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Jay Bee

Quote from: bilsu on September 19, 2009, 08:36:59 PM
Otule could improve 400% and still not get off the bench. I think Buzz needs to play Williams and Maymon.

   Completely on point.  Listen... you don't go from a center that can't get time on a team without a center to some stud in a year (or ever?).  I hope Otule gets biz and becomes a solid contributor, but to think he's some 30 minute guy that controls the paint is just stupid.  This season depends on X number of newcomers stepping up.  X depends on how and when.  It's not going to be Otule.
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SCdem@MU

Quote from: MUfan12 on September 18, 2009, 05:06:33 PM
The reason I posted that is you tend to be one of the more alarmist posters on this board. Here's my reasoned response-

How am I one of the more alarmist posters on this board? When James went down and everyone was doom and gloom, I (perhaps somewhat stupidly) thought we would be alright in the BE tourney and still make the Sweet 16 in the NCAA's.

Multiple experts list Cadougan as the key to our season this year, losing him is big and losing DJO for 6 weeks will definitely slow down his development.

In case you didn't notice our BE schedule starts out with @WV, Villanova, G-town, @Villanova. The Old Spice Classic, NC State, and @Wisconsin games are also going to be extremely tough with a Sun Belt PG and a short bench.




DomJamesToTheBasket

Losing Cadougan obviously really hurts this team. I'm not so sure the sky is falling, though.  I thought Buycks would win the starting PG position prior to JC's injury.  Now, I see Buycks as a 30+ mpg PG.  We have no depth right now, but as it stands, I think we have quality guys playing all the minutes.....one more injury and we are up the creek.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on September 19, 2009, 02:39:57 PM
You've taken a pretty rosy view of the situation.

In 24 hours, we've lost two players who were considered starter-material. One of them has been very good during summer scrimmages whom luckily we will get back but will lost time hurt him? The other was nearly a de facto starter (delayed a bit) since he committed and his loss is big even though he's never played a minute.

Not to mention the players left who have issues in Fulce with his health problems and Mbao who will have a suspension. Throw in two most likely starters in Buycks and Maymon that have never played at this level and you could see why some people think the season is teetering on the toilet.

exactly.  and if everyone is sure that DJO will be back and running around by Midnight Madness they are probably kidding themeselves.

Murffieus

Quote from: bilsu on September 19, 2009, 07:11:09 PM
I think Acker and Otule play together. Otule is not a ball handler and needs someone to get the ball to him. However, I believe it is time for Buzz to play his recruits. I think we will see Hayward, Williams, Butler and
Maymon on the floor with one guard a significant amount of the time. It sounds like Fulce is recovering and he can sub for any of the four swingmen.

bilsu-----getting the ball down low to the low postup isn't a high wire act----it can be taught-----rather basic stuff.

ecompt

True, Murff. But the low-post player has to catch the ball and then do something productive with it.

Norm

Quote from: Jay Bee on September 19, 2009, 08:47:36 PM
   Completely on point.  Listen... you don't go from a center that can't get time on a team without a center to some stud in a year (or ever?).  I hope Otule gets biz and becomes a solid contributor, but to think he's some 30 minute guy that controls the paint is just stupid.  This season depends on X number of newcomers stepping up.  X depends on how and when.  It's not going to be Otule.

Totally agree. From what we saw last season I cannot envision Otule starting this year. I'm hoping for about 10-15 minutes a game.

Marquette84

Quote from: Norm on September 21, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
Totally agree. From what we saw last season I cannot envision Otule starting this year. I'm hoping for about 10-15 minutes a game.

Of course, from what we saw of Chris Crawford's or Amal McCaskill's freshmen seasons, one couldn't imagine them starting either.

Because Otule missed so much time last year, I don't think you can base expectations on how he performed. 

Its a new season--let's give him the benefit of the doubt on his injury-plagued freshman season before making the blanket statements that he can't play.

Nukem2

Quote from: ecompt on September 21, 2009, 09:42:12 AM
True, Murff. But the low-post player has to catch the ball and then do something productive with it.
Actually, Otule catches the ball far better than Burke or Barro.  His problem, as Rosiak noted in his open-gym notes, is finishing to the basket.  He may not get 30 minutes; but, he is not as bad as some posters here portray him to be.

Norm

Quote from: Marquette84 on September 21, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Of course, from what we saw of Chris Crawford's or Amal McCaskill's freshmen seasons, one couldn't imagine them starting either.

Because Otule missed so much time last year, I don't think you can base expectations on how he performed. 

Its a new season--let's give him the benefit of the doubt on his injury-plagued freshman season before making the blanket statements that he can't play.


I hope you are right, but Otule seemed to be absolutely lost and in over his head every time he played last year. Crawford was much farther along and McCaskill at least showed some athleticism.

bilsu

I like Otule, but the problem with him is that he is virtually blind in one eye, which effects his depth perception. His hands are not bad, he does not handle passes well because of his eyes. Same probelm with scoring the ball.

SCdem@MU

Quote from: bilsu on September 21, 2009, 01:35:56 PM
I like Otule, but the problem with him is that he is virtually blind in one eye, which effects his depth perception. His hands are not bad, he does not handle passes well because of his eyes. Same probelm with scoring the ball.

This is the first I've heard of this. His glasses don't solve the issue? Is this something that lasik can't fix?

If that is true, why would you recruit a half-blind man to play basketball?

4everwarriors

Quote from: SCdem@MU on September 21, 2009, 02:34:46 PM
This is the first I've heard of this. His glasses don't solve the issue? Is this something that lasik can't fix?

If that is true, why would you recruit a half-blind man to play basketball?


Crean was desparate.
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 21, 2009, 03:32:26 PM

Crean was desparate.

But we were told this was a Buzz recruit with his Texas connections.  I'm so confused   ;D

Daniel

I thought it was more a drooping eye kind of thing rather than site or no site.  The gallses were protective too.  I don't know - maybe I'm remembering this wrong.... seems so long ago lol

bamamarquettefan

Wow, have been out-of-pocket for a while so just seeing this.  I apologize for thinking it was good to have Mo move on - very glad to have him back.
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