Let's Think Rationally About This...

[ChicosBailBonds]

The "ghost of TC" will be gone at MU in a couple of years. Same for the "ghost of KS" at Indiana.

The ghost of KS looks like the grim reaper...the ghost of TC looks like Casper.

[Lennys Tap]

Is the ghost of TC going to make appearances after wins, or just after losses?

Oh, and I couldn't care less about whatever is going on at IU. I'm an MU fan, and this is an MU board.

The ghost of TC appears on this board on a daily basis - win, lose or draw. Since the post you refer to is a reply to a Chicos post (a proud Indiana alum don't you know) I couldn't care less what you think.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

The ghost of TC appears on this board on a daily basis - win, lose or draw. Since the post you refer to is a reply to a Chicos post (a proud Indiana alum don't you know) I couldn't care less what you think.

That's fine. I'll leave the IU stuff to you and Chicos.

I'm just trying to be clear that it seems like Crean's ghost only shows up when things go wrong. Nobody is going to bring up Crean when things go right.

Again, I really like Buzz, and I'm optimistic for the future, but it just seems like nothing can be his fault. It will always be Crean's.

This is the Buzz Williams era!

[DarkWarrior]

YES YES YES.... I love this team!!! If Buzz can keep this team in a positive mindset I like what he is doing with this ragtag fugitive force of a team!!! I think we might just have some fun before this year is over. Buzz is a strange communicator at times but I think he is connecting with these kids. I have almost enjoyed these painful losses because I anticipated a year of disasterous losses. GO BUZZ!    

[akmarq]

What the hell are you talking about Chico? Once we got past last year the cupboard was bare for a number of reasons, virtually every one of them related to Tanned Tommy's decison to leave MU. Defections happened because he turned his back on MU - there is a causal relationship at play here. I put the blame for the defections squarely on Crean for his act of selfishness. He took care of himself in a gutless manner with zero regard for any member of the MU community.

So your argument is that because Tom Crean left MU, he should be blamed for our failures two years later. By this logic, TC would have to have stayed at MU forever because leaving would screw us over and make us bad, which he is not allowed to do.

As much as we hate to admit it, IU is a better job than Marquette. Just is. He was going to make more money, run a more prestigious program, and get a better crack at top recruits. It's also one more stepping stone to his dream job (MSU).

You cannot blame Tom Crean for leaving. You can dislike the way he leaves, but saying its his fault we lose because he left is like saying it's Buzz's fault that New Orleans U loses because he left for MU.

[ChicosBailBonds]

The ghost of TC appears on this board on a daily basis - win, lose or draw. Since the post you refer to is a reply to a Chicos post (a proud Indiana alum don't you know) I couldn't care less what you think.

The ghost appears because someone else brings it up here every damn day.  Very very rarely will you see me bring him up first in any thread, almost always it's someone else that just can't help themselves from bringing it up every friggin time.

This thread is just example 10,000 of what I'm talking about.

[MilWarrior]

And you can't help yourself to constantly egg them on by instantly jumping to Crean's defense.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

And you can't help yourself to constantly egg them on by instantly jumping to Crean's defense.

I can't speak for Chico's, but I can tell you that I'm not defending Tom Crean.

I'm simply pointing out that he isn't the source of all of MU's problems/losses like everybody likes to pretend.

Buzz isn't the responsible for every UNO loss this season.

Crean isn't responsible for every MU loss this season.

[Lennys Tap]

I can't speak for Chico's, but I can tell you that I'm not defending Tom Crean.

I'm simply pointing out that he isn't the source of all of MU's problems/losses like everybody likes to pretend.

Buzz isn't the responsible for every UNO loss this season.

Crean isn't responsible for every MU loss this season.

I couldn't care less about whatever is going on at UNO. I'm an MU fan, and this is an MU board.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I couldn't care less about whatever is going on at UNO. I'm an MU fan, and this is an MU board.

Oh come on, Lennys.

Are you just bored and just trying to start an argument?

Why the pissy responses?

I could just respond with "I wasn't replying to you", (like you did to me earlier) but that would just start a new argument.

Can't we all just talk/post without it turning bitchy?

[ChicosBailBonds]

And you can't help yourself to constantly egg them on by instantly jumping to Crean's defense.

Too funny.  I'm egging them on when 99% of the time someone else starts it?  I guess that's a new form of egging on.  Classic.  But yeah, I will inject facts into the discussion when facts are not there.  If that's a problem, too bad.

Some of us are capable of respecting what Crean did and what Buzz is doing, I'm sorry you and others are incapable of that.

If you don't want to talk about Crean, then stop bringing him up in every damn thread.  It's really quite simple.

[MilWarrior]

Too funny.  I'm egging them on when 99% of the time someone else starts it?  I guess that's a new form of egging on.  Classic.  But yeah, I will inject facts into the discussion when facts are not there.  If that's a problem, too bad.

Some of us are capable of respecting what Crean did and what Buzz is doing, I'm sorry you and others are incapable of that.

If you don't want to talk about Crean, then stop bringing him up in every damn thread.  It's really quite simple.

What do you mean someone "starts it"? Are they personally attacking you and you need to respond? That's why I consider it egging them on. You don't need to respond every single time Crean is brought up. Too funny.