Why no backtracking or apologies?

[Canadian Dimes]

One of the comments i took most objection to, as being just plain incorrect, was the following from Cracked Sidewalks..

Cracked Sidewalks: Junior is, as a scorer, bankrupt. I do not understand any game plan that would allow him to put up 10 shots in a game.  With a turnover rate of 24% and his inability to slow down opposing point guards, Junior is a weak link on this team.


there were other posts by people that said he should never shoot, etc,etc.

Then those same people voted him as SOTG after he took 11 shots against UWM!!!!!!!!

While some chose to rip him becuase he only had one assist!?

[Da 'Lanche]

Unlike others....Junior does not start a motion on offense without visioning where it is going (ie, he does not get caught in midair looking for a teammate).  He has excellent court vision and pretty good decision-making....for me, it seems it is more about execution with Junior than his head.....I watched him closely against UW-M and I was impressed when the ball was in his hands and left  them for his kin on the floor.

He still has a lot of work ahead of him, but, I like him running the point for us....just my opinion, but, I trust him with the rock.

[bilsu]

I do not need to apologize as I posted I had no probelm with him taking 10 shots against LSU. he was the only guard that did anything.

[Henry Sugar]

One of the comments i took most objection to, as being just plain incorrect, was the following from Cracked Sidewalks..

Cracked Sidewalks: Junior is, as a scorer, bankrupt. I do not understand any game plan that would allow him to put up 10 shots in a game.  With a turnover rate of 24% and his inability to slow down opposing point guards, Junior is a weak link on this team.

Junior had one good offensive game against a mediocre opponent, after which Tim already complimented him.

Is his turnover rate not 24%?  During his game against UWM, was he not subbed out defense for offense on multiple occasions?  When you compare him to DJO, Vander, Crowder, Gardner, and Mayo, is he not the weakest link from that group?  Should he really be taking 10+ shots per game when there are better options on the team that could take those shots? 

What's plain incorrect about any of those questions?

[ATL MU Warrior]

Junior had one good offensive game against a mediocre opponent, after which Tim already complimented him.

Is his turnover rate not 24%?  During his game against UWM, was he not subbed out defense for offense on multiple occasions?  When you compare him to DJO, Vander, Crowder, Gardner, and Mayo, is he not the weakest link from that group?  Should he really be taking 10+ shots per game when there are better options on the team that could take those shots? 

What's plain incorrect about any of those questions?

He absolutely should be taking more shots (is 10 the right #?  who knows) because if he's a threat to score, it makes our entire team that much harder to defend. 

Where were the "better options" in the LSU game?  Oh, right, LSU totally took them out of the game .  If Junior shows he is willing to shoot, it makes defenses have to play him, which will open the game up for our primary scorers.

This is so obvious that I can't believe anyone would question it. 

[Henry Sugar]

He absolutely should be taking more shots (is 10 the right #?  who knows) because if he's a threat to score, it makes our entire team that much harder to defend. 

Where were the "better options" in the LSU game?  Oh, right, LSU totally took them out of the game .  If Junior shows he is willing to shoot, it makes defenses have to play him, which will open the game up for our primary scorers.

This is so obvious that I can't believe anyone would question it. 

Of course it's obvious.  That's the entire point of constructing a strawman logical fallacy.

[MUMac]

He absolutely should be taking more shots (is 10 the right #?  who knows) because if he's a threat to score, it makes our entire team that much harder to defend. 

Where were the "better options" in the LSU game?  Oh, right, LSU totally took them out of the game .  If Junior shows he is willing to shoot, it makes defenses have to play him, which will open the game up for our primary scorers.

This is so obvious that I can't believe anyone would question it. 

+1 on the post.

As to the part in bold, my son and I had a similar discussion during the UWM game.  If he continues to develop an offensive game, he only makes MU more dangerous.  I like his drives, how he controls his body to get the shot off and his ability to score.  I also like his selective 3's.  He is gaining confidence in his 3 and the shot is coming around.

I just wish, on a break, he would get the ball to one of the other guards rather than take a contested shot himself.  A small quibble, I know.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Of course it's obvious.  That's the entire point of constructing a strawman logical fallacy.

Uh huh. 

So, back to your argument, where were the better options in the LSU game?  Why oh why were they not taking more shots?  After all, they are the ones that should be be shooting more so why didn't they?

Answer that one and you'll understand why Junior needs to shoot/be a threat to score.

Merry Christmas!

[bilsu]

It would be hard to argue that DJO was a better option in the LSU game. He had the ball stolen several times when he tried to drive. Blue cannot score against bigmen, so he definately was not the better option. Mayo, being a freshmen, was suckerd into driving into waiting defenders for charges. The only other guard on the team is Derrick Wilson. Against LSU Cadougan was the best option.

[Henry Sugar]

Uh huh. 

So, back to your argument, where were the better options in the LSU game?  Why oh why were they not taking more shots?  After all, they are the ones that should be be shooting more so why didn't they?

Answer that one and you'll understand why Junior needs to shoot/be a threat to score.

Merry Christmas!

Comprehension is your friend.  We are talking about different things, and I certainly have no interest in discussing your strawman argument.  Of course our point guard should be a threat to score offensively, especially when his coach subs him out on defensive possessions.  Duh.  Who would argue that?  Clearly you misunderstood my argument. 

Merry Christmas.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Comprehension is your friend.  We are talking about different things, and I certainly have no interest in discussing your strawman argument.  Of course our point guard should be a threat to score offensively, especially when his coach subs him out on defensive possessions.  Duh.  Who would argue that?  Clearly you misunderstood my argument. 

Merry Christmas.

The only argument you have put forth is that based on his shooting percentage Junior should not shoot in favor of other guys on the team who shoot a higher percentage.

That's such a stupid argument it's not worth discussing.  It shows a total lack of understanding of how the game of basketball is actually played, the fact that the other team actually has a say in how the game is played, the fact that opposing coaches want to and will take us out of our offensive game plan and that the guys on the floor must adapt. 

Try not to be such a condescending jerk next time, it's unbecoming on Christmas. 

[Hards Alumni]

The only argument you have put forth is that based on his shooting percentage Junior should not shoot in favor of other guys on the team who shoot a higher percentage.

That's such a stupid argument it's not worth discussing.  It shows a total lack of understanding of how the game of basketball is actually played, the fact that the other team actually has a say in how the game is played, the fact that opposing coaches want to and will take us out of our offensive game plan and that the guys on the floor must adapt. 

Try not to be such a condescending jerk next time, it's unbecoming on Christmas. 

Kettle meet pot.