where he plays pretty much within himself, and you STILL complain.

The official stats were just updated on JSOnline.  Blue had 6 assists and 1 TO's.  Cadougan 2 assists and 3 TO's.  Mayo 0 assists and 6 TO's.  Yep.  It was Blue's fault!

[Silkk the Shaka]

The official stats were just updated on JSOnline.  Blue had 6 assists and 1 TO's.  Cadougan 2 assists and 3 TO's.  Mayo 0 assists and 6 TO's.  Yep.  It was Blue's fault!

Seriously. So dumb. Blue should play a lot more point.

[lab_warrior]

As Reinko says, "facts are for nerds."  

TROLL on about Blue, apparently, rest of board!

[Da 'Lanche]

Blue is developing into a pretty effective distributor and generator at the point.   It seems to be a spot that he can use his athleticism to the team's advantage.  He generally takes good care of the ball and is a good passer (some of his assists tonight were downright beautiful). He also can beat most guys off the dribble (finishing will come with time).    His TOs seem to come when he is on the wing and trying to create something from nothing....when he is looking to create and pass first, more structured from the point, he seems to be very good.  He also can rebound well from that spot and is strong on getting back to defend.   I hope to see more of him at the point as he continues to develop.   

[CTWarrior]

Blue is developing into a pretty effective distributor and generator at the point.   It seems to be a spot that he can use his athleticism to the team's advantage.  He generally takes good care of the ball and is a good passer (some of his assists tonight were downright beautiful). He also can beat most guys off the dribble (finishing will come with time).    His TOs seem to come when he is on the wing and trying to create something from nothing....when he is looking to create and pass first, more structured from the point, he seems to be very good.  He also can rebound well from that spot and is strong on getting back to defend.   I hope to see more of him at the point as he continues to develop.   

I think Blue played well tonight, but when Georgetown stopped leaving their man to double him when he drove to the hoop in the second half he became ineffective on offense with no threat to kick the ball to and no ability to score it.  Same was true of Cadougan and Mayo, and at least Blue didn't turn the ball over in those situations tonight.  I'm not sure what we do to solve this issue of lack of scorers.

[esotericmindguy]

Is jamail jones that bad on defense?

[MUMac]

Is jamail jones that bad on defense?

Yes.

[ErickJD08]

I'm conflicted. I think he played well when he didnt shoot, which I think was by design. Then for some reason, at the end, he tries to go for the lay up and gets rejected twice.

Junior had an off night and I think he is a solid point. And he came through at the end with a big time drive and finish.

So do you bench JC to put in Blue who cant score at all or do you play JC who can run the point and can give some threat to score.

I kinda think Blue should back up JC until he can put the ball in the hoop.

[brewcity77]

The official stats were just updated on JSOnline.  Blue had 6 assists and 1 TO's.  Cadougan 2 assists and 3 TO's.  Mayo 0 assists and 6 TO's.  Yep.  It was Blue's fault!

Don't let facts get in the way of good trolling. Van had a great night, let the game come to him, and hit his FTs. Of course, the morons still complain. Vander could turn water to wine and the efftards would complain that they preferred brandy.

[chapman]

So it's the consensus that Blue is a good defender and good in transition scoring but struggles in half court offense.  Well, we saw the difference tonight-the struggles are as a 2 guard.  Make him our starting point guard-a few growing pains to be expected as he learns the position but it's where he belongs.

[MUMac]

So it's the consensus that Blue is a good defender and good in transition scoring but struggles in half court offense.  Well, we saw the difference tonight-the struggles are as a 2 guard.  Make him our starting point guard-a few growing pains to be expected as he learns the position but it's where he belongs.

The downside is that will hurt MU on the offensive boards.  When he is PG, he will not be able to crash the boards as often.  I, though, think it is a good tradeoff.

[Bieberhole69]

I think it's very clear Blue should be the starting point.  I don't think Cadougan brings much on offense or defense.  It could be a nice shake-up, nothing major but something to get things moving.

[MerrittsMustache]

I think it's very clear Blue should be the starting point.  I don't think Cadougan brings much on offense or defense.  It could be a nice shake-up, nothing major but something to get things moving.

I'd like to see a starting/crunch-time 5 of...

Blue
DJO
Crowder
Wilson
Gardner

[godzilla]

Is Blue a sure enough ball handler to be the starting PG?  He looked really good against the zone, but seemed much less effective when Gtown went man with more ball pressure.

[CTWarrior]

Is Blue a sure enough ball handler to be the starting PG?  He looked really good against the zone, but seemed much less effective when Gtown went man with more ball pressure.

Cadougan also looked shaky handling against pressure.  None of our PGs have the handle we have grown accustomed to from Tony Miller straight through to Maurice Acker.

[🏀]

I'd like to see a starting/crunch-time 5 of...

Blue
DJO
Crowder
Wilson
Gardner

I would agree in the last two minutes, but starting the game with these guys would cause a logistical nightmare for substitutions.

[MerrittsMustache]

Is Blue a sure enough ball handler to be the starting PG?  He looked really good against the zone, but seemed much less effective when Gtown went man with more ball pressure.

Junior has had his moments, but he's having a tough year. In his last 5 games, he has 11 assists and 11 TOs (take out the Nova game and it's 5 assists, 10 TOs in 4 games). Over those same 5 games, Blue has 17 assists and 9 TOs. The major problem is that neither one of them is much of a scorer and neither can shoot from the outside. As many others have mentioned, it's very hard to play with 2 guys on the court who can't score.

As it stands right now Vander contributes more in other aspects of the game (defense, steals, rebounding) so I think you have to give him a shot.

[MerrittsMustache]

I would agree in the last two minutes, but starting the game with these guys would cause a logistical nightmare for substitutions.

Good point. I was initially thinking that a line-up of Blue, DJO, Crowder, Wilson and Otule would be MU's best, with Gardner, Mayo and Cadougan off the bench. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem like it's going to happen.