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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2023, 11:19:45 AM
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https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1640749564582940674?t=nJvX1NfmoXV326ft2gU5Yw&s=19
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Opens up a spot for a transfer in.
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Great athlete. Good luck to him.
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Thats good news for me, now they can bring in another forward or even a backup center with muscle!
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Similar to Ellis, probably best for both parties. Lets bring in an impact guy and run it back with the rest of the squad..
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Good luck Keeyan!
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thats a shame, i thought with some more control he could be something special. hope it happens for him even if elsewhere.
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I am disappointed his time here didn't work out, I wish him the best wherever he lands.
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It’s not a shame. I’m sure he’s a great kid … but was not going to play at MU.
He needs to move down a step or two …
Hope it works out.
Now Shaka can bring in the One Guy …
That fits in, helps w / Chemistry and can help out right away
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It’s not a shame. I’m sure he’s a great kid … but was not going to play at MU.
He needs to move down a step or two …
Hope it works out.
Now Shaka can bring in the One Guy …
That fits in, helps w / Chemistry and can help out right away
Regardless of what happens, we are officially a team that is an IDEAL location for an impact Senior/Grad Transfer to come chase a title. How cool is that?!?! I mean seriously...
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Not a shocker, and wish him well. Have a funny feeling we will see some highlights down the road of him at the mid-major level. I hope he does have the opportunity to use the lessons of the past couple years and really come into his own. His athleticism was tantalizing, but probably too far to go with the skills to contribute significantly at MU. He was certainly worth taking a flyer on and seemed like a very likable guy who was very much part of the mix on the team.
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Best of luck at his next stop. He could be a force if he finds a rim running type mid-major.
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Good luck Keeyan on the next step in your journey .
You were a member of Big East Champion team and that is an achievement to be proud of.
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Wish you well, Keeyan! His athleticism was something to behold. He could be a really nice player as an upperclassman.
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Good luck, Keeyan! I hope he finds a great situation where he will be a key contributor.
Not that anyone is overly surprised by this transfer, but I thought it was interesting in the Xavier game when Shaka subbed Keeyan in alone and then after he walked onto the court, they called the rest of the subs up from the bench. They all went in during the same stoppage, but it was definitly Keeyan alone at the scorer's table checking in and walking on to the floor. The rest of the guys all subbed in together. They gave Keeyan a little bit of a "moment". I thought at the time it was some small recognition for him and an indication that he would not be back.
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You were a member of Big East Champion team and that is an achievement to be proud of.
Karon Bradley will be your official MU alum concierge on all fture #mubb event planning questions.
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Good luck, Keeyan! I hope he finds a great situation where he will be a key contributor.
Not that anyone is overly surprised by this transfer, but I thought it was interesting in the Xavier game when Shaka subbed Keeyan in alone and then after he walked onto the court, they called the rest of the subs up from the bench. They all went in during the same stoppage, but it was definitly Keeyan alone at the scorer's table checking in and walking on to the floor. The rest of the guys all subbed in together. They gave Keeyan a little bit of a "moment". I thought at the time it was some small recognition for him and an indication that he would not be back.
Shaka did this a few times with Keeyan. Subbing him in before the others….even if it was only 20-30 seconds.
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Good luck, Keeyan! I hope he finds a great situation where he will be a key contributor.
Not that anyone is overly surprised by this transfer, but I thought it was interesting in the Xavier game when Shaka subbed Keeyan in alone and then after he walked onto the court, they called the rest of the subs up from the bench. They all went in during the same stoppage, but it was definitly Keeyan alone at the scorer's table checking in and walking on to the floor. The rest of the guys all subbed in together. They gave Keeyan a little bit of a "moment". I thought at the time it was some small recognition for him and an indication that he would not be back.
I think it was more of a piece of respect -- subbing him in before the walk ons.
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I think it was more of a piece of respect -- subbing him in before the walk ons.
Yeah, definitely a token of respect which he earned and deserved. Though, Keeyan’s time here was a big disappointment. By the end of year 2, it seemed that Michael Kennedy was closer to passing Keeyan on the depth chart than Keeyan was to passing Gold. Hope he finds more success at his next stop.
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I will always remember him fondly for almost murdering a DePaul player on a fast break dunk attempt.
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I will always remember him fondly for almost murdering a DePaul player on a fast break dunk attempt.
