Bradley Center / MU

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Wouldn't you say the brewers cater to both? Tickets range anywhere from $10 to $100 plus cheaper online?

I was going to add this. It seems to me like a Brewers game has just about every type of person/fan there. College kids, families, old people, young professionals, Freeway. Etc.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Fair enough. The Brewers do some to attract families but the location of the stadium was catered to the young and drunk fanbase who likes to drink on the cheap. I know several Brewers fans who once fit into that demographic but they've grown up, gotten married and had children - children who they won't take to Miller Park because it becomes an obnoxious drunkfest far too often for their liking. Sure, there would still be drunk people if the stadium was downtown but I doubt it would be anywhere near as bad as it can get in a tailgating atmosphere.

The location of Miller Park caters to the young and drunk? How? They like to flow into Milwaukee quickly from their multitudinous locations in the western suburbs? I think a downtown location would have catered to the young and drunk a LOT more. Think Summerfest.

[Chili]

But let's face it: Milwaukee and WI are football first, then basketball, then hockey, then baseball.

No way...Milwaukee is easily football then baseball with the other two a huge distance back. Hockey? Seriously?

[Ari Gold]

Fair enough. The Brewers do some to attract families but the location of the stadium was catered to the young and drunk fanbase who likes to drink on the cheap. I know several Brewers fans who once fit into that demographic but they've grown up, gotten married and had children - children who they won't take to Miller Park because it becomes an obnoxious drunkfest far too often for their liking. Sure, there would still be drunk people if the stadium was downtown but I doubt it would be anywhere near as bad as it can get in a tailgating atmosphere.

Any place that let you bring in booze caters to a younger heavier drinking fan base. Miller Park makes efforts for families to enjoy the game as well (alcohol free sections, Tuesdays, the more expensive seats etc)
I think your friends overestimate the amount of drunk people there.  Friday and Saturday games... sure I think its a heavier drinking crowd but most week night games will be pretty tame. And the cycle will continue itself. Your friends kids will grow up and your friends will feel more comfortable taking them to games, my age group will have kids and settle down and worry about the hammered 20 somethings...

[brewcity77]

No way...Milwaukee is easily football then baseball with the other two a huge distance back. Hockey? Seriously?

+1

Football is way out in front, but the margin between baseball and the rest is almost as big. Hockey is barely a consideration. Maybe up north, but certainly not in Milwaukee. Who's the draw? The Admirals? The Badgers? Not even in the discussion. NASCAR is bigger than hockey, and that's without any races coming to town.

[MUfan12]

But let's face it: Milwaukee and WI are football first, then basketball, then hockey, then baseball.

That sentence is in the running for the most inaccurate thing I've read on Scoop. Milwaukee is a good baseball town.

Hockey isn't even in the equation. I'd argue soccer is more popular here than hockey.

[GGGG]

Right now, Milwaukee ranks 12th in baseball attendance.  Not bad for a franchise that has one playoff appearance in the last 30 years.

[Chili]

Right now, Milwaukee ranks 12th in baseball attendance.  Not bad for a franchise that has one playoff appearance in the last 30 years.

And the smallest market in baseball too.

[ringout]

And the smallest market in baseball too.

per capita, Milwaukee supports the Brewers very well.  Braves had crazy attendance, too.  3 million in late 50's. 

[Hards Alumni]

per capita, Milwaukee supports the Brewers very well.  Braves had crazy attendance, too.  3 million in late 50's. 

Well in the 50's Milwaukee was the 13th largest city in the US.

[rocky_warrior]

Well, at least for several pages this was about the Bradley Center / MU .... try to stay focused folks...

[ringout]

Well in the 50's Milwaukee was the 13th largest city in the US.

The Braves were outdrawing the Yankees  in the late 50's.  My point is, Milwaukee has always drawn very well compared to larger cities.

[Benny B]

Well, at least for several pages this was about the Bradley Center / MU .... try to stay focused folks...

The Bradley Center?  I thought that thing was torn down to make way for the new downtown baseball/basketball/soccer/hockey/Marquette Football mega-multiplex stadiurena.

