Realistic expectation for marquette after alignment

[KipsBayEagle]

I see Marquette staying in the big east.  All the football programs will be gone with the exception of Notre Dame who will remain independent.  That leaves a core of

Marquette
Villanova
Georgetown
Notre Dame
St. Johns
Seton Hall
Depaul
Providence

This leaves a decent core that retains the big east name, and retains the right to play their tournament in msg.  I think Xavier, Butler, Temple, Saint Josephs are added at least, with the possibility of a few more.  This makes a solid basketball conference that retains the big east game.  Could be beteer, could be worse.  What do you think will happen to Marquette?

[Dawson Rental]

Everybody seems to forget that Temple has a football team.  And its actually been improving lately.

I don't see the need for a 12 team conference, Butler and Xavier would do it for me.  Dayton, Detroit and St. Louis would also be possibilities.  I don't know that Villanova would want another Philly team (St. Joe's) in the fold.  St. Louis usually has very good attendance figures, a move to the Big East would do their recruiting good, although they already seem to have Australia all to themselves.

[chapman]

Though they would be an asset to a conference like this, I still see Georgetown being very easy to get into the ACC, whether it would be as team #13 or team #17, since they're usually a post-season lock, at least three of their current Big East rivals would be there as well, and they have great television appeal.  No problem with Xavier, Butler, Temple, or St. Joe's joining, and I'd even cap the A10 teams with them only. 

This also assumes a perfect split: the Big 12 leftovers go to the Mountain West, four of the 8 Big East teams go to the Big Ten, and four likely to the ACC.  If it isn't a "perfect split" and the Big Ten takes Missouri and/or Kansas OR the SEC takes any non-ACC or non-BE school OR the ACC takes any non-Big East school there's going to be one or two football schools left out of expansion.  If it happens to be Cincinnati or Louisville or both, they're left out of the BCS and essentially screwed.  If Temple can keep its basketball away from the MAC, so can these schools, which would mean they could go to the MAC to have somewhere to play football and join this Big East lineup for basketball and everything else...such a situation with football schools getting "screwed over" also happens if Notre Dame takes a conference spot for football...they're going to be in trouble finding the competition for their other "Olympic" sports in a conference like this, which is supposedly of importance.

[Pakuni]

All the football teams will be gone?
Where are they going?
The SEC is unlikely to expand, and if they don't expand, neither will the ACC. As for as the SEC is concerned, adding teams for the sake of adding teams simply dilutes their brand name and product.
The Rutgers to the Big Televen ship appears to have sailed.
So where are UConn, WVU, Cincy, Louisville, Rutgers, etc., all going?
The best thing that could have happened to the Big East - besides nothing - is the Pac-10/Big Televen raid on the Big 12.

[ChicosBailBonds]

All the football teams will be gone?
Where are they going?
The SEC is unlikely to expand, and if they don't expand, neither will the ACC. As for as the SEC is concerned, adding teams for the sake of adding teams simply dilutes their brand name and product.
The Rutgers to the Big Televen ship appears to have sailed.
So where are UConn, WVU, Cincy, Louisville, Rutgers, etc., all going?
The best thing that could have happened to the Big East - besides nothing - is the Pac-10/Big Televen raid on the Big 12.

Short term, perhaps.  Long term, I don't think so.  The one thing going for the non-breakup of the Big East football is that the SEC television contract was just done.  This is what is driving the Pac Ten to take the action they are taking, their new tv deal is next year.

But longer term, the SEC and ACC have huge television contracts coming up and when that happens, they will need the additional content to grab the dollars in order to keep up with the arms race, especially if the Big Ten and Pac Ten tv deals explode (which they both likely will)

[Dawson Rental]

Short term, perhaps.  Long term, I don't think so.  The one thing going for the non-breakup of the Big East football is that the SEC television contract was just done.  This is what is driving the Pac Ten to take the action they are taking, their new tv deal is next year.

But longer term, the SEC and ACC have huge television contracts coming up and when that happens, they will need the additional content to grab the dollars in order to keep up with the arms race, especially if the Big Ten and Pac Ten tv deals explode (which they both likely will)

Yes, but will they chose to do so by going after lesser teams?  Will that allow them to keep up?  With enough time to think this through, I won't be surprised to see both conferences breaking up with the cream of the crop from each forming a 12 to 16 team super conference.

[Aughnanure]

Short term, perhaps.  Long term, I don't think so.  The one thing going for the non-breakup of the Big East football is that the SEC television contract was just done.  This is what is driving the Pac Ten to take the action they are taking, their new tv deal is next year.

But longer term, the SEC and ACC have huge television contracts coming up and when that happens, they will need the additional content to grab the dollars in order to keep up with the arms race, especially if the Big Ten and Pac Ten tv deals explode (which they both likely will)

The conference that scares me the most is the SEC. They have been strangely silent in all this, and they will be ever to get whatever they want out of the Big12, Big East and ACC leftovers.

If Missouri is left at the alter by the Big-Ten, maybe the SEC goes west, add Kansas also maybe (stressing maybe, b/c Kansas wouldnt add a new market with Mizzou). North Carolina, NC State, Virginia Tech and Miami are all real possibilities for the SEC that greatly expand its television market impact. I dont by them going after Georgia Tech and Clemson at all. Florida State maybe if Florida is okay with it.

[Dawson Rental]

The conference that scares me the most is the SEC. They have been strangely silent in all this, and they will be ever to get whatever they want out of the Big12, Big East and ACC leftovers.

If Missouri is left at the alter by the Big-Ten, maybe the SEC goes west, add Kansas also maybe (stressing maybe, b/c Kansas wouldnt add a new market with Mizzou). North Carolina, NC State, Virginia Tech and Miami are all real possibilities for the SEC that greatly expand its television market impact. I dont by them going after Georgia Tech and Clemson at all. Florida State maybe if Florida is okay with it.

What ACC leftovers?  It's unlikely the ACC loses anybody unless the SEC makes the first snatch which will not be easy except for maybe a few teams that the SEC wouldn't be targeting anyway.