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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: muwarrior87 on June 26, 2008, 03:39:31 PM
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Chris is moving in now as is Liam McMorrow. Anyone know any info about this? Did he sign for next year? i'm guessing he did since he wouldn't move in if he isn't and he's listed as men's bball on the Humphrey roster. Oh the joys of knowing what the players are up to off the court.
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1. So is the apostrophe in his name or not? O'tule, O'Tule, Otule?
2. If the reports on McMorrow are accurate Buzz may be just as loose with his open scholarships as Crean.
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first or last option. he doesn't put it in with his signature so i'd say Otule. As for the loose scholarships, we'll see how that turns out. He looks pretty athletic and is taller than Otule standing side by side so we'll have to see what he can do.
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1. So is the apostrophe in his name or not? O'tule, O'Tule, Otule?
2. If the reports on McMorrow are accurate Buzz may be just as loose with his open scholarships as Crean.
So you won't get excited about a highly ranked player that Buzz gets since he has to prove it on the court...then turn around and say this is a bad pickup without knowing much about him? Seems contradictory.
Granted, this seems a little bizarre, simply based on little being said about him. I didn't even know this guys name until yesterday. I'll trust the coaches...hopefully he can help immediately this year. What if Otule isn't ready to contribute much as a freshman? If so, this team will be awfully shorthanded for bigs this season (more than usual anyway).
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from Cubi, Liam just signed today. So scollie table needs updating. I think he's coming in as a soph if I'm correct. not completely sure though.
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So you won't get excited about a highly ranked player that Buzz gets since he has to prove it on the court...then turn around and say this is a bad pickup without knowing much about him? Seems contradictory.
Granted, this seems a little bizarre, simply based on little being said about him. I didn't even know this guys name until yesterday. I'll trust the coaches...hopefully he can help immediately this year. What if Otule isn't ready to contribute much as a freshman? If so, this team will be awfully shorthanded for bigs this season (more than usual anyway).
1. You must still have brisket stuck in some places. Nowhere did I write McMorrow was a bad pickup. Nowhere.
2. Remind me again how many scholarships they have to offer in 2009? By my count with the Irish Canadian in the fold that leaves one spot open.
If that's the case, we've gone from having three scholarships available and in on numerous highly thought of prospects (thanks to Buzz' superior recruiting skills) three weeks ago to now having only one scholarship available after picking up a local kid who didn't have a scholarship offer from anyone two weeks before his commitment and a player whose name was unrecognizable to even the most ardent Buzz supporters just two days ago.
I think there's an element of looseness in those developments. jmo.
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from Cubi, Liam just signed today. So scollie table needs updating. I think he's coming in as a soph if I'm correct. not completely sure though.
Great info, thanks!
This pickup definitely comes out of left field. I have to agree with Nola here, seems to me that Buzz is taking a flier on this guy. Hopefully, Buzz has more success during the spring signing period than Crean had.
However, McMorrow does fit a need. This squad could definitely use another big.
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OK, this guy Liam takes up a scholarship slot and does fit a bigman need. Hopefully someone has some background info on him because I am sure the majority of us have no clue. So that leaves one scholarship left for 2009? With a point guard the mandatory position, that means bye-bye Jamil? Hopefully Buzz knows something we don't.
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We need post players with size to fill in and give us minutes due to our lack of depth. Who knows their skill sets now, additionally who knows the coaching ability to develop bigs. Saying this who would you rather to a shot at smaller post play or one that has size. It is beneficial for our players to practice against players with size and our bigs will develop faster practicing against bigs. Dont know if this is a risk or not as have not seen any of them play but I will trust the coaches on this. Buzz knows he has a good team returning and is putting himself in a position for success after we lose 4 guys after this season.
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So what does this all mean? Who is Liam?
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A few tidbits I found...
Liam McMorrow, a six-foot-eleven newcomer, will help that defensive goal.
