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We R Final Four

With 1:00 to play and a 5 point lead Bo doesn't lose too many games.  Great free throw shooting, limited turnovers,etc. He takes the air out of the ball just like Dick Bennett.

We will shoot with 20 seconds left on the clock shot at the 1:00 minute mark thinking if we go up by 7 pts.....it's game over.  When DB misses and we get a quick foul, S Hall is shooting free throws with the clock stopped. After making 2 FTs, it is a 3 point lead with 50 seconds left.  Bo and Dick know that a 5 point lead with an expired shot clock at 30 seconds is much more clser to a win than a potential 7 point lead at 1:00.

That aside, Ed Hightower ASSURED that Becky would win that game.  It was comical--even the Becky fans at the Kohl were in slight agreement.

Markusquette

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 04, 2011, 08:14:37 PM
There's a huge talent disparity. But I think we were also much more talented last year. In terms of sheer talent, JFB > Leuer, DJO > Taylor, and Jae > Nankivil (that's the closest). But this isn't about talent. Leuer, Taylor, and Nankivil were very sound players. What they lack in talent they make up for in great technical skill. And they play a system that fits them like a glove. Bo does a great job of getting guys that will win playing his style, even if they aren't 1/10th as talented as the guys we typically have.

And is there a bigger home-court advantage in the NCAAs than the Kohl? Bo Ryan is 152-11 in that building. So if they play 16 home games a year, that's roughly a 15-1 record every year while routinely playing against teams like Ohio State and Michigan State that are routinely in the top-10 in the nation. Not to mention visits from other ranked Big Ten teams, biennial visits from quality ACC teams, as well as our trips up there. They have won 37 of their last 38 games in that building. It's not an accident or a fluke.

We can win. We are more talented. But anyone expecting that we will go in there and walk out with a comfortable win is delusional. tower said it very well when he talked about that building being worth 10-15 points. I think the question to ask is "do you think Marquette is 15 points better than UW on a neutral court?" If the answer is yes, we should win. If they answer is no or maybe, then we'll be in for a hell of a fight to get the W.

There's no doubt we have talent, but part of their talents (Leuer, Taylor, Nankivil) is being a technically sound basketball player.  They all play smart and deliver.  Jordan Taylor might be the most talented out of that bunch too, in my opinion.  But I do agree with most posters here that our team looks a bit stronger on paper simply because UW lost a lot in Leuer and Nankivil inside.  Despite losing Jimmy and Dwight, we're returning guys who might be a little bit ahead of some of UW's replacements. 

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 04, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
Murff is coming out of retirement to play the wide post for Bo?

Only if he can first prove that he is able to throw a ball into Lake Michigan and not miss.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

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Quote from: Jay Bee on November 04, 2011, 08:39:26 PM
Glad you can admit you were impressed by 'Glaser'.

My knowledge of a certain school's roster is sufficient (i.e. close enough on names like Gasser) when you take into account the team that we are talking about.

Only a troll would get more than two names right off of Bucky's roster.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

94Warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 04, 2011, 08:14:37 PM
There's a huge talent disparity. But I think we were also much more talented last year. In terms of sheer talent, JFB > Leuer, DJO > Taylor, and Jae > Nankivil (that's the closest). But this isn't about talent. Leuer, Taylor, and Nankivil were very sound players. What they lack in talent they make up for in great technical skill. And they play a system that fits them like a glove. Bo does a great job of getting guys that will win playing his style, even if they aren't 1/10th as talented as the guys we typically have.

And is there a bigger home-court advantage in the NCAAs than the Kohl? Bo Ryan is 152-11 in that building. So if they play 16 home games a year, that's roughly a 15-1 record every year while routinely playing against teams like Ohio State and Michigan State that are routinely in the top-10 in the nation. Not to mention visits from other ranked Big Ten teams, biennial visits from quality ACC teams, as well as our trips up there. They have won 37 of their last 38 games in that building. It's not an accident or a fluke.

We can win. We are more talented. But anyone expecting that we will go in there and walk out with a comfortable win is delusional. tower said it very well when he talked about that building being worth 10-15 points. I think the question to ask is "do you think Marquette is 15 points better than UW on a neutral court?" If the answer is yes, we should win. If they answer is no or maybe, then we'll be in for a hell of a fight to get the W.

I agree with much of what you said, but the star comparison seems a bit biased.  I'd give Butler a slight edge over Leuer based on his all-around game including defense and rebounding.  I'd say Crowder and Nankivil were a push, both inconsistent offensively, Nankivil the better defender, Crowder the better offensive rebounder.  As good as DJO is, Jordan Taylor is better, plus he's a point guard.  Meaning he's not only the best, but he plays the most important position on the court.  Without Leuer and Nankivil, and with J. Wilson sliding into Butler's position, I feel we are in better shape this season.  

bilsu

Quote from: mu35577 on November 04, 2011, 08:04:38 PM
I was at that game in 2007. Brian Butch's Badgers were favored in that one, but 'rel, Wes, Dominic, and Lazar all put in good performances and we beat them at the KC for the first time in a long time. Felt great being there to witness it. I'm heading up there again this year for the first time since that game. Hopefully some repeat magic. I think we have a good chance at beating them as I think we are the better team, but that place is awfully tough to play in and UW is very solid. Should be a good game
We won that game, because of Dwight Burke. It was the best game of his career.

brewcity77

Quote from: 94Warrior on November 04, 2011, 09:15:28 PM
I agree with much of what you said, but the star comparison seems a bit biased.  I'd give Butler a slight edge over Leuer based on his all-around game including defense and rebounding.  I'd say Crowder and Nankivil were a push, both inconsistent offensively, Nankivil the better defender, Crowder the better offensive rebounder.  As good as DJO is, Jordan Taylor is better, plus he's a point guard.  Meaning he's not only the best, but he plays the most important position on the court.  Without Leuer and Nankivil, and with J. Wilson sliding into Butler's position, I feel we are in better shape this season.  

Ooft...I'm not sure I can agree with that. DJO is undoubtedly the better athlete, that's not even close. He's also better at driving the lane and finishing at the rim. Defensively, I think it's about a wash. Taylor is probably a bit more consistent with his D, but when he's on his game, DJO is the better defender. Shooting is also probably a wash. Of course, everyone will point to last year when Taylor hit over 43% from three, but let's not forget DJO hit over 47% from three the year before. It's a lot easier when you have other sharpshooters to get you open (Leuer and Nankivil, or Hayward and Acker). As far as passing and controlling the ball, Taylor gets the clear edge. And yes, a star PG is usually more valuable than a star SG.

But we've yet to see either of them as the #1 option, and for many points it's tough to be the top guy as both scorer and distributor. I have absolute faith in what DJO will be able to do this year, even with Lazar and Jimmy both having departed over the past couple years. I'm not nearly as confident that Taylor will thrive when his next best options are Gasser and Brusewicz instead of Leuer and Nankivil.

And quick back to the top...bear in mind I used > for Crowder  ;) I'd say Jae is either equal to or better than Nankivil. Not guaranteeing he's better, it's very close, but I wouldn't put KN ahead of Crowder (equal at best).

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I didn't go in 2009 at Madison. I'll be back to go for two in a row at the Kohl Center for me. I got lucky this time with face value tickets.  ;D
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