MU vs. Sconnie

[MUMac]

I have always cheered for Badger football and Hockey.  I never really cared about UW basketball until I moved back to Wisconsin (Madison, to be precise).  After bo became coach and the Platteville posse began to run things, I began to detest UW hoops. 

I also cheer for UW Cross Country and Track.

[TVDirector]

So. Jersey guy, so whatever local born and bred hatred 'tween 2 good schools escapes me.
voted 'don't care'.

except for hoops-
despise badger hoops, and that's probably more since Bo(ring)Ball has been around.
a coach that's a ringer for the school mascot just ain't natural.

nephew rowed for Madison.
if my kids want to go there, no worries.

but Hedgehog Ryan makes my skin crawl.

[VanderBabyBlue]

I'm a huge Badger fan all fall, college football is every bit as important to me as basketball.  I don't see how anyone from Wisconsin (growing up with best football culture in the country) wouldn't be a college football fan.

[shiloh26]

I'm a huge Badger fan all fall, college football is every bit as important to me as basketball.  I don't see how anyone from Wisconsin (growing up with best football culture in the country) wouldn't be a college football fan.

See: post by MUBurrow.  

OH. MY. GOD. MADISON IS THE BEST SCHOOL IN THE WORLD! NUMBER ONE PARTY SCHOOL IN AMERICA!!! YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED BEER PONG UNTIL YOUVE PLAYED IT AT A MADISON PARTY. AND THE SCHOOL IS SO. GREAT. I AM GOING TO HAVE A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN YOU AND BE WAY RICHER WHEN I GRADUATE! WHY WOULD YOU EVER GO ANYWHERE ELSE??!?! IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU!?

If you went to a public high school in WI and went to Marquette, this is what your senior year was like, and what its like whenever you talk college with people from home. Maybe this is a more recent development with the whole party school publicity, but for that generation at least, it doesn't take long to wish losses on them wherever they go.

I was a fan of Badger football my whole life until my senior year of high school when I got all of the crap that he detailed in his post for choosing MU over UW.  Enough to turn someone off for life.  

[seakm4]

I love MU bball and like some have said can point out pros and cons about all of our players and our coach.  I never count my chickens before they hatch with our bball team because the past few years it's been a toss up and told my buddies we're gonna finish .500 in the BEAST and pending on who we beat we will make the tourney or just miss it.  Marquette fans are passionate fans that know their players top to bottom.  We have and know who our rivals are. We know about our incoming freshman (not some surprise from port washington) and what they'll bring to the table.  I don't think many badger fans care the same for their bball team.  They're too concerned about the football team until they get their hopes and dreams ruined.  I loudly and proudly cheered in front of family and friends after the hail mary last week.  I have a true disdain for the badgers.  They aren't my home state team for anything MU is because MU basketball is my number 1 sport and uw is a rival.  no cheering for rivals...ever.

[ATL MU Warrior]

I'm a huge Badger fan all fall, college football is every bit as important to me as basketball.  I don't see how anyone from Wisconsin (growing up with best football culture in the country) wouldn't be a college football fan.

you need to get out more and see the country.

[syscokid]

I cheer for football as well, although my passion for it has wained more and more every year. I am a HUGE MU fan. If MU had a FB team I would root for MU for all sports, even if they sucked at FB I wouldn't cheer for Becky, but the truth is we don't. I cannot stand Bo the grinch or the extreme arrogant Becky fans. That is what is turning me off to football lately too. My beer goggles have been off for a few years now. My bro went to UW and cheered for MU when he was a student there. He hates WI BB as much as I do. Talk about a loyal fan! My dad started taking us to MU games when we were 4 &5 years old. Hank Raymonds was a friend of my family as well as George Thompson. Georges wife Karen has even been to my house to watch an MU game. By the way, George even attends a UW FB game on occasion. This all gets solved if we ever get a FB team. sigh......

[syscokid]

I agree with ATL MU warrior. UW football atmosphere is nothing compared to the SEC or ACC. Most passionate fans in all of college FB!

[MUMac]

I agree with ATL MU warrior. UW football atmosphere is nothing compared to the SEC or ACC. Most passionate fans in all of college FB!

vanderbabyblue was not speaking solely of UW football, but the passion for football in the entire state - starting with the Packers.

ACC football is nothing special at all.  SEC is comparable to the Big 10 atmosphere - and before you tell me I need to see more of the country, I have lived in SEC, ACC, Big East, Big 12 and Big 10 country.

