Big Ten pushing again to add another team

[JWags85]

The talk in college hockey circles is that the Big Twelven wants to make hockey a sanctioned sport.  Apparently Penn State is considering fielding a DI ice hockey team and the fear is that the Big Twelven would create its own league thereby gutting the CCHA and leaving only the small schools to fend for themselves.

Of course, I could be wrong...

The Big Ten hockey conference is a long ways off.  PSU has been considering a team for awhile and Illinois upgrading their club team has also been talked about.  However, getting a hockey team started from essentially scratch is extremely difficult.  Its not like PSU is playing D-II or something.  They would most likely get absolutely embarrassed their first couple years and I don't know if a Big Ten conference would like that happening to one of their members. 

Additionally, there would only be 6 teams, and thats not alot for a conference, especially if you are wanting a balanced schedule, respect, auto-bid to the NCAAs, etc...  Thus they would probably have to bring in another 2 schools or so.  Notre Dame and Miami of Ohio have been briefly mentioned in that capacity.  But both are doubtful because despite their wishes, the B10 hockey conference is a LONG way from coming to pass.

Also, BC would never leave Hockey East and their rivalries with BU and others to join the B10 for hockey.

This expansion could be very likely, however, I don't think hockey will come into play in any way.

[warthog-driver]

Someone here bragged about his MBA degree from Harvard.  There are programs at various Big Ten universities that are more highly regarded than Harvard's, including the MBA program at at least one of them. 

First off, there was no bragging. Here are some rankings of the top B-Schools:



Business Week

1. Chicago
2. HBS
3. Northwestern
4. Penn
5. Michigan
6. Stanford
7. Columbia
8. Duke
9. MIT
10. Cal


US News

1. HBS
2. Stanford
3. Northwestern
3. Penn
5. MIT
5. Chicago
7. Cal
8. Dartmouth
9. Columbia
10. Yale

WSJ

1. HBS
2. Stanford
3. Northwestern
4. Penn
5. Michigan
6. Chicago
7. MIT
8. Columbia
9. Cal
10. Dartmouth

[PBRme]

Last year while in Kansas City I heard  a local sports radio guy say it would be logical for Kansa, Nebraska, and Missouri bolt the Big Twelve for a Big Eleven Fourteen.  He said they would be on more equal footing in recruiting than competing with the OSU and OU's of the world and then the new conference could have two 7 team leagues and maybe one or two crossover games.  Kansas would add to the BBall status and Nebraska to the Fball status.

[Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup]

Would Mizzou have that much incentive to switch? If so, why not Kansas? That makes just as much sense.

If they snatch a Big East school, I'd agree that Memphis makes the jump from CUSA. I don't think BC's budging.

It's currently written into the Big Ten bylaws that any expansion has to either be within a current Big 10 territory (state), or in an adjoining territory (state).

Memphis or Kansas would not work for that reason.

[martyconlonontherun]

http://www.aau.edu/about/article.aspx?id=5476
It has to be one of these schools since the Big Ten requires you to be a member.

I also don't understand the logic people use.
The question why a team would join a competitive football conference and at the same time wonder why they would want to leave the competitive BEast for BBall? Can't have it both ways.

Also, it comes down to the benjamins, I think the BEast is a better conference and am proud MU is part of it, but if a school gets an opportunity I would say they would leave the BEast for the Big Ten solely for the guaranteed Bowl game money that is split between the 12 schools.

[hoyasincebirth]

1) The only schools that the Big 10 is looking at that might consider jumping would be pitt and rutgers. Missouri won't leave the b12 and their rivalry with kansas.
2) Gtown is no where close to moving up to real football(we lost every single game this year) If we got a crap load of money we could field a successful team in I-A but realistically we're a hell of a lot more likely to scrap football then move up. Nova seems to be moving in that direction but still is probably a while off. Gtown plays in the patriot. nova doesn't not sure what their league is.
3) I think what most likely happens is nothing. Big 10 really should look to a good mid major. Rutgers is the big east team most likely to be willing to leave but the team the big 10 probably wants the least. Not sure why Big10 is so high and mighty about academics. honestly outside of NWestern and Michigan their schools are not academically impressive. maybe i'm just a snob going to georgetown though.