Attempt being the operative word
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Sandy Cohen 2.0 (sorry if this has been said already on Scoop, I’m not here much anymore)
Crazy athleticism that just is difficult to harness. Keeyan will have a solid career.
Sandy had a monster Redshirt SR year at UWGB, setting a seasonal scoring record. Played pro ball in Israel.
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Sandy Cohen 2.0 (sorry if this has been said already on Scoop, I’m not here much anymore)
Crazy athleticism that just is difficult to harness. Keeyan will have a solid career.
Sandy had a monster Redshirt SR year at UWGB, setting a seasonal scoring record. Played pro ball in Israel.
I always thought of him more as project big like Hazel, trend Blackledge, Mbao to an extent. Except I suppose I held out more hope for him. Cohen seems more similar to Jamal Cain or Bailey.
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Attempt being the operative word
It wasn't an attempt, as at least per ESPN, he turned it over before the shot. He is a perfect 100% from the floor for his career...5-5. ;D
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4684207/keeyan-itejere
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It wasn't an attempt, as at least per ESPN, he turned it over before the shot. He is a perfect 100% from the floor for his career...5-5. ;D
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4684207/keeyan-itejere
An insane 7 dunks/40 min!
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He would be a god fit at UWM. They have a coach and a program that is on the the rise.
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So the three transferring will be replaced by the three recruits.
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Opens up a spot for a transfer in.
We have three freshmen coming in with no scholarship seniors graduating. Not sure how we have one open with three guys transferring out. Were we already one under the limit?
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We have three freshmen coming in with no scholarship seniors graduating. Not sure how we have one open with three guys transferring out. Were we already one under the limit?
Yes. Never replaced Justin Lewis.
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We have three freshmen coming in with no scholarship seniors graduating. Not sure how we have one open with three guys transferring out. Were we already one under the limit?
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
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https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
I’m confused. I thought we had 14 scholarship players signed for 23/24. One over the limit. Now we have three scholarship players leaving, Wrightsil, itegere and Ellis. Does that not leave two scholarships open now?
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No one was counting Wrightsil. So, counting....
Kolek
Kan
Omax
Oso
Stevie
Joplin
Ross
Sean
Gold
Tre
Al
Zaire
Keeyan
EE
Wrightsil
15-3=12
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An insane 7 dunks/40 min!
Against walk-ons.
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I told you kids a month or two ago not to worry about being over the limit. I said Ellis and Itejere would be leaving. More talent is coming in and these two would have to excel to get past the newcomers and get minutes coming off the bench. Of course it was encouraging to see their names on the roster and expectations were high. But not high sky. That was what a year ago?
What you don't want to do is go to the portal and sign someone now. Save it for a freshman somewhere who wants to jump from somewhere and sign an intent to play at MU. Smart has built his reputation being straight with his players. About their roles and playing time. How do you divide up 40 minutes? If players leave because they can't play enough to meet their expectations as a player or as someone who can contribute to a winning team, it's a sign of progress. Player development. Sorry about the kids comment. It wasn't meant to be snarky. Anyone younger than 60 is a kid to me. As far as the team goes--- The team has never been in greater shape since the seventies. Enjoy it. Next year will be special.
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PS I'm so sorry Writsil didn't get to play this year. Sorry for him and sorry for MU. He was so talented. NAIA Player of the Year. I'm sure he was looking forward to the jump to big time bb. MU needed his experience and needed him to play minutes. He was a scorer and a rebounder. It was, I'm sure, a good experience for him despite the disappointment of sitting out due to his injury. But in crap happens. And you deal with it. Life goes on.
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I told you kids a month or two ago not to worry about being over the limit. I said Ellis and Itejere would be leaving. More talent is coming in and these two would have to excel to get past the newcomers and get minutes coming off the bench. Of course it was encouraging to see their names on the roster and expectations were high. But not high sky. That was what a year ago?
What you don't want to do is go to the portal and sign someone now. Save it for a freshman somewhere who wants to jump from somewhere and sign an intent to play at MU. Smart has built his reputation being straight with his players. About their roles and playing time. How do you divide up 40 minutes? If players leave because they can't play enough to meet their expectations as a player or as someone who can contribute to a winning team, it's a sign of progress. Player development. Sorry about the kids comment. It wasn't meant to be snarky. Anyone younger than 60 is a kid to me. As far as the team goes--- The team has never been in greater shape since the seventies. Enjoy it. Next year will be special.
