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goodgreatgrand

Im not sure about the Independent idea. I think the A-10 sounds like a better idea to me (or wherever Nova and GTown go). Either way, the options blow.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: IAmMarquette on June 04, 2010, 08:40:01 AM

Forgive me for being dense...what's the connection?

Because if MU is put into a secondary conference, the margin for error is so much smaller.  Your strength of schedule goes down (a huge part of the RPI and selection process), your ability to get top recruits could be hampered (not definite but could), power conferences currently take up most of the at-large bids.....an increase in bids would allow more secondary conferences to get bids....that's the connection.


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The thing about Nova and GTown is that they both have successful football teams that are not BCS or whatever it is called now (think they are FBS maybe? someone please correct me I can never keep the new names straight).  If this shift starts to happen they may raise them up to join a BCS conference or have a chance to.  I know there was talk of it in the past, yet I do not know how close they are.  So maybe it would be best if it happened soon if Nova and GTown were not able to raise the programs fast enough.

chapman

Quote from: Arod on June 04, 2010, 12:48:19 PM
The thing about Nova and GTown is that they both have successful football teams that are not BCS or whatever it is called now (think they are FBS maybe? someone please correct me I can never keep the new names straight).  If this shift starts to happen they may raise them up to join a BCS conference or have a chance to.  I know there was talk of it in the past, yet I do not know how close they are.  So maybe it would be best if it happened soon if Nova and GTown were not able to raise the programs fast enough.

FCS - Football Championship Subdivision, where more than two media hand-picked teams play for a championship.  Thing is, if you're the ACC or SEC why do you take Nova or Georgetown with a new-to-FBS program when you can get to the "ideal" number by adding Syracuse or West Virginia, or even Memphis or UCF?

goodgreatgrand

Quote from: chapman on June 04, 2010, 01:49:52 PM
FCS - Football Championship Subdivision, where more than two media hand-picked teams play for a championship.  Thing is, if you're the ACC or SEC why do you take Nova or Georgetown with a new-to-FBS program when you can get to the "ideal" number by adding Syracuse or West Virginia, or even Memphis or UCF?

Agreed. If SEC takes Miami and FSU (which makes sense) then the ACC should patch with BE teams by taking Syracuse (which was extended an invite the first time around) and one other school (maybe UConn so the conference can solidify the Northeast better and help out BC). If they go to 16, then throw in WV, Pitt, 'Ville and Rutgirls. 

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: chapman on June 04, 2010, 01:49:52 PM
FCS - Football Championship Subdivision, where more than two media hand-picked teams play for a championship.  Thing is, if you're the ACC or SEC why do you take Nova or Georgetown with a new-to-FBS program when you can get to the "ideal" number by adding Syracuse or West Virginia, or even Memphis or UCF?

I work with a Nova grad who is fairly well connected.  We spoke yesterday about all this and asked him what options he thought they have since they play football.  He started laughing.  "If you call what we have as football then I shutter to think what they play over in Alabama or USC"

RawdogDX

This can't be right.  I was told over and over again that adding teams to a big conference doesn't make sense because it wouldn't increase their TV contract enough to make up for having to split that contract with additional school.

We don't have to worry about becoming a mid major.  Eventually every conference will have 14 bb schools and 12 fb schools.  We'll be one of those 14 somewhere.

goodgreatgrand


GOMU1104

Quote from: Arod on June 04, 2010, 12:48:19 PM
The thing about Nova and GTown is that they both have successful football teams that are not BCS or whatever it is called now (think they are FBS maybe?

Georgetown does not have a successful football team.  Nova yes...Georgetown not at all.

RawdogDX

Quote from: goodgreatgrand on June 04, 2010, 02:23:31 PM
14 bball and 12 fball.

What makes you think that?

It seems like the largest managable numbers.

avid1010

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on June 03, 2010, 08:01:08 PM
The point is to try and get into a position where you have SOME control over some aspects to it.  I have to agree that Cottingham is talking to other schools (he sure as hell better be) to at least gauge what everyone is doing.

Maybe the Big East basketball schools stay in tact, keep the name, add the A-10 and a few others, who knows.

I just hope we aren't sitting around and waiting for the music to stop and waiting to see if there are any chairs left.  MU is in a tough spot on this because we chose to ditch football, pray we stay good and relevant the next few years.


By the way, can you imagine where we would be if the administration, TC, Dwyane Wade, etc didn't put us back on the map in the 2000s?  Basically MU would be done....toast...

Give it a rest...you're a broken record with your love for TC, and your second love which appears to be telling Cottingham to have a plan.  Genius!

Chicago_inferiority_complexes

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on June 03, 2010, 08:01:08 PM

By the way, can you imagine where we would be if the administration, TC, Dwyane Wade, etc didn't put us back on the map in the 2000s?  Basically MU would be done....toast...


Chicos, I am sure you would agree that anything Marquette accomplishes is in spite of the administration.

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