Displaying good hands for the basketball and a soft shooting touch around the basket, he shouldn’t be limited to just a defensive role either.
http://dca.durhamc.on.ca/chronicle/sports.html?id=36
while 7’0 freshmen forward, Liam McMorrow, hauled in 18 rebounds.
http://www.ocaa.com/sports/mbasketball/news/?id=6084
George Brown came up the court and missed an opportunity to level the score while freshman Liam McMorrow (Toronto, ON) scooped up one of his twelve rebounds, causing the Huskies to foul the big man and send him to the line with only 3.9 seconds remaining. McMorrow, who has struggled from the line this season shooting only 55%, came up big for Durham as he calmly drained both free throws to give the team a 64-60. George Brown made a hail-mary three-point at the buzzer, but it was too little, too late as the Lords celebrated their big win.
http://sirc.ca/news_view.cfm?id=19880&search=&show=&month=2&year=2008&search_where=
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So that leaves one scholarship left for 2009? With a point guard the mandatory position, that means bye-bye Jamil? Hopefully Buzz knows something we don't.
When Crean left, I believe our chances with Wilson also sailed away. That's why Buzz went so hard after Maymon ... He knew that Wilson wasn't going to come to MU and he needed to recruit another forward.
It would make sense that the last scholarship would go to a guard ... Cadougan looks like a top priority.
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Very brief McMorrow video which doesn't tell us much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_r4wLf0XI&feature=related
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Nola: Who said Buycks didn't have scholarship offers from other schools? He did and from several high-major schools. Many were indeed showing just interest, but many others had offered.
Buycks is a very good pickup ... a guy who plays with an edge and competes as hard as James/McNeal/Matthews.
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Nola: Who said Buycks didn't have scholarship offers from other schools? He did and from several high-major schools. Many were indeed showing just interest, but many others had offered.
Buycks is a very good pickup ... a guy who plays with an edge and competes as hard as James/McNeal/Matthews.
You'll have to excuse him...since April 1st he's been pissed at the world.
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I get the feeling that Buzz could take MU to the final 4 next year and sign a top 10 recruiting class and the people who did not like the hire would still find a way to complain.
I just don't get the whining.
The decision has been made. Buzz is the coach.
I have no idea how good LM is or will be but maybe just maybe the coaches feel this kid can be a player. He sure has the size that we have lacked the last few seasons.
Doesn't he at least deserve the benefit of the doubt?
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You have to trust the coaching staff and perhaps Buzz feels that Dale Layer will really help develop O'tule and McMorrow. I confess that I am a bit disappointed in the McMorrow commit since it looked like Dan Jennings and Ray Turner (two studs) were considering us. However, if Junior Cadougan commits that still gives us an awesome 09 class.
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I get the feeling that Buzz could take MU to the final 4 next year and sign a top 10 recruiting class and the people who did not like the hire would still find a way to complain.
I just don't get the whining.
The decision has been made. Buzz is the coach.
I have no idea how good LM is or will be but maybe just maybe the coaches feel this kid can be a player. He sure has the size that we have lacked the last few seasons.
Doesn't he at least deserve the benefit of the doubt?
+1
Well said.
I don't know if this kid will be good... but I'm not paid to be the head coach... buzz is.
Hopefully it works.
"You can't teach height"
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We're in the Big East people. You need to bang. I think you need to bring in 1.5 big men EVERY year and keep them here. By their JR & SR seasons some will be quality players (Faisal) others will be decent role players and foul eaters (Abel) but you need to (A) consistently bring them in and (B) be patient with them
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While we had some very good players considering us, I am sure Buzz had much better insight on his chances of getting certain players. I feel good about Cadougan as he seems truly interested in us. Likes our style and is interested in the schools graduation rate. But I am also aware that the article said that after his strong showing he is expecting to receive offers from other major schools, so there is no guarantee. I certainly think we can now expect the last scholarship to go to a point guard. I wonder if Liam is a freshmen or a sophomore? He was considered a freshman in at the school in Toronoto last year, but I wonder if this would count against his eligibilty in the United States.
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You'll have to excuse him...since April 1st he's been pissed at the world.