[MUBurrow]

When I think of how I would judge a state's football culture, I actually think the most important element is the state's disposition toward high school football, followed by college, followed by the pros. I think the bottom up approach reaches the most people, and spawns the most passion and tradition. Thats why I would say that most of the deep south states are, as a whole, much better football states. I'll be the first to admit thats entirely subjective though.

[MUMac]

When I think of how I would judge a state's football culture, I actually think the most important element is the state's disposition toward high school football, followed by college, followed by the pros. I think the bottom up approach reaches the most people, and spawns the most passion and tradition. Thats why I would say that most of the deep south states are, as a whole, much better football states. I'll be the first to admit thats entirely subjective though.

Ranking it that way, Florida, Georgia, Texas, Ohio and Michigan would make my top 5 (not necessarily in that order).

Interestingly, in Wisconsin it has always been a top down, not bottom up - as your premise.

[ATL MU Warrior]

vanderbabyblue was not speaking solely of UW football, but the passion for football in the entire state - starting with the Packers.

ACC football is nothing special at all.  SEC is comparable to the Big 10 atmosphere - and before you tell me I need to see more of the country, I have lived in SEC, ACC, Big East, Big 12 and Big 10 country.

Not sure if he was talking about football in general or specifically UW football...all he mentioned in his post was college football so not sure how you arrived that he was starting with the Packers.  

Madison is a great college football environment, but in my opinion not the best I have been to.

[MUMac]

Not sure if he was talking about football in general or specifically UW football...all he mentioned in his post was college football so not sure how you arrived that he was starting with the Packers.  

Madison is a great college football environment, but in my opinion not the best I have been to.

Being born and bread in Wisconsin - the "best football culture" to me is clearly all of football.  UW football was dark ages and few attended in the '80's.  Packers dark years were always sold out.  Maybe he meant college football culture, but I suspect your interpretation is that of someone who was not born and bread in Wisconsin.  I would further suspect most native Wisconsinites would have read it the same as I and different than you.

As I stated in another post, Wisconsin is NFL driven first, college and high school football thrive off of that.  Many other states it is the opposite.

[VanderBabyBlue]

vanderbabyblue was not speaking solely of UW football, but the passion for football in the entire state - starting with the Packers.

ACC football is nothing special at all.  SEC is comparable to the Big 10 atmosphere - and before you tell me I need to see more of the country, I have lived in SEC, ACC, Big East, Big 12 and Big 10 country.

This.

[77ncaachamps]

But Wisconsin has only one D1 football school is it's under stable that the WHOLE state supports Bucky. Whitewater has a great nonD1 program but it's not the same.

Unlike the SEC states where there are more than one D1 team, Wisconsin FB fan base SHOULD be as rabid as it is.

Never liked em in any sport. Hate them in BB.

[NersEllenson]

This.

Nobody outside of the upper Midwest respects Wisconsin's football team.  They benefit from playing in a watered down Big 10.  Hell UW couldn't even beat TCU last year - and TCU didn't have any signature regular season wins against marquee programs - their record and ranking was just as inflated as Wisconsin's last year.  Sadly, for UW fans, their team just choked away a game against a decent Michigan State team.  I was really hoping UW would make the National Championship game - just to see the train wreck that would have been getting waxed by an SEC team.  

As for UW basketball - been a good run under Bo Ryan, but UW will NEVER do much in the NCAA - particularly if they have to face teams seeded higher than 8.  UW under Bo Ryan will always be a team that is good for an NCAA tourney birth, but never has any real chance to make a Final Four.  MU on the other hand is trending WAY up...and with Buzz recruiting so well on a national level - we very likely will be heading back to the years of Al - when MU just owned Bucky.  It will start this year...

[MarquetteDano]

It would be interesting to see the poll results by where the voter grew up.   I can see a lot of born and bred Wisconsinites being Badgers fans during the football season.  Makes sense.

However, for someone who was born and raised in Chicago I would guess they do not cheer for the Badgers in any sport.

[tower912]

Nobody outside the midwest respects the B1G as a basketball conference and only marginally as a football conference.   No one was actually surprised when Bama rolled Sparty in their bowl game or that only Izzo can take a team deep in the dance.   Everyone knows that Wiscy is a good B1G basketball team, but that doesn't mean they are a good basketball team. 

[ATL MU Warrior]

It would be interesting to see the poll results by where the voter grew up.   I can see a lot of born and bred Wisconsinites being Badgers fans during the football season.  Makes sense.

However, for someone who was born and raised in Chicago I would guess they do not cheer for the Badgers in any sport.