We just have to keep having recruiting classes where at least 3 prospects(including selected portal) turn into rotation players
We had a very good Class of Juniors this year
The Sophomore Class was solid
The Freshman all made the rotation
Looking forward to 2023 prospects
Have a good start on 2024 and if we don't take a portal player then lets fill that year with some more high quality talent
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WE STILL NEED A 6'11" RIM PROTECTOR NEXT YEAR TO SOLIDIFY THE ROSTER AND TO COMPETE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
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WE STILL NEED A 6'11" RIM PROTECTOR NEXT YEAR TO SOLIDIFY THE ROSTER AND TO COMPETE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.
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WE STILL NEED A 6'11" RIM PROTECTOR NEXT YEAR TO SOLIDIFY THE ROSTER AND TO COMPETE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
It really isn't that big of a need.
If Oso is back he is play 30+ minutes. Ben Gold will develop enough to be trusted for the other 10 and he had a solid block rate this season, he just *couldn't* get minutes.
He was solid to finish the season though. He will be awesome for this program.
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It really isn't that big of a need.
If Oso is back he is play 30+ minutes. Ben Gold will develop enough to be trusted for the other 10 and he had a solid block rate this season, he just could get minutes.
He was solid to finish the season though. He will be awesome for this program.
Thats assuming good health. That’s where the depth issue comes into play.
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Gold is like Mel Counts of the old NBA. He is a good shot but too skinny. I would still like a 6'11 to 7 footer who can rebound, block shots and dunk.
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I agree …
MU needs a big / strong/ rebounding
4/5 that can back up OSO and play 15 mins a game. The one “ missing “ piece …
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Any chance we'd want Wrightsil to back out of the portal now that we have extra spot? 🤷
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Gold is like Mel Counts of the old NBA. He is a good shot but too skinny. I would still like a 6'11 to 7 footer who can rebound, block shots and dunk.
Gold can do all that. He will add muscle with the help of Todd Smith.
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I would still like a 6'11 to 7 footer who can rebound, block shots and dunk.
So Ben Gold with a year or two in the weight room.
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Gold can do all that. He will add muscle with the help of Todd Smith.
Check dat DR% tho
Needs 2 dubble
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Gold is like Mel Counts of the old NBA. He is a good shot but too skinny. I would still like a 6'11 to 7 footer who can rebound, block shots and dunk.
Ben Gold does all of those things.
7.1% block rate this season. With great athleticism for a guy nearly 7 feet tall.
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I agree …
MU needs a big / strong/ rebounding
4/5 that can back up OSO and play 15 mins a game. The one “ missing “ piece …
I think Gold will get there but rebounding is our one weakness. Can or should we add a dead-eye shooter? I think we have enough but this has crossed my mind.
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I told you kids a month or two ago not to worry about being over the limit. I said Ellis and Itejere would be leaving. More talent is coming in and these two would have to excel to get past the newcomers and get minutes coming off the bench. Of course it was encouraging to see their names on the roster and expectations were high. But not high sky. That was what a year ago?
What you don't want to do is go to the portal and sign someone now. Save it for a freshman somewhere who wants to jump from somewhere and sign an intent to play at MU. Smart has built his reputation being straight with his players. About their roles and playing time. How do you divide up 40 minutes? If players leave because they can't play enough to meet their expectations as a player or as someone who can contribute to a winning team, it's a sign of progress. Player development. Sorry about the kids comment. It wasn't meant to be snarky. Anyone younger than 60 is a kid to me. As far as the team goes--- The team has never been in greater shape since the seventies. Enjoy it. Next year will be special.
Im not sure why your acting like your the only one here who thought these two were transferring.
We knew for a fact 1 person had to leave. Everyone thought it would be Ellis, no one was shocked when it was.
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Sounds like Keeyan is choosing between a walk-on at BYU or a scholarship at NKU.
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Tough choice, aina?
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Sounds like Keeyan is choosing between a walk-on at BYU or a scholarship at NKU.
The Horizon League highlights would be amazing. Also, would be interesting if he chose NKU and played at UW-Milwaukee how many MUBB players would watch if they had a chance.
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Sounds like Keeyan is choosing between a walk-on at BYU or a scholarship at NKU.