Buzz' Bulldog --
It should be known I haven't been pissed since April 1. In fact, I handled TC's departure much more maturely then you and many, many others showed on these boards. TC leaving is fine with me. Buzz being our coach is fine with me (he's winning on most fronts so far). I would have preferred things done a little differently but there's no need for that discussion anymore, jmo. BTW, personally and professionally the last two months have been outstanding. Thanks for the concern.
Mark --
I do not have a subscription for Insider articles in the Scout network anymore, however, if you search the Iowa State Cyclones webforum and look under Buycks' profile there is a story from May 31 in which the writer states something to the effect that Buycks "does not currently hold any scholarship offers". Considering Iowa
State was one of his hottest pursuers I assume the person writing the story had solid information.
Now, I'm sure there's more to the story and the way you cover Wisconsin basketball I'd take your word over anyone else but I remember reading that article that day and reading it again after he committed. Please check though because I may be wrong.
Just to clarify before this spirals out of control with people not reading properly: I have not passed judgment on McMorrow as a player; I simply pointed out that this seems to be in the mold of playing loose with open scholarships (a Canadian player no one has heard of?). It's been written that Buzz' recruiting style is much different then Crean but we killed the last guy for this type of behavior (deservedly so) so it only seems natural to ask questions.
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Buzz' Bulldog --
It should be known I haven't been pissed since April 1. In fact, I handled TC's departure much more maturely then you and many, many others showed on these boards. TC leaving is fine with me. Buzz being our coach is fine with me (he's winning on most fronts so far). I would have preferred things done a little differently but there's no need for that discussion anymore, jmo. BTW, personally and professionally the last two months have been outstanding. Thanks for the concern.
Haha, Buzz' Bulldog...I'll take that as a compliment, although I bet it wasn't!
I didn't handle it maturely? Wow, check the archives. I was shocked and disappointed...but as I always do, looked at the bright side and immediately started pushing for Buzz to get promoted. Did I piss and moan about it? No. Did I wish him death? No. I wish Crean luck, he did a hell of a lot for this program. But the more I think about it, the more I see, the more I read...I've thought for a while that this will be a blessing in disguise.
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Yes, I heard that by next week they'll all be moved in, physicals are next week. Too bad we couldn't meet them at the BBQ. It sure was fun! Also, I heard from a VERY RELIABLE SOURCE that 2 Canadians (Liam and Cadougan) are coming to MU. Both will be officially announced in July. Something about NCAA rules with the timing of that announcement, don't know myself. Liam will sit out this year because he is a transfer, play next year after a year of practice with the team - sounds good to me... :)
Also, just a silly tidbit - TC sold his house to Scott Skiles.
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Well here is a question, if Liam was a freshman out of a USA HS and not a transfer from a Canadian college/university, would the bias be gone? Probably less bias. I say give him a fair chance. I think this was a good get for Buzz. He is loaded with talent and experience at 1-4. He need to shore up the 5. Watch out NCAA tourney! Oh the previous post has Liam sitting out this year. So guess I am wrong.
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We're in the Big East people. You need to bang. I think you need to bring in 1.5 big men EVERY year and keep them here. By their JR & SR seasons some will be quality players (Faisal) others will be decent role players and foul eaters (Abel) but you need to (A) consistently bring them in and (B) be patient with them
That's a good point. Sans McMorrow, MU would be heading into the 2009-10 season with one player over 6'7" (Otule, who's just as much a project as McMorrow appears to be). Mighty hard to compete in any major conference, much less the Big East, with that small of a lineup.
Whether McMorrow was MU's best option for a big remains to be seen (although the list of who MU is involved with right now hardly is overwhelming), but I think it's very reasonable to snatch up a big man rather than hold out hope for another highly ranked 6'6" - 6'7" forward like Jamil Wilson or Roger Franklin.
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Yeah, what do we want with a couple big men, that would only get scholly offers from a school like Rider? It's not like a big only recruited like a school as small and insignificant as Rider is going to grab a big man that is going to be drafted 12th in the NBA....... Oh wait, never mind.
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1. So is the apostrophe in his name or not? O'tule, O'Tule, Otule?