[Coleman]

Let's be honest...Milwaukee and the rest of Wisconsin is a football town...period....everything else is so far distant the rankings don't even matter.

[Hards Alumni]

Let's be honest...Milwaukee and the rest of Wisconsin is a football town...period....everything else is so far distant the rankings don't even matter.

agree to disagree.

[jsglow]

I'd actually rank sports interest statewide as follows:  Packers, Brewers, Badger football, Badger basketball (yes, I know this is our MU board; UW is just a much bigger school with many more alums), Bucks, MU Hoops, Admirals, UW Hockey, UWM basketball.

The tough call for me was whether MU basketball should be ranked higher than the Bucks.  I know our per game attendance is higher but the Bucks plsy 41 home dates.  Be interesting to know which team has higher TV ratings.  Anyway, down that low in the pecking order for the Bucks won't get a new arena built.  Miller Park was an easy call and Milwaukee is very lucky to have such a top notch ballpark.

[MUMac]

I'd actually rank sports interest statewide as follows:  Packers, Brewers, Badger football, Badger basketball (yes, I know this is our MU board; UW is just a much bigger school with many more alums), Bucks, MU Hoops, Admirals, UW Hockey, UWM basketball.

The tough call for me was whether MU basketball should be ranked higher than the Bucks.  I know our per game attendance is higher but the Bucks plsy 41 home dates.  Be interesting to know which team has higher TV ratings.  Anyway, down that low in the pecking order for the Bucks won't get a new arena built.  Miller Park was an easy call and Milwaukee is very lucky to have such a top notch ballpark.

If you are using statewide, I would switch Badger Football for Brewers Baseball.  Southeastern Wisconsin may be different, but across the state, Badger Football would rank higher.

[jsglow]

If you are using statewide, I would switch Badger Football for Brewers Baseball.  Southeastern Wisconsin may be different, but across the state, Badger Football would rank higher.

You may be right.  But 3.0 million fans in the seats counts for a lot.  You are certainly true on a per game basis but there are only about 12 football games in comparison. 

[MUMac]

You may be right.  But 3.0 million fans in the seats counts for a lot.  You are certainly true on a per game basis but there are only about 12 football games in comparison. 

Keep in mind - every game is a sell out.  They travel extremely well to away games and bowl games.  The  passion.  I do believe Wisconsin is a football first state - Packers and Badgers.  The passion for the Brewers out state is not as great.  Following and attending an occassional game, yes.  Just not to the same degree.

[77ncaachamps]

Mea culpa. That's a West Coast perspective for you. Now you know how an "East Coast Bias" feels out here, but in reverse.

[martyconlonontherun]

I think Sultan is completely wrong about 13,000 fans are better than 40,000 tailgaters. One problem I have with Sultan's argument is that I think he has a false assumption that drunk brewers fans are rational. In theory, it would make sense that those tailgating wouldn't buy food and drinks at the game. I think it is the complete  opposite. If I'm tailgating, I usually have a buzz and don't care how much I spend in the game or how bad the food is at the park. I usually end up buying a couple long islands and a brat.

If I don't tailgate, I usually throw in a pack of sunflower seeds and just enjoy the game not spending any money. If I'm sober I can't rationalize spending $25 on 3 beers and the empty calories associated with it. Nor the lack of nutrition in a sausage. I usually stop at the cousins on the way and get a $3 Grecian turkey sub. It's healthier and cheaper.

In short, drunk people waste money. Sober people are more frugal.

I just had a thought regarding the Bucks.

I wonder if Herb could be talked into leaving the Bucks in his estate, or even donating them during his lifetime, to a public charity of some sort.  The sole purpose of the charity would be to build a new arena for the City of Milwaukee.  Then when the new owner purchases the team, the charity would have the funds to construct the arena.

This of course means that he wouldn't have the $$ to give to family, or to other interests via his estate...but it might be the best way to keep the Bucks in the city.

Kohl is worth $240 mil with the Bucks.A new stadium would cost close to $400 mil. Even if he snubbed UW, his family, and other charities by donating it all to the stadium, we would still have a long way to go.