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Author Topic: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing  (Read 3004 times)

drewm88

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Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« on: February 24, 2009, 12:10:26 AM »
Down 1 under their own hoop with 1.5 to play, Harris takes a dribble towards half court, ball gets knocked away, grabs it out of the air, and throws up a prayer. Too bad he's a Badger.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=290223017
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 01:26:10 AM »
ya that was pretty cool. please tell me someone else saw brook lopez's comments after the game. dude sounds like a cave tard
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 08:53:11 AM »
Quote from: muhoosier260 on February 24, 2009, 01:26:10 AM
ya that was pretty cool. please tell me someone else saw brook lopez's comments after the game. dude sounds like a cave tard

Correction: Cave Tard that thinks he's a surfer- I thought I was watching some Cliche High School movie, and they were interviewing the stock "rad" character that wanted to hit the waves after the big game.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2009, 10:07:46 AM by g0lden3agle »
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 09:45:24 AM »
Quote from: drewm88 on February 24, 2009, 12:10:26 AM
Down 1 under their own hoop with 1.5 to play, Harris takes a dribble towards half court, ball gets knocked away, grabs it out of the air, and throws up a prayer. Too bad he's a Badger.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=290223017

Wow, their ability to scan/freeze the frame like they did on that replay is really great for showing that the shot was off on time.  I wonder if the refs actually can do that, or if they have to just start/stop without the scan.  The ability to freeze the frame right when the ball leaves his hand, and then scan to look and see if the light is on (or I guess the reverse if the shot had been late) is really cool.
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2009, 08:47:22 AM »
I still think he traveled... just my opinion.
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2009, 09:12:50 AM »
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on February 25, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
I still think he traveled... just my opinion.

I definitely don't think it was a travel.  He catches and takes one step.  Then loses the ball and takes another step without posession.  Finally, he gathers the ball/regains posession, takes one more step, and then shoots. 

After he regains posession he is allowed to take one and a half steps to either shoot, pass, or dribble as another person touched the ball/caused him to lose it.

At least that's how I am interpreting the rules.  I think III.c.(2) and XIV.g (second sentence) relate to this situation.

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.html?nav=ArticleList
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2009, 01:02:14 PM »
Well if that is the rule... then a player can bobble the ball down the whole length of the court without a dribble???

Gosh I hate NBA rules
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 01:23:11 PM »
I don't think it's just an NBA rule. I think that would apply to pretty much all levels of basketball. If a player doesn't have control of the ball, he really can't be called for travelling. in Devin's case, he definitely lost control of the ball so no travel.
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 01:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Mike McCarter on February 25, 2009, 01:23:11 PM
I don't think it's just an NBA rule. I think that would apply to pretty much all levels of basketball. If a player doesn't have control of the ball, he really can't be called for travelling. in Devin's case, he definitely lost control of the ball so no travel.

No no... but he had control... lost control, however was juggling the ball... in high school thats a travel.  In college thats a travel, it should be in the NBA

You can't just juggle the ball down the court and claim you didn't have control, if he lost control of the ball it would have hit the ground, it never did, he just bobbled it, which would be a travel
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Re: Devin Harris Game Winner- Amazing
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2009, 02:25:47 PM »
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on February 25, 2009, 01:35:17 PM
No no... but he had control... lost control, however was juggling the ball... in high school thats a travel.  In college thats a travel, it should be in the NBA

You can't just juggle the ball down the court and claim you didn't have control, if he lost control of the ball it would have hit the ground, it never did, he just bobbled it, which would be a travel

Read the second sentence of Section XIV.g more carefully- "If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball."  Thus you can't bobble it all the way down the court.  I think the reason they didn't call Harris for a travel is because they thought the other guy hit the ball (very tough to tell but it does look like he did hit it with his left hand).  This is the same rule at every level.  If another guy causes you to drop the ball you regain your ability to dribble.

Looks like it also could have very well been called a foul.

It's definitely a unique play, one that's really hard to call; especially in real-time.
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