Final 2010 RSCI is out

[Marquette84]

I've included the individual rankings since some might like the breakout.

48:  Vander Blue
Improved 5 spots from Summer 2009

Rob Harrington (Prep Stars): Unranked
Van Coleman/Bob Gibbons (Hoopmasters):  35
Dave Telep (Insiders Hoops): 34
Brick Ottenger (Prepstars) 90
Rivals Hoops: 24
Scouts Inc. (ESPN): 31

74. Jamail Jones
Improved 10 spotgs from Summer 2009

Rob Harrington (Prep Stars): 67
Van Coleman/Bob Gibbons (Hoopmasters):  96
Dave Telep (Insiders Hoops): Unranked
Brick Ottenger (Prepstars) 79
Rivals Hoops: 52
Scouts Inc. (ESPN): 53


Other players of interest:

14. Fab Melo (Syracuse)
28. Roscoe Smith (UConn)
31. Dion Waiters (Syracuse)
37. Justin Coleman (Louisville)
42. Nate Lubick (Georgetown)
46. Jayvaughan Pinkston (Villanova)
48. Blue
67. J J Moore (Pittsburgh)
69. Gorjui Sy Dieng (Louisville)
74. Jones
75. Shabazz Napier (UConn)
78. Jeremy Lamb (UConn)
90. Dwayne Polee (St. Johns)
94. Markel Stakrs (Georgetown)
95. Evan Anderson (Wisconsin)
96. CJ Fair (Syracuse)

[NersEllenson]

The fact Evan Anderson is rated 95 makes the RSCI highly questionable..

[GOMU1104]

The fact Evan Anderson is rated 95 makes the RSCI highly questionable..

Actually, its probably the best way to judge a player, rankings wise. Instead of looking at just Scout, Rivals, or ESPN, the RSCI takes many lists, puts them in a formula and creates their Top 100.

Regarding Evan Anderson, consider this, from RSCIhoops.com:

By its very nature the RSCI rankings get less and less accurate the further down the list you move.  The reason is twofold.  First, the affect of a single, high rating from one expert can effectively override the prevailing opinion of the other experts that may have left the player off their lists entirely. Also, a player that just narrowly misses making 1 or more top 100 lists receives no points from those lists and is not effectively distinguished from all the others that were not ranked.  For example, a guy ranked #101 gets the same zero points as a guy ranked #250 even though they clearly aren't that close.  Stated simply: "a miss is as good as a mile."

Anderson was ranked #78 by Rob Harrington and #68 by Brick Oettinger.

[ChicosBailBonds]

The fact Evan Anderson is rated 95 makes the RSCI highly questionable..

The RSCI is just an assortment of other ratings.  It's not a rating itself, but the culmination of many other ratings.  What it shows you is that many other services had him ranked highly enough to put him at 95 overall.

[NersEllenson]

Actually, its probably the best way to judge a player, rankings wise. Instead of looking at just Scout, Rivals, or ESPN, the RSCI takes many lists, puts them in a formula and creates their Top 100.

Anderson was ranked #78 by Rob Harrington and #68 by Brick Oettinger.

Any chance Harrington and Oettinger have ties to UW..I mean they rated Anderson the highest..Yet one didn't EVEN RANK Vander (Harrington) and Oettinger had him 90th.  I mean come on..Vander made the US under 18 team and all other services have him 35, 34, 31, 24...

Very suspect to say the least...

[MarkCharles]

Any chance Harrington and Oettinger have ties to UW..I mean they rated Anderson the highest..Yet one didn't EVEN RANK Vander (Harrington) and Oettinger had him 90th.  I mean come on..Vander made the US under 18 team and all other services have him 35, 34, 31, 24...

Very suspect to say the least...

That was my first thought when I saw those numbers. I know its a small sample size, but to have two outliers like that makes me scratch my head. Especially when much larger, respected services have Vander rated essentially the same. I have no idea how any respected ranking service could rate Evan Anderson, whose stock has otherwise plummeted, ahead of a starter on the U18 USA team...

[bma725]

Any chance Harrington and Oettinger have ties to UW..I mean they rated Anderson the highest..Yet one didn't EVEN RANK Vander (Harrington) and Oettinger had him 90th.  I mean come on..Vander made the US under 18 team and all other services have him 35, 34, 31, 24...

Very suspect to say the least...

None at all.  In fact, they are often criticized for their anti midwest bias, so having Anderson in there at all tells you how good they think he really is.  They have been consistently the outliers on Vander, and admit as much.  They've been consistently down on him compared to other people, and Oettinger admits as much.  He has seen Vander play multiple times and just doesn't agree with the other people who rate him higher, often making comments about the fact that he thinks the others are wrong and Vander simply isn't the kind of player those guys think he is. 

[bma725]

Van Coleman/Bob Gibbons (Hoopmasters):

FWIW, Gibbons left Hoopmasters a few years ago to go to ESPN and start Scouts Inc.  He then parted ways with ESPN last year, and restarted the Bob Gibbons All Star Report.  His rankings were included in the initial pre-summer RSCI from last year, but he hasn't updated them since December, so his opinion is not part of this version of the RSCI.

[NersEllenson]

None at all.  In fact, they are often criticized for their anti midwest bias, so having Anderson in there at all tells you how good they think he really is.  They have been consistently the outliers on Vander, and admit as much.  They've been consistently down on him compared to other people, and Oettinger admits as much.  He has seen Vander play multiple times and just doesn't agree with the other people who rate him higher, often making comments about the fact that he thinks the others are wrong and Vander simply isn't the kind of player those guys think he is. 

Interesting...though somehow I have a feeling Vander will have a much bigger impact at MU in his career, than will Anderson at UW.  I'm not one who thinks Vander is going to be a star as a freshman, but think he will put up about 8-10ppg, and a few assists...I can't seen Anderson contributing ANYTHING his first 2 years at UW....regardless of what Oettinger/Harrington admit/say..they have a very, very peculiar opinion when measured against the other so called "experts," on high school talent evaluation..curious to say the least.

[Dawson Rental]

Interesting...though somehow I have a feeling Vander will have a much bigger impact at MU in his career, than will Anderson at UW.  I'm not one who thinks Vander is going to be a star as a freshman, but think he will put up about 8-10ppg, and a few assists...I can't seen Anderson contributing ANYTHING his first 2 years at UW....regardless of what Oettinger/Harrington admit/say..they have a very, very peculiar opinion when measured against the other so called "experts," on high school talent evaluation..curious to say the least.

A while back, (prior to his senior year) somebody had Anderson rated in the top 20 if not 10.  I'm sure that he might be hanging in the top 100 now because Oettinger/Harrington/whomever must be influenced to think; "I couldn't have been that wrong."  I think that Anderson will have a nice career at UW, but nothing that's gonna have NC and Duke crying about missing out on him.

[bma725]

A while back, (prior to his senior year) somebody had Anderson rated in the top 20 if not 10.  I'm sure that he might be hanging in the top 100 now because Oettinger/Harrington/whomever must be influenced to think; "I couldn't have been that wrong."  I think that Anderson will have a nice career at UW, but nothing that's gonna have NC and Duke crying about missing out on him.

If you look at their ratings, that doesn't appear to be the case.  Harrington had Anderson at #83 prior to his senior year and moved him up to #76 in his most recent ranking.  Oettinger had him at #67 and moved him down only one spot to #68.

Anderson was, at one point, ranked in the Top 20 by most services but that was back when he was a freshman/sophomore.