Main Menu
collapse

Resources

2024-2025 SOTG Tally


2024-25 Season SoG Tally
Jones, K.10
Mitchell6
Joplin4
Ross2
Gold1

'23-24 '22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

Big East Standings

Recent Posts

2025 Coaching Carousel by Hards Alumni
[Today at 06:43:22 AM]


Practice by wadesworld
[September 22, 2025, 04:57:13 PM]


NM by mu_hilltopper
[September 22, 2025, 04:44:02 PM]


[Cracked Sidewalks] Albany Preview by mileskishnish72
[September 22, 2025, 03:29:28 PM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address. We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or signup NOW!

Next up: A long offseason

Marquette
66
Marquette
Scrimmage
Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
TV: NA
Schedule for 2024-25
New Mexico
75

79Warrior


Opened at 5.5

looks like some money moving over to MU

MountainCreekHouse

I'm not too familiar with gambling.. does this mean that UNC is now a 4 pt favorite?
Farva:"Give me six Schlitzes."
O'Hagan: "Take it easy, Rod."
Farva: "Open bar, dude!"

Benny B

Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 23, 2011, 10:59:29 AM
I'm not too familiar with gambling.. does this mean that UNC is now a 4 pt favorite?
Yes, it does mean that Vegas believes UNC will win by 4 points.

I'm showing -4.5 this morning.  Regardless, let's put this in perspective:

Kansas (1) is a 10.5 pt favorite over Richmond (12)
Duke (1) is a 8.5 pt favorite over Arizona (5)

While Richmond and Arizona have a daunting task ahead (as does Marquette), Marquette is nowhere near the underdog that Arizona and Richmond are considered to be.

OSU (1) is a 5.5 pt favorite over Kentucky (4)

You could loosely translate this into "Vegas thinks it's more likely that Marquette beats UNC than Kentucky beats OSU."

In any event... with it's fan base, name recognition, and seed advantage, for UNC to lose 1-1.5 points after opening at 5 is a pretty significant movement.  Granted, they're still favored, but Vegas doesn't consider this game a "lock" any more than Wisconsin is a "lock" to beat Butler.

Don't call MU Cinderella; call us Sleeping Beauty... and may God help you if you wake us up.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

NersEllenson

Interesting on Ken Pomroy:

Number 11 - Syracuse
12 - North Carolina
13- UCONN
14 - LVILLE
15 - Notre Dame

Just saying..there is NO reason MU should think for a minute it cannot compete with UNC.  We absolutely can beat these guys if we are on our game..

Incidentally - MU is 26
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

texaswarrior74

Quote from: Benny B on March 23, 2011, 11:25:27 AM
Yes, it does mean that Vegas believes UNC will win by 4 points.

I'm showing -4.5 this morning.  Regardless, let's put this in perspective:

Kansas (1) is a 10.5 pt favorite over Richmond (12)
Duke (1) is a 8.5 pt favorite over Arizona (5)

While Richmond and Arizona have a daunting task ahead (as does Marquette), Marquette is nowhere near the underdog that Arizona and Richmond are considered to be.

OSU (1) is a 5.5 pt favorite over Kentucky (4)

You could loosely translate this into "Vegas thinks it's more likely that Marquette beats UNC than Kentucky beats OSU."

In any event... with it's fan base, name recognition, and seed advantage, for UNC to lose 1-1.5 points after opening at 5 is a pretty significant movement.  Granted, they're still favored, but Vegas doesn't consider this game a "lock" any more than Wisconsin is a "lock" to beat Butler.

Don't call MU Cinderella; call us Sleeping Beauty... and may God help you if you wake us up.

You also have to remember that Vegas oddsmakers are trying to make money for the house.....at the very least they want to break even.

It probably means that early money is getting too heavy in one direction and they need to "balance" their books by getting more action the other way......that is usually what causes swings like this midweek...

NersEllenson

Quote from: texaswarrior74 on March 23, 2011, 11:41:59 AM
You also have to remember that Vegas oddsmakers are trying to make money for the house.....at the very least they want to break even.

It probably means that early money is getting too heavy in one direction and they need to "balance" their books by getting more action the other way......that is usually what causes swings like this midweek...

Yeah...too many people were taking Marquette and the points...so they have to get more fans picking UNC..thus the drop in line..
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

96warrior

Quote from: Benny B on March 23, 2011, 11:25:27 AM
Don't call MU Cinderella; call us Sleeping Beauty... and may God help you if you wake us up.

I like. May steal.

Benny B

Quote from: texaswarrior74 on March 23, 2011, 11:41:59 AM
You also have to remember that Vegas oddsmakers are trying to make money for the house.....at the very least they want to break even.

It probably means that early money is getting too heavy in one direction and they need to "balance" their books by getting more action the other way......that is usually what causes swings like this midweek...

My bad... I skipped over that part, but yes, that is the whole basis here.  And considering that the inefficient money (the bets that are not influenced by the line, e.g. "homer" and "name-only" bets) is going to be top heavy to UNC, that means the efficient money (the rational bets) has to be that much more active on Marquette's side for that kind of mid-week swing to occur.  That, or Vegas was expecting more inefficient money on UNC and that simply hasn't occurred.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

klyrish

Quote from: Benny B on March 23, 2011, 11:25:27 AMDon't call MU Cinderella; call us Sleeping Beauty... and may God help you if you wake us up.
Love it!

bamamarquettefan

Quote from: texaswarrior74 on March 23, 2011, 11:41:59 AM
You also have to remember that Vegas oddsmakers are trying to make money for the house.....at the very least they want to break even.

It probably means that early money is getting too heavy in one direction and they need to "balance" their books by getting more action the other way......that is usually what causes swings like this midweek...

This is true, but this is part of what Vegas does to get the point spreads close.  People who know more generally wager early.  Therefore, when a lot of people start wagering one way it moves teh line one way because Vegas "knows" many people in the know are looking at their initial line and believing it is too far in one direction and therefore going the other way.
The www.valueaddsports.com analysis of basketball, football and baseball players are intended to neither be too hot or too cold - hundreds immerse themselves in studies of stats not of interest to broader fan bases (too hot), while others still insist on pure observation (too cold).

Previous topic - Next topic