Campus rivalry says 5 hour meeting concluded

[bamamarquettefan]

Claim that everyone including tcu unified and authorized conversations with several institutions.  Sorry, can't paste link from my phone - but at least sounds like no bombs dropped.

[4everwarriors]

Good, now I can get back to enjoying the Brew Crew and Pack.

[kryza]

Here's the link. Seems like good news, but gonna keep my fingers crossed.

[bamamarquettefan]

The thing I am encouraged by is the ACC teams seem to realize they lost money by bringing on Syracuse and Pitt.

That doesn't mean it was a bad move, as the 1-2 punch of getting the buyout up to $20 million and grabbing these two guaranteed survival and got them back to top hoops conference, BUT it certainly has to make them and other conferences pause about making additional offers that will have them explaining to each member why they are getting less money each year.

That is why the Big 12 threat is still real.  The magic number is still 12 for a conference championship game that brings in more money, so the Big 12 is the only of the other 5 conferences with true incentive to add a couple of members and know they are pretty sure to come out ahead.  That's why I'd love them to sign BYU or someone else we don't want.

Obviously the SEC has incentive to add one team just to even out.  You can't have everyone play the same number of conference games with one division of 6 and one of 7, so you need to either do away with divisions or just say you win your division by having best record in divisional play. i'd love to see them stay at 13, but don't see how they go with either of those two.

[Bieberhole69]

The thing I am encouraged by is the ACC teams seem to realize they lost money by bringing on Syracuse and Pitt.

That doesn't mean it was a bad move, as the 1-2 punch of getting the buyout up to $20 million and grabbing these two guaranteed survival and got them back to top hoops conference, BUT it certainly has to make them and other conferences pause about making additional offers that will have them explaining to each member why they are getting less money each year.

Is this true?  Not saying you're wrong, but I haven't heard anything about ACC schools losing money with Pitt and Syracuse added.  Really I haven't heard anything as far as money goes anywhere.  It's surprising to me for how much you hear about money in this whole process you really don't see anyone spelling out the actual dollars for the schools involved.

[kmwtrucks]

I think the more then likely adding Pitt and Cuse is not going to increase the football TV contract by 40 Mil which is what it would need to inccrease to keep all the schools getting the same amount as before. So if it only adds 26 mil, then that would mean each school would get 1 Mil less each. 

[GGGG]

Well, part of the reasons that expansion is justified by the conferences is that it is based on future television contracts.  So for instance, the ACC schools are currently making $13M per school on their current television deal.

http://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2011/september/21/move-worthy-acclaim-look-acc-expansion

The thought is that with the increase in the value of these contracts over time is that they can increase this value significantly...closer to the Pac 12 and their $21M contract.  

The problem with this is that it will be impossible to prove that expansion wasn't worthwhile.  I mean, let's say that the ACC gets a television contract worth $250M per year.  That will be $17.85M per school once it gets to 14.  Nice jump...from $13 right?  

Well, what if the conference would have received a contract of $225M without Pitt and Syracuse.  That would have been a smaller overall contract, but the per school amount would have been $18.75M.  Obviously we will never be able to tell if this was the case.