Can walkons get NIL? I’d be very opposed to them being able to as it seems like an easy way to get around the scholarship limit.
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Can walkons get NIL? I’d be very opposed to them being able to as it seems like an easy way to get around the scholarship limit.
Yes. All players can get NIL.
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He was expected to go to BYU. I don't know if Khalifa going their complicated things, or if the offer remained the same.
(BYU has a decent NIL program associated with their football team)
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The Horizon League highlights would be amazing. Also, would be interesting if he chose NKU and played at UW-Milwaukee how many MUBB players would watch if they had a chance.
Went to the UWM Oakland game last year in milwaukee, a majority of the mubb guys were there to see JC
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Tough choice, aina?
what would Dawn Staley suggest?
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Can walkons get NIL? I’d be very opposed to them being able to as it seems like an easy way to get around the scholarship limit.
This is still college basketball, where most players want to get playing time and prove they can go pro in some way. 13 scholarships (with NIL) is more than most schools will want to use. If Kentucky can pay 30 guys to be on their bench to screw over other schools, great! But 20 of those guys have to know they're never gonna make money in pro basketball...
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Can walkons get NIL? I’d be very opposed to them being able to as it seems like an easy way to get around the scholarship limit.
One of the major arguments for NIL was that Johnny Business was allowed to do modeling work on the side and Mary Engineer was allowed to make money on her YouTube channel, but players could not. NIL levels the playing field so ALL students (even athletes) can make money from their Name, Image, and Likeness.
So yes, walk-ons can get NIL.
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This is still college basketball, where most players want to get playing time and prove they can go pro in some way. 13 scholarships (with NIL) is more than most schools will want to use. If Kentucky can pay 30 guys to be on their bench to screw over other schools, great! But 20 of those guys have to know they're never gonna make money in pro basketball...
True, it probably wouldn’t be abused in most cases, though I could see it being used in certain situations. One example would be a team that is full on scholarships who takes a transfer that needs to sit out the first year. I guess it’s just interesting to know that the 13 scholarship limit is more of a soft requirement now than a hard one. Agree though that it won’t be used to stack teams. Everyone wants to play.
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Aren't the Badgers doing this?
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Who knew how expensive all these silent verbals would be?
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Aren't the Badgers doing this?
Carter Gilmore "You guys are getting paid to be walk-ons?"
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Aren't the Badgers doing this?
Does it really matter when their recruits are 2 stars from minnesots?
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Does it really matter when their recruits are 2 stars from minnesots?
Buzzcuts ain't cheap these days.
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The Horizon League highlights would be amazing. Also, would be interesting if he chose NKU and played at UW-Milwaukee how many MUBB players would watch if they had a chance.
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He was a popular teammate. All of them would be there.
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This is still college basketball, where most players want to get playing time and prove they can go pro in some way. 13 scholarships (with NIL) is more than most schools will want to use. If Kentucky can pay 30 guys to be on their bench to screw over other schools, great! But 20 of those guys have to know they're never gonna make money in pro basketball...
This is essentially how we ended up in this mess. Schools like Kentucky found players good paying "Jobs" watering lawns where there were sprinkler systems.
Some schools (SEC & SWC) could not play ethically so rules were put in place to make it fair for everyone. The NCAA was never motivated to limit player's ability to make money from legit opportunities. Just like the NFL's salary cap was not intended to limit players salaries but to create a competitive playing field for the benefit of the entire sport. The NFLPA and owners were proven correct.
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Looks like Keeyan has committed to Northern Kentucky
https://twitter.com/NKUNorseMBB/status/1648359115649892357
"𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗘 𝗧𝗢 𝗡𝗞𝗨 - @KItejere
𝗞𝗘𝗘𝗬𝗔𝗡 𝗜𝗧𝗘𝗝𝗘𝗥𝗘 is joining 𝗡𝗢𝗥𝗦𝗘 𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡 as the 6-9 big man + physical specimen comes to Highland Heights by way of Marquette for the 2023-24 campaign"
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This is essentially how we ended up in this mess. Schools like Kentucky found players good paying "Jobs" watering lawns where there were sprinkler systems.
Some schools (SEC & SWC) could not play ethically so rules were put in place to make it fair for everyone. The NCAA was never motivated to limit player's ability to make money from legit opportunities. Just like the NFL's salary cap was not intended to limit players salaries but to create a competitive playing field for the benefit of the entire sport. The NFLPA and owners were proven correct.
