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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TallTitan34 on March 14, 2008, 11:19:52 PM

Title: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 14, 2008, 11:19:52 PM
About half way through the second half Higgins ejected Jerel as he was on the bench.  Coaches and fans pleaded for him to stay and he let him return.

Was this on TV?
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: drewm88 on March 14, 2008, 11:21:35 PM
It looked like he was gesturing for somebody getting sent off, at which point Jerel and Crean (already having a T) were the only viable options. Shulman and Elmore made no comment about the gesture and obviously nothing came out of it.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 14, 2008, 11:23:01 PM
About half way through the second half Higgins ejected Jerel as he was on the bench.  Coaches and fans pleaded for him to stay and he let him return.

Was this on TV?

WTF are you talking about? I find that extremely hard to believe. I am guessing he may have threatened, but cooler heads prevailed. I don't see any way he revereses himself, once he makes a call like that.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 14, 2008, 11:24:12 PM
Wait, what happened? Higgins ejected him and then changed his mind?

Jerel obviously never got tossed as he came back into the game. Box score only has the one team technical foul listed (for not leaving the bench after the second horn).
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: drewm88 on March 14, 2008, 11:26:13 PM
Wait, what happened? Higgins ejected him and then changed his mind?

Jerel obviously never got tossed as he came back into the game. Box score only has the one team technical foul listed (for not leaving the bench after the second horn).

That's what the T was for??? In that case, either I missed something or Shulman did an awful job by not explaining that.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: dw3dw3dw3 on March 14, 2008, 11:51:21 PM
Jerel got upset by one of the thousand missed over the back calls, jumped about 3 feet in the air and landed on the court. The ball went out of bounds and a TV timeout occurred. Higgins saw Mcneal land in the court came running down to the opposite end where the MU bench was blew his whistle and gave the Mcneal the "your outta here" sign.  There was no "T" and when play resumed it seemed like nothing happened.  I think he did throw him out and then second guessed himself and turned it into the warning. I think all of this was happening while the game went to commercial.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: bma725 on March 15, 2008, 12:05:59 AM
Jerel got upset by one of the thousand missed over the back calls, jumped about 3 feet in the air and landed on the court. The ball went out of bounds and a TV timeout occurred.

I don't think it was the over the back, it was the calling it Pitt ball when James was nowhere near it as it went out of bounds.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: NYWarrior on March 15, 2008, 12:29:01 AM
Everone in our section thought Jerel was ejected.  F***k Higgins.  Grewwnwood too for that matter
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 15, 2008, 12:36:26 AM
Trust me I was about 10 feet away.  He made the your outta here call.  Cooler heads did prevail though.

This was well after the Crean T.
Title: You could read Crean's lips...
Post by: mugrad99 on March 15, 2008, 07:52:54 AM
and he was saying "let him stay Timmy"

that was a very odd sequence.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: MUDPT on March 15, 2008, 08:56:06 AM
That is the most typical thing with Higgins.  He was on the opposite end of the court and made a call and then turned and ran 80 feet to the other end of the court to yell at the Marquette bench.  He should have never acknowledged the MU bench from the OTHER END OF THE COURT.  It is typical of old age to get thinner skin. 
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: MUEng92 on March 15, 2008, 09:22:34 AM
This is in absolutely no way defending Higgins (that is the last thing I want to be accused of), but you didn't exactly need to hear or read McNeal's lips on that play.  He jumped higher (in disgust) on the bench than he has on some of his jump shots.     That is about the only call he could honestly make from 80 feet away.  Barone looked like he saw a ghost.  It took him a few seconds to realize he needed to get McNeal back to the bench.  Who knows, maybe in the time it took him to run over to MU's bench, he realized just how bad the original call was and that is why he didn't throw out McNeal.

That being said, if he can notice that from 80 feet away, I can only still wonder this morning, how he couldn't see so many plays that were right in front of him as well as how he apparently saw some plays that simply didn't happen.

A part of me wishes MU was blown out last night.  It is easier for me to deal with the horrible shooting in the 1st half than it is to deal with terrible officiating.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 15, 2008, 03:16:18 PM
The fact that Higgins apparently reversed himself .. lends me to think even Higgins knew what a crap job he was doing.  He probably had his own little warning light in his head going off, thinking, man, if I do this giant, BS call, that has such huge ramifications (removing a team's best player) .. that it'd better be a slam dunk call, or I'm gonna have all my calls scrutinized for the entire game.

When was the last time a ref said "wait, never mind."????????
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: Gwaki on March 15, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
from what I heard today was that he ejected jerel but the other refs also intervened and let him stay.
Title: Re: Did They Show Jerel Getting Kicked Out?
Post by: romey on March 16, 2008, 10:10:50 AM
I clearly saw him signal "you're out" and thought it was funny that the announcers never mentioned that.  They did however talk about how Jerel needs to be careful, etc, etc.  That was a BS call though - one of many.