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dolly4512

get him out of this game. all games. buycks is a walking turnover, but he may be decent ballhandler by year-end.

ecompt

Hopefully Blue and Junior are ready to go 25-30 minutes each next season.

RJax55

Quote from: dolly4512 on December 05, 2009, 03:37:39 PM
buycks is a walking turnover, but he may be decent ballhandler by year-end.

Buycks has been just terrible.... Also, Hayward has been a turnover machine this half as well. Really tough to watch.

ecompt

I fear the pressure is really going to get to Lazar once BE play starts. He'll be double-teamed every time he touches the ball.

Doctor V


madtownwarrior

your niece probably does not make as many lazy passes as acker...

jenningstoMU

your niece can probably slow down dribble penetration more effectively

avid1010

Quote from: dolly4512 on December 05, 2009, 03:37:39 PM
get him out of this game. all games. buycks is a walking turnover, but he may be decent ballhandler by year-end.

They have four guards...I think it's pretty obvious that Buzz doesn't recruit anyone of Coobie or Acker's size.  He did his job in recruiting three decent guards, unfortunately Junior is out.  Can they go with a two guard line-up?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: dolly4512 on December 05, 2009, 03:37:39 PM
get him out of this game. all games. buycks is a walking turnover, but he may be decent ballhandler by year-end.

Well he scored 10 points and had 7 assists with 2 turnovers.  The other option, had 5 turnovers (again, second straight week), 1 assist and 7 points.  DB needs to slow it down, he's doing a McNeal turnover impression out there at times.

More than anything, I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that MU is probably who many of us thought they were.  Michigan sucks right now, that win doesn't look good.  FSU got destroyed the other day by Ohio State, not sure how good they are. Xavier isn't lighting it up either.  So our play in the Old Spice got a lot of folks excited, but doesn't look like the competition was as good as the names on the front of the jerseys.


NavinRJohnson

I have a girl on my 5th grade team that is taller than Acker. The team we played today had a girl that was just as tall, and probably outweighed him by 10 lbs.

I agree that they are looking much like what they were expected to be. Anyone want to repeat their questioning of my pessimistic (realistic) view of the PG position like they did after the Michigan game?

77ncaachamps

Slowing it down is a great idea especially for the second half.

MU has been a - so far - consistent out-of-the-gate team but fatigue and adjustments do them in.

Slowing the ball down in the second half may just preserve those legs a little more and settle the team down.
SS Marquette

ATL MU Warrior

The guard position is not why we've lost the last two games and it won't be why we lose most of the other games we lose this year. 

The reason we lose games is because our frontcourt is woefully undersized and if the opposing team has a decent, athletic big guy (or god forbid two of them) we have absolutely no capacity to stop them.  Granted, if our guards can't stop dribble penetration that greatly exacerbates our lack of of frontcourt size...BUT our greatest weakness and what's killing us isn't the backcourt, it's our "big" guys.  We have no interior defense...we have no post-up offense...we have no dependable rebounding. 
 
Our guards aren't great...they are doing o.k...

we'll see what happens in the Big East. 
 

Jam Chowder

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on December 05, 2009, 08:41:35 PM
I have a girl on my 5th grade team that is taller than Acker. The team we played today had a girl that was just as tall, and probably outweighed him by 10 lbs.

You play on a team of 5th grade girls? You must be unstoppable.

Doctor V

Quote from: BirkieWarrior on December 06, 2009, 01:21:43 AM
You play on a team of 5th grade girls? You must be unstoppable.

What is navin is a 5th grade girl herself? Id be impressed

CTWarrior

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 05, 2009, 09:55:31 PM
The guard position is not why we've lost the last two games and it won't be why we lose most of the other games we lose this year. 

The reason we lose games is because our frontcourt is woefully undersized and if the opposing team has a decent, athletic big guy (or god forbid two of them) we have absolutely no capacity to stop them.  Granted, if our guards can't stop dribble penetration that greatly exacerbates our lack of of frontcourt size...BUT our greatest weakness and what's killing us isn't the backcourt, it's our "big" guys.  We have no interior defense...we have no post-up offense...we have no dependable rebounding. 
 
Our guards aren't great...they are doing o.k...

we'll see what happens in the Big East. 
 

I sorta agree with this comment, but we really don't have a BCS conference level PG, either.   Our playing roster is all 2 guards and small forwards, plus Acker, who is valiant and a great kid, blah, blah, blah but not very good.  I love Hayward, but he cannot score in the low post.  We are a PG and 2 good PF/Cs away from being a contender for anything important.  Hopefully Cadougan will be that PG, but as good as our other recruits are they're just more 2/3s.