The salary cap was never meant to limit player's compensation???
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The salary cap was never meant to limit player's compensation???
Collectively, yes. Individually, no.
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Looks like Keeyan has committed to Northern Kentucky
https://twitter.com/NKUNorseMBB/status/1648359115649892357
"𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗘 𝗧𝗢 𝗡𝗞𝗨 - @KItejere
𝗞𝗘𝗘𝗬𝗔𝗡 𝗜𝗧𝗘𝗝𝗘𝗥𝗘 is joining 𝗡𝗢𝗥𝗦𝗘 𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡 as the 6-9 big man + physical specimen comes to Highland Heights by way of Marquette for the 2023-24 campaign"
Wish Keeyan all the best. A high quality young man. Will be fun to see Keeyan gets some minutes at NKU.
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The salary cap was never meant to limit player's compensation???
It intent/goal of the NFL (players and owners) was to promote balanced competition in the league that would attract greater numbers of fans and revenue to be shared by all.
One of the results was limiting individual compensation.
If I want to drive across county to sit on the beach, my intent is to go to the beach, the result is I've worn through the life of my tires. But my goal was not to wear out my tires, it was a result of reaching my goal.
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It intent/goal of the NFL (players and owners) was to promote balanced competition in the league that would attract greater numbers of fans and revenue to be shared by all.
One of the results was limiting individual compensation.
That just isn't accurate. Everything the NFL did was to limit the compensation and freedom of movement for the players. It was when Reggie White got the big deal in Green Bay as one of the original plaintifs to their lawsuit against Plan B free agency, that the NFL insisted on a salary cap in return for greater player movement in their next CBA.
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This makes a lot of sense. I think I remembered hearing Shaka and Horn were tight.
Really hoping Keeyan does well there.
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Will definitely go watch NKU vs UWM
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This makes a lot of sense. I think I remembered hearing Shaka and Horn were tight.
If by "tight," you mean "worked as an assistant under Shaka at Texas for four seasons," then yeah. :) :) :)
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Looks like Keeyan has committed to Northern Kentucky
https://twitter.com/NKUNorseMBB/status/1648359115649892357
"𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗘 𝗧𝗢 𝗡𝗞𝗨 - @KItejere
𝗞𝗘𝗘𝗬𝗔𝗡 𝗜𝗧𝗘𝗝𝗘𝗥𝗘 is joining 𝗡𝗢𝗥𝗦𝗘 𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡 as the 6-9 big man + physical specimen comes to Highland Heights by way of Marquette for the 2023-24 campaign"
Nice playing under former MU assistant and Shaka assistant at Texas Darrin Horn, quite the connection!
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Good luck, Keeyan.
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That just isn't accurate. Everything the NFL did was to limit the compensation and freedom of movement for the players. It was when Reggie White got the big deal in Green Bay as one of the original plaintifs to their lawsuit against Plan B free agency, that the NFL insisted on a salary cap in return for greater player movement in their next CBA.
How many times has the NFLPA rattified the salary cap in the past 30 years?
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Congrats Mr. Itejere! I think he has a chance to be a dominant player at that level. I foresee a lot of highlight reel dunks in his future
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How many times has the NFLPA rattified the salary cap in the past 30 years?
Right. Because they don’t have the same power as the owners and because they have decided issues like minimum contract size and off season workout schedules are more important.
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Congrats Mr. Itejere! I think he has a chance to be a dominant player at that level. I foresee a lot of highlight reel dunks in his future
But can he improve on his 1.00 efg%?
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I don’t think anyone has seen anything from Keeyan to believe that he will be dominant at any level.
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Good news for him! He found a place where he can be happy. Clap. Clap. I had high hopes for him at MU. Life is never a straight path. Zen.
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Right. Because they don’t have the same power as the owners and because they have decided issues like minimum contract size and off season workout schedules are more important.
If only they had the money to hire attorneys, agents and player reps they could address some more issues. Maybe someday. ::)
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If only they had the money to hire attorneys, agents and player reps they could address some more issues. Maybe someday. ::)
They have those things. They also don’t get paid when they are on strike or are locked out. The majority of their membership isn’t wealthy. The owners can wait them out and have all the leverage.