2. If the reports on McMorrow are accurate Buzz may be just as loose with his open scholarships as Crean.
Buzz pronounced it O-too-lay
spelled Otule no apostrophe
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Buzz pronounced it O-too-lay
spelled Otule no apostrophe
I heard him say that too. He also said all three signe's up until this point will be on campus Thursday. Sounds almost like a reference to another 08 recruit. Liam possibly?
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I can back the person on the scout board that said McMorrow is listed in the student directory, so he's enrolled.
Really little info on him, and strange that there's no news release or anything from Rosiak.
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I heard him say that too. He also said all three signe's up until this point will be on campus Thursday. Sounds almost like a reference to another 08 recruit. Liam possibly?
Wouldn't that be referring to Otule, Fulce, and Butler?
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Wouldn't that be referring to Otule, Fulce, and Butler?
Yes but he made it sound like there could be more than three. The interview is on espn 540.
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We're not going to find many guys 6'11 or 7'0 easily that want to come here. So I think the pickup is fine. We need some height for this season while the big three are still here.
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so let me get this straight. Is he going to be eligible to play this year? or does he have to sit out a year after transferring?
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so let me get this straight. Is he going to be eligible to play this year? or does he have to sit out a year after transferring?
Yeah. Do NCAA rules apply to transfers from non-NCAA schools? If not, and he is academically eligible, he should be able to play next year. It would be nice to get some clarity on that.
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Otule should STRONGLY consider changing his name legally to O'Tule...then opening up a bar on Wells across the street from the Al after he graduates.
The man will be a millionaire! ;)
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I think it helps a 6"10" player to practice against a 6'11" player every day vs practicing against a 6'7" player.
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I think you are right. Just look how good we turned out to be!
Sincerely,
Chris Grimm and Mike Kinsella
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Yeah. Do NCAA rules apply to transfers from non-NCAA schools? If not, and he is academically eligible, he should be able to play next year. It would be nice to get some clarity on that.
As best as I can tell from reading these rules, kids transferring from foreign schools are, for the NCAA's purposes, the same as kids transferring from American four-year schools, and thereby required to sit out a year.
"Note: If you are a foreign student and attend a school outside of the
United States, go to the rules for athletes who are now in a four-year school on Page 19, even if you are in a two-year school."
On Page 19:
"If you transfer from a four-year school to another four-year school, generally you are
not eligible to play at another four-year school until you sit out a year."
http://www.ncaa.org/library/general/transfer_guide/2007-08/2007-08_transfer_guide.pdf
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We're not going to find many guys 6'11 or 7'0 easily that want to come here. So I think the pickup is fine. We need some height for this season while the big three are still here.
If that was the case, I think the guarded optimism would be unshackled a bit. However, it seems like he has to sit out a year and will miss playing with DJ, JM, and WM where it counts.
Does MU still have a club hockey team?
EDIT: btw, have one of the Scout people confirmed that 31 May article from the Iowa State site on Buycks?
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OK, this guy Liam takes up a scholarship slot and does fit a bigman need. Hopefully someone has some background info on him because I am sure the majority of us have no clue. So that leaves one scholarship left for 2009? With a point guard the mandatory position, that means bye-bye Jamil? Hopefully Buzz knows something we don't.
I don't think that is necessarily the case. You have Buycks who can fill in at the point meaning that we can wait until 2010. I
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If that was the case, I think the guarded optimism would be unshackled a bit. However, it seems like he has to sit out a year and will miss playing with DJ, JM, and WM where it counts.
Does MU still have a club hockey team?
Yes they still do. They play at the ice arena right off 94 and I think you can buy beer there too. Haven't heard off any opposing teams getting in fights with students in the stands since I left though. ;D
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I think you are right. Just look how good we turned out to be!
Sincerely,
Chris Grimm and Mike Kinsella
Hey. Don't forget that one Pittsnoggle game Kinsella had! :D
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from Liam himself, he will sit out next year and then be eligible to play after that. At least we have another big athletic body for practice. It pays to work at Humphrey sometimes.
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If that was the case, I think the guarded optimism would be unshackled a bit. However, it seems like he has to sit out a year and will miss playing with DJ, JM, and WM where it counts.
