Let's see if MU can live up to Wisconsin's performance vs Belmont

[Hards Alumni]

Ok, let me try this ...

Willie (echoing Chicos and others) like to take shots at MU by saying we are behind UW.  The implication is UW is some non-descript middling kind of basketball program and if MU is worse than that, we are in deep trouble.

What I originally posted was, according to KenPom, UW has been top 10 5 of the last 8 years.  Even UNC has not been top 10 5 of the last 8 years.  So, BY THIS MEASURE, UW has been better than UNC.

UW has been to the NCAA 12 straight years.  Only Kansas (22), Duke (16) and Michigan State (14) have longer streaks.

So, to take a shot at MU that UW is better fails to appreciate how good they have been in recent years.  By these measures not many programs have been better.

For MU to have been better than UW in recent years, we would have to been an elite program.

Interesting measurement.  The problem is that its a stupid argument since program success isn't measured in Kenpom rankings.  No one does that.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Ok, let me try this ...

Willie (echoing Chicos and others) like to take shots at MU by saying we are behind UW.  The implication is UW is some non-descript middling kind of basketball program and if MU is worse than that, we are in deep trouble.

What I originally posted was, according to KenPom, UW has been top 10 5 of the last 8 years.  Even UNC has not been top 10 5 of the last 8 years.  So, BY THIS MEASURE, UW has been better than UNC.

UW has been to the NCAA 12 straight years.  Only Kansas (22), Duke (16) and Michigan State (14) have longer streaks.

So, to take a shot at MU that UW is better fails to appreciate how good they have been in recent years.  By these measures not many programs have been better.

For MU to have been better than UW in recent years, we would have to been an elite program.

Actually UW has been to the NCAA 13 straight years.

They have a winning record in those 13 years in the NCAA tournament.

I don't think they are non-descript at all, not sure why you lumped me into that argument.  I believe they are a very good program.  An elite program at home, but overall a very good program.  That doesn't mean MU sucks, it means MU is good but hasn't been as good as UW-madison in any comparison tool I can find since 2000.   Both have a Final Four, but UW-madison has multiple conference titles, a lot more NCAA appearances, a lot more NCAA wins, more overall regular season wins, more wins head to head against MU, etc, etc

[Tugg Speedman]

I don't think they are non-descript at all, not sure why you lumped me into that argument.  

Because when you say "MU is not as good as UW" it's often worded as a shot against MU.  Something is wrong with MU that they are not as good as UW.

You do not portray it as UW has had a remarkable run.  

[Pakuni]

Happy now?

[Tugg Speedman]

Interesting measurement.  The problem is that its a stupid argument since program success isn't measured in Kenpom rankings.  No one does that.

So top 10 rankings at the end of the season is a stupid measurement?