[twisted]

Aside from academics, is the Big 10 THAT much more exclusive than the Big 12? Would Mizzou have that much incentive to switch? If so, why not Kansas? That makes just as much sense. And don't say "because KU has K-State as its rival," because I'd be willing to bet that 95% of KU fans care more about beating Mizzou than K-State.

I think the Big 10 would want Mizzou, but Iowa State has more to gain--in-state rival w/ Iowa; Mizzou has a better academic reputation and facilities, so Iowa State needs the affiliation.

If they snatch a Big East school, I'd agree that Memphis makes the jump from CUSA. I don't think BC's budging.

Uh, scuse me, but ISU is one of the top academic schools in the Big 12 - Leads the Big 12 is student athlete graduation rates and academic performance. No way the Big 12 lets them go. Mizzou and ISU are founding charter members of the Big 6 as well. Many Big 12 championships happen in Kansas City, beneficial to both of theses schools. Each of these schools recruit heavily from Texas as well, which helps when playing in the Big 12. If any Big 12 school is open to leaving the Big 12, it is Colorado.

[ChicosBailBonds]

More on this today


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=4745381

[GGGG]

1) The only schools that the Big 10 is looking at that might consider jumping would be pitt and rutgers. Missouri won't leave the b12 and their rivalry with kansas.

Missouri practically begged the Big Ten for admittance when Penn State was added.  That might have changed over the past 15 years but still...

[warthog-driver]

Missouri practically begged the Big Ten for admittance when Penn State was added.  That might have changed over the past 15 years but still...

Mizzou would love to be in the Big 10. They have a very strong rivalry with Illinois, too.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Articles from today.

The consensus among Big Ten sources, officials from other conferences and TV executives is that Rutgers offers the best package. Missouri is second and Pittsburgh third.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-big-ten-expansion-side-mar02,0,4339535.story

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0302-big-ten-foot--20100301,0,2940944.column

[goodgreatgrand]

Interesting comments from John Marinatto about Villanova football. If there was a split in the BE, could they join the fball members?

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/7507/qa-with-big-east-commissioner-john-marinatto-part-ii

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[The Lens]

Interesting comments from John Marinatto about Villanova football. If there was a split in the BE, could they join the fball members?

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/7507/qa-with-big-east-commissioner-john-marinatto-part-ii

Scroll half way down.

Just assuming that we'll magically end up in the same conf as Georgetown and Nova is a recipe for disaster.

[GGGG]

Interesting comments from John Marinatto about Villanova football. If there was a split in the BE, could they join the fball members?

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/7507/qa-with-big-east-commissioner-john-marinatto-part-ii

Scroll half way down.

The problem with that is that the BE is already by far the weakest BCS conference.  Adding a recent FCS member just waters them down even more.

[goodgreatgrand]

Sagarins final 2009 rankings showed Nova as 30th in the nation.
 

[TheButlerDidIt]

The Big East would probably start adding CUSA schools to get up to the magic football school number of 12...

[goodgreatgrand]

Don't suggest that to Pitt or Cuse fans like I did. What a mistake that was! They destroyed my suggestion and our manager had to practically settle them down (a UConn alum). it's obviously a touchy subject here.

[CrimsonNCrean]

There are rumors of Texas joining, they tried to get in when Penn St. joined and the Big 11 turned them down.  Now the rumors are starting up again.  I think the conference will add 3 teams and I believe that the schools they want would be in this order....
ND
Texas, if Texas joins Texas A & M would have to come also.
Mizzu
Rutgers
Pitt
Syracuse

They want to get into the east coast media market bad, so I believe Rutgers and or Syracuse will happen.

I wish Marquette still had football, they would be a no brainer to join.

Congrats on great year so far in BB....   I think all you MU fans were correct about TC  ......    He is really struggling at IU, I think he is in way over his head.  He has not done one thing to impress me so far.

But oh well, 5 more years of average ball wont kill us IU fans....  after all the last relevant team IU had was in 94...   outside of the lucky run in 02.