So seasons after the one upcoming don't count? Hmmmm.
The need for a big this upcoming season isn't as great as it will be in 2009-10 because of the presence of Dwight Burke. The real issue, and the gap McMorrow presumably will fill, is in the following season when Mbakwe and Otule will be the only "bigs" on the roster.
With Hayward presumably coming back with Mbakwe, and the addition of Williams and Maymon, MU should have enough frontcourt scoring in 2009-10. The bigger issue will be rebounding and defense. Hopefully Otule and McMorrow can form a two-headed monster to fill that role.
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Wow, thanks for the scoop on McMorrow guys. Scholarship table updated.
Looking forward to another update with Cadougan :)
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
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Can someone remind me if transfers loose a year of eligibility.
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Can someone remind me if transfers loose a year of eligibility.
They have to sit out a year, but it doesn't count against their eligibility. Think Mo Acker - played as a frosh @ ball state in 05-06, sat out 06-07, was a "sophomore" eligibility wise this past season.
http://www.muscoop.com/wiki/doku.php/men_s_basketball/maurice_acker
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EDIT: btw, have one of the Scout people confirmed that 31 May article from the Iowa State site on Buycks?
That is what the article says, but it is directly in conflict with an article from the Iowa State Rivals site on 6/11/08 which said: "Ottumwa (Iowa) guard Dwight Buycks has numerous scholarship offers on his plate from high majors all over the country. The problem is he's not exactly sure who those schools are. But he does know that Iowa State is one."
You can choose to believe whichever one fits your agenda.
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Who cares who offered the kid. The point is that he is considered one of the best guards if not the best in juco and that schools like Memphis were at least interested in the kid. I will take Memphis scraps and leftovers any day of the week. The kid has always had Big East talent, he just didn't have the grades for some schools to look at him seriously.
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Wow, thanks for the scoop on McMorrow guys. Scholarship table updated.
So even if he cannot play, he still takes up a scholarship?
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if he didn't you'd have to find someone with one year of eligibility otherwise then you'd have an excess the following year. it doesn't make much sense for him to not take the scholarship since he'll still be practicing with the team, learning the offense and how each of his teammates play so when he is eligible to play next year, he already has a year of understanding with the majority of the team.
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So even if he cannot play, he still takes up a scholarship?
Yes. Any transfer or red-shirt is still on scholarship - and thus it counts against the bball teams allocation (13 scholarships).
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That is what the article says, but it is directly in conflict with an article from the Iowa State Rivals site on 6/11/08 which said: "Ottumwa (Iowa) guard Dwight Buycks has numerous scholarship offers on his plate from high majors all over the country. The problem is he's not exactly sure who those schools are. But he does know that Iowa State is one."
You can choose to believe whichever one fits your agenda.
Thanks for confirming. Didn't know if I remembered correctly. Actually, I don't think there is a conflict: the ISU Scout article is 31 May whereas the ISU Rivals article is 11 June. I'm guessing he picked up his numerous offers during those 12 days.
I also like how you threw the word agenda in there. Scaremongering at its funniest. I mean, aren't you choosing to believe whichever one fits your agenda as well? Really is silly stuff :D
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Thanks for confirming. Didn't know if I remembered correctly. Actually, I don't think there is a conflict: the ISU Scout article is 31 May whereas the ISU Rivals article is 11 June. I'm guessing he picked up his numerous offers during those 12 days.
I also like how you threw the word agenda in there. Scaremongering at its funniest. I mean, aren't you choosing to believe whichever one fits your agenda as well? Really is silly stuff :D
Two different sources confirmed he had plenty of offers, namely Kentucky.
Keep hating though, it's cool.
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Thanks for confirming. Didn't know if I remembered correctly. Actually, I don't think there is a conflict: the ISU Scout article is 31 May whereas the ISU Rivals article is 11 June. I'm guessing he picked up his numerous offers during those 12 days.