Agree 100%

[VanderBabyBlue]

Nobody outside of the upper Midwest respects Wisconsin's football team.  They benefit from playing in a watered down Big 10.  Hell UW couldn't even beat TCU last year - and TCU didn't have any signature regular season wins against marquee programs - their record and ranking was just as inflated as Wisconsin's last year.  Sadly, for UW fans, their team just choked away a game against a decent Michigan State team.  I was really hoping UW would make the National Championship game - just to see the train wreck that would have been getting waxed by an SEC team.  

As for UW basketball - been a good run under Bo Ryan, but UW will NEVER do much in the NCAA - particularly if they have to face teams seeded higher than 8.  UW under Bo Ryan will always be a team that is good for an NCAA tourney birth, but never has any real chance to make a Final Four.  MU on the other hand is trending WAY up...and with Buzz recruiting so well on a national level - we very likely will be heading back to the years of Al - when MU just owned Bucky.  It will start this year...

Basketball, yep, it will be same old, same old.  Top 4 finish in the B10, high seed, surprising loss in the tourney to an underdog in embarrassing fashion.

But it's pretty clear you don't follow college football.  Wisconsin has been getting as much pub as any program in the country this fall.  Last week was their second time featured by the Gameday crew this season alone (and they've hosted the show two years in a row now), and tonight they're playing their 4th national night game of the year, more than any other program.  The football program's stock is high and only rising, they'll be one of the premiere programs not just in the B10, but nationally, for years to come.

[NersEllenson]

Basketball, yep, it will be same old, same old.  Top 4 finish in the B10, high seed, surprising loss in the tourney to an underdog in embarrassing fashion.

But it's pretty clear you don't follow college football.  Wisconsin has been getting as much pub as any program in the country this fall.  Last week was their second time featured by the Gameday crew this season alone (and they've hosted the show two years in a row now), and tonight they're playing their 4th national night game of the year, more than any other program.  The football program's stock is high and only rising, they'll be one of the premiere programs not just in the B10, but nationally, for years to come.

I do follow college football closely...and saw UW just choke/wilt under the lights at Michigan State.  Just like they choked in the Rose Bowl against a marginal TCU team.  Getting on college football Gameday doesn't mean other parts of the country respect your team - or view it on the level of an SEC/PAC 12 team.  UW football is good - but year after year they tease their fans that they might actually be a true national title contender...only to fail every year.  Is UW the "class" of Big 10 football??  You could make that argument present day. Yet being the class of Big 10 football is the virtual equivalent of being the class of Big East football.  Here are all-time BCS bowl game records by conference:
Highest Winning Percentages By Conference

Conference
Percentage (Record)
Mountain West
.750 (3-1)
Southeastern
.714 (15-6)
WAC
.667 (2-1)
Pac-12
.625 (10-6)
Big Ten
.478 (11-12)
Big East
.462 (6-7)
Big 12
.444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast
.154 (2-11)
Independents
.000 (0-3)

[Litehouse]

Basketball, yep, it will be same old, same old.  Top 4 finish in the B10, high seed, surprising loss in the tourney to an underdog in embarrassing fashion.

But it's pretty clear you don't follow college football.  Wisconsin has been getting as much pub as any program in the country this fall.  Last week was their second time featured by the Gameday crew this season alone (and they've hosted the show two years in a row now), and tonight they're playing their 4th national night game of the year, more than any other program.  The football program's stock is high and only rising, they'll be one of the premiere programs not just in the B10, but nationally, for years to come.

So, how about those Buckeyes?

[GGGG]

The only thing that I would say in defense of the B10's BCS bowl record, is that they almost always get an extra team into the BCS because of their market value and not because they deserve it on the field.  That means they generally have a weaker team playing.

But yeah...by and large B10 football isn't as good as SEC football....and oftentimes worse than P12 and B12.

[ecompt]

I generally couldn't care less about college football, but the last two weeks I have enjoyed immensely watching the Badgers (with 44 players who have redshirted at one time or another) lose in the final minute. Their fans are pompous, conceited asses who think Madison is the Garden of Eden.

[augoman]

Might be a civil atmosphere, but there sure isn't a lot of winning...

It must be exciting to hear the student section chant in binary code!

I believe the wildcats beat the baajrs the last 3 times they got to evanston.  Also think they have finished as high or higher in the b1? save for the last 2-3 years.  Further, did plenty of winning until coach walker died suddenly (won at least a share of b1? title 3 of 6 years), and am now getting back on track under coach fitzgerald.  (unlike the baajrs, the wildcats have been #1 in the nation, although it was quite a while back).