Our defense is predicated on quickness, getting in the passing lanes.  That works for a while, but it is near impossible to keep the necessary intensity to play that kind of defense for 40 minutes if you are playing 7 guys.

Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
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Markusquette

Let's just take it one game at a time....I feel like everyone has way too high of expectations.  Just remember we are a young team that doesn't have too much experience playing cohesively yet.  I'm not saying I expect a great season, but just give it a bit more time.  I'm hoping we can bounce back and win some nice games. As a whole I would say Acker has been playing alright.  

The team as a whole is not performing at a high level right now, and everyone needs to improve on aspects of their game in order for us to win.  The early excitement made it seem like we weren't rebuilding...but we clearly are. And also, this topic is ridiculous.

tower912

Quote from: CTWarrior on December 06, 2009, 07:51:03 AM
I sorta agree with this comment, but we really don't have a BCS conference level PG, either.   Our playing roster is all 2 guards and small forwards, plus Acker, who is valiant and a great kid, blah, blah, blah but not very good.  I love Hayward, but he cannot score in the low post.  We are a PG and 2 good PF/Cs away from being a contender for anything important.  Hopefully Cadougan will be that PG, but as good as our other recruits are they're just more 2/3s.

Our defense is predicated on quickness, getting in the passing lanes.  That works for a while, but it is near impossible to keep the necessary intensity to play that kind of defense for 40 minutes if you are playing 7 guys.


Hmmmmmm.   A point guard and a center.    That reminds me of something....like maybe two guys currently on crutches.    Cadougan was supposed to be the third guard with Mo and Cubi for stability off of the bench.    Otule was starting.    Even 10 decent minutes a night from him would have made a difference the last  two games.
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Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2009, 07:36:27 PM
    Hmmmmmm.   A point guard and a center.    That reminds me of something....like maybe two guys currently on crutches.    Cadougan was supposed to be the third guard with Mo and Cubi for stability off of the bench.    Otule was starting.    Even 10 decent minutes a night from him would have made a difference the last  two games.
If we're talking key injuries, don't forget Liam.  Potentially could have been that center too.

Nukem2

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2009, 04:28:08 PM
Well he scored 10 points and had 7 assists with 2 turnovers.  The other option, had 5 turnovers (again, second straight week), 1 assist and 7 points.  DB needs to slow it down, he's doing a McNeal turnover impression out there at times.

More than anything, I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that MU is probably who many of us thought they were.  Michigan sucks right now, that win doesn't look good.  FSU got destroyed the other day by Ohio State, not sure how good they are. Xavier isn't lighting it up either.  So our play in the Old Spice got a lot of folks excited, but doesn't look like the competition was as good as the names on the front of the jerseys.


Unfortunately, all 10 points occurred in "garbage time".

ChicosBailBonds

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Quote from: Nukem2 on December 06, 2009, 09:51:01 PM
Unfortunately, all 10 points occurred in "garbage time".

Correct....all in the last 6 minutes of the game.  He only played 18 minutes total but got those 10 points.  DB and DC played 63 minutes and managed 12 points.

Not good production per minute, that's for sure.

TJ

Quote from: Nukem2 on December 06, 2009, 09:51:01 PM
Unfortunately, all 10 points occurred in "garbage time".
The amount of contempt towards Acker on this board is really getting out of hand.  It's not his fault he was recruited to the team.  It's not his fault injuries have forced him to take on a bigger role than you guys would like the last 2 years.  Sure, he's made some mistakes/been unable to do some things defensively, but he's done everything he's been asked to do on offense and it gets him nothing but scorn.  In the NC State game he played backup PG - he got some assists and didn't turn the ball over too much.  That's the extent of his job.

On top of that, he provides some points and now they don't count because it was too late in the game?  I know Buzz was still trying to win.  I saw them cut an 11 point lead down to 4 in 53 seconds thanks in part to Acker coming up huge and knocking down 2 threes.  (4 of his points came earlier by the way.)  I thought we just ran out of time; who knows what could have happened had we gone into desperation mode sooner.

Murffieus

Acker was one of the few bright spots Saturday---10 points on 50% shooting and 7 assists in 18 minutes------those are very good numbers.

On defense he's part of a systemic problem of not being able to handle ball screens----he's no worse than anyone else at that.

wyoMUfan

I think Acker played well, like the above stats dictate. Hey if you can take an acker bomb at the bar every time he hits a three, there is no reason to complain

Murffieus

Also he sparked the comeback----diving for loose balls and hitting treys.

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