I also like how you threw the word agenda in there. Scaremongering at its funniest. I mean, aren't you choosing to believe whichever one fits your agenda as well? Really is silly stuff :D
Who says I believe either one of them, I was just reporting what they said. And I've got no agenda, I've not been a Buzz basher or a Buzz fanboy, while you clearly have changed your attitude towards the program, the coaches and the recruits since April 1st both here and on Scout.
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BMA,
Forget the rest of that trash...What have you heard about Liam McMorrow? This guy seems to come out of nowhere and I haven't heard a whole lot about him.
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BMA,
Forget the rest of that trash...What have you heard about Liam McMorrow? This guy seems to come out of nowhere and I haven't heard a whole lot about him.
Not much. He's a virtual unknown at this point as really nobody covers Canadian college basketball. He hasn't been playing the game that long, so the only stuff out there is what you can find on Google. But he's going redshirt and have until the 2009-10 season to get better, and Layer is supposedly a good big man coach(see Jason Smith), so who knows. If anything, he is a legit 7'0 and appears to be well built so he should help at least defensively, but it's always tough for those late starters to get up to speed offensively.
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I suggest everyone ignore any posts by Nola 03, he can come on and post how he does not have a bone to pick but his posts are clear enough. His Murph like inssitance of Buycks having no scholarhip offers is pathetic. Hold on to that article with everything you got beacuse obviously it means more than anything Mark miller might have to add, what would a guy who makes his living covering Wisocnsin basketball know. When he says he is beter than lacy it is good enough for me. Also, to see an article that states a guy does not have any offers before the recruiting period really gets underway is not a big deal at all, in fact it is a red herring. maymon had offers from baylor and UWGB before he blew up over the last 6 weeks and then all the big boys were on him. Maybe Nola's next rant should be that as of May maymon only had offers fromm baylor and UWgb and insist that the Newspapers and coaches of wisconsin that voted him player of the year and the recruitng services are fools too. the guy is abitter fool...life is too short to even read his posts.
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It takes coordination to ice skate in a hockey game. People this size are rare. Most of them have no athletic ability. I like the signing. I think having two bigmen projects to push each other will make them both better. Plus I believe Cadougan will also come. Assuming that happens in July, the only downside I see is what are we going to do until November with no potential recruits to speculate over.
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what are we going to do until November with no potential recruits to speculate over.
check out the hs juniors that are potential MU recruits ;)
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Doesn't seem like the best get now that he has to sit out a season.
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Doesn't seem like the best get now that he has to sit out a season.
I know what you mean, but think about it this way:
Will he be better than any of the potential frosh. bigs we could bring in next year?
In 2009:
He's 7 ft
He's 20 years old
He's had a year to learn MU's system for bigs
He has 3 years of eligibility
A 2009 frosh:
He's x ft (probably not 7ft)
He's 18 years old
He hasn't even practiced with MU
He has 4 years of eligibility
I'm not saying the kid is the next Patrick Ewing... but it the goal is to start finding some serviceable/solid big men... adding a transfer/redshirt can be a good idea considering bigs usually hit their stride as upper classmen.
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Doesn't seem like the best get now that he has to sit out a season.
Disagree 100%. I like the signing more now that he has to sit out a season.
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In 2009:
He's 7 ft
He's 20 years old
He's had a year to learn MU's system for bigs
He has 3 years of eligibility
McMorrow is already 20, maybe even 21, he graduated high school in 2005.
Not sure what he was doing between then and his first year of college.
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McMorrow is already 20, maybe even 21, he graduated high school in 2005.
Not sure what he was doing between then and his first year of college.
Even better.
Thanks for clarifying.
Not sure he will ever be all conference... but like I said, he could be solid.
I think if you could get at least Marcus Jackson level talent at center most years... that would be pretty solid. Not too many dominating big men out there... so a solid player will be fine.
Between this kid and Otule... you gotta figure they will be at least serviceable.
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He is 20. And having a year to learn the system and work with the team in practice will be huge. He may not be the next Patrick Ewing but who knows, we may have the next Roy Hibbert on our hands. Only difference is that McMorrow is probably stronger than Hibbert was coming in but then again, as long as he's serviceable with Otule I'll be happy.
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UW signed two bigmen this year. Bergeman(sp) and the guy from Texas. Their is some questions regarding their athleticness. It will be interesting to see how Otule's and McMorrows size and athleticism actually compares to UW's two recruits. I think Bo is very good at making bigmen play strong fundamental basketball. So this will be a good Buzz vs Bo competition to see who develops their centers better.
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Who says I believe either one of them, I was just reporting what they said. And I've got no agenda, I've not been a Buzz basher or a Buzz fanboy, while you clearly have changed your attitude towards the program, the coaches and the recruits since April 1st both here and on Scout.
I agree with you that my attitude has changed. I'm no longer a blind apologist who covers everything in sprinkles. A lot of people stood back for a couple weeks and took the cautious road after the dust settled only to return to being MU apologists that only see the positive. Forgive me for not being at that point yet.
Having questions about picking up a commit from a 7-foot hockey player who's only played 20 games of basketball in his life doesn't strike me as anything out of the norm for a message board. In fact, some pretty heavy hitters in the Scout forum have expressed their doubts about the news yet I don't see quite the indictment of their fanhood. Perhaps different standards.
And, Bulldog, re-read my last post on Buycks. I mentioned the plethora of offers he received. Or, you could just keep posting those bi-weekly updates on Tom Crean and the Indiana program
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7-foot hockey player who's only played 20 games of basketball in his life
Seriously?
Woah.
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UW signed two bigmen this year. Bergeman(sp) and the guy from Texas. Their is some questions regarding their athleticness. It will be interesting to see how Otule's and McMorrows size and athleticism actually compares to UW's two recruits. I think Bo is very good at making bigmen play strong fundamental basketball. So this will be a good Buzz vs Bo competition to see who develops their centers better.
Well, if Bo develops them as well as he developed Stiemsma, Chappell and Mader, Marquette could be in for some big trouble. ;)
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UW signed two bigmen this year. Bergeman(sp) and the guy from Texas. Their is some questions regarding their athleticness.
UW big men lacking athleticism? Really?
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I agree with you that my attitude has changed. I'm no longer a blind apologist who covers everything in sprinkles. A lot of people stood back for a couple weeks and took the cautious road after the dust settled only to return to being MU apologists that only see the positive. Forgive me for not being at that point yet.
Having questions about picking up a commit from a 7-foot hockey player who's only played 20 games of basketball in his life doesn't strike me as anything out of the norm for a message board. In fact, some pretty heavy hitters in the Scout forum have expressed their doubts about the news yet I don't see quite the indictment of their fanhood. Perhaps different standards.
I prefer the world of realism myself.
And, Bulldog, re-read my last post on Buycks. I mentioned the plethora of offers he received. Or, you could just keep posting those bi-weekly updates on Tom Crean and the Indiana program
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Naturally he is going to become better after learning the system, but I was just thinking Buzz could have gotten a higher ranked or known big man for the 09 season. I'll eat my words if this Liam McMorrow actually does something, but I just have a bad feeling about it. I wish Buzz would have spent more time looking for other big men.
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I try to look for positives in life. I realize everything in my life will not go the way I want it to, but I rather look at everything in a positive light. McMorrow may turn out to be a bust, but right now I see his tremendous size as giving us a chance to be a final four team in the future. Without a servicable bigman we have no chance at a final four. Now we have two big centers. Hopefully one will develop enough so he can at least be a defensive obstacle to the other teams big center. It always amazed me how in Crean's tenure the opposing team's center was usually better than ours and I am not just talking conference games. Teams like North Dakota St would come in and totally out play us on the front line.
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Definitely... if one develops that would be fantastic.
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If Liam is anything like his brother, Sean, he'll at least bring some toughness to Marquette's frontcourt.
Sean is #23. 1,020 penalty minutes in 220 AHL games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyPsR_qsUhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3rl9L0XItQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F232gUweZWQ&feature=related
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I being a positive thinker see that as a plus. We need a strong physical presence. However, I think you will now be attacked by other posters saying that all this indicates is a player who will not stay out of foul trouble (Greg Stiesma comes to mind).
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Joe Nethen would have been great on skates