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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 12:38:55 PM

Title: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 12:38:55 PM
Is there a smidgen chance that Shaka would target a wide body/glass cleaner with a knock-down 3pt drainer in the Portal?  I'm not sure we have the space and I'm very happy with our returning guys and incoming players but I'm just thinking out loud here. 
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: cheebs09 on March 25, 2023, 12:41:09 PM
Is there a smidgen chance that Shaka would target a wide ,body/glass cleaner with a knock-down 3pt drainer in the Portal?  I'm not sure we have the space and I'm very happy with our returning guys and incoming players but I'm just thinking out loud here.

I’m thinking that player is heading to the draft rather than the portal.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: MU82 on March 25, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
When I went to Hebrew school 100 years ago, there was a girl in my class named Liat.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: We R Final Four on March 25, 2023, 12:45:59 PM
A wide body with a knockdown three? Those guys are very hard to come by.
Nunge……Sonogo……Crowl?
It seems Shaka prefers the lanky, athletic 6’9” ball handler.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 12:53:41 PM
A wide body with a knockdown three? Those guys are very hard to come by.
Nunge……Sonogo……Crowl?
It seems Shaka prefers the lanky, athletic 6’9” ball handler.

Any Euro guys out there?   
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: tower912 on March 25, 2023, 12:55:03 PM
I would revisit Shaka's comments about last off-season and MU's pursuit of a big man.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Markusquette on March 25, 2023, 12:55:38 PM
Not going to find a guy that does both, but one or the other would be nice. Preferably a bigger body who can rebound and take up space.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2023, 12:55:49 PM
Keep an eye on George Glass.  Heard Shaka and staff met with him this past week
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 25, 2023, 12:56:14 PM
When I went to Hebrew school 100 years ago, there was a girl in my class named Liat.



Did she take you to the hole, hey?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: tower912 on March 25, 2023, 12:59:04 PM
Keep an eye on George Glass.  Heard Shaka and staff met with him this past week
Jan Brady's imaginary boyfriend?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2023, 12:59:46 PM
Jan Brady's imaginary boyfriend?

What?!
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: CountryRoads on March 25, 2023, 01:04:20 PM
My wish for the off-season is player retention, continued player development, and good health.

If they retain their players, there’s no need to look in the portal. The chemistry and continuity of the existing players will out-weigh any marginal talent upgrade. Any guy worth the talent upgrade will want a bag and that would come with its own risks.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: MU82 on March 25, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
I would revisit Shaka's comments about last off-season and MU's pursuit of a big man.

And Scoopers' comments, too, as this was a recurring theme.

I'll repeat that I wouldn't mind the roster including a guy kinda like Jayce Johnson -- 7-footer, good rebounder, decent athlete, OK rim protector -- to play 5-10 mpg or as needed (Oso foul trouble, etc), grab a few boards and commit a couple hard fouls.

But I also get that not only aren't those easy to find, but to convince one to take such a minor role wouldn't be easy either. And maybe Shaka simply doesn't want that for his system.

In the end, all we really can do is trust Shaka's judgment on this stuff.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: tower912 on March 25, 2023, 01:06:10 PM
Well said, country roads.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 25, 2023, 01:06:48 PM
My wish for the off-season is player retention, continued player development, and good health.

If they retain their players, there’s no need to look in the portal. The chemistry and continuity of the existing players will out-weigh any marginal talent upgrade. Any guy worth the talent upgrade will want a bag and that would come with its own risks.

Bingo.  And Shaka has said they're not going to use NIL to pay for a big-time transfer so the best outcome is our guys coming back better and hungrier. 
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 25, 2023, 01:08:44 PM
Is there a smidgen chance that Shaka would target a wide body/glass cleaner with a knock-down 3pt drainer in the Portal?  I'm not sure we have the space and I'm very happy with our returning guys and incoming players but I'm just thinking out loud here.

Also he should be able to dunk from the free throw line and be a lock down defender.

Should be easy enough to come by.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 25, 2023, 01:08:49 PM
Is there a smidgen chance that Shaka would target a wide body/glass cleaner with a knock-down 3pt drainer in the Portal?
I’m predicting, with a good offseason, we have this player on our roster already.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: 79Warrior on March 25, 2023, 01:29:42 PM
Also he should be able to dunk from the free throw line and be a lock down defender.

Should be easy enough to come by.

lol
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: We R Final Four on March 25, 2023, 01:31:16 PM
I have never heard Shaka comment on rebounding. Based upon his head coaching career, he doesn’t really seem to value it as much as other coaches.
Has anyone heard Shaka directly respond to often having mediocre or sub-mediocre rebounding teams?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 25, 2023, 01:56:33 PM
Develop Ben Gold.  I think that's the plan.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 02:12:27 PM
No need to mock me, I just asked a simple question.  I never said it would be easy peasy.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 25, 2023, 02:32:40 PM
I’m thinking Gold has the potential
He already shoots the 3.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: jesmu84 on March 25, 2023, 02:33:30 PM
No need to mock me, I just asked a simple question.  I never said it would be easy peasy.

Would you prefer a transfer? Or a 5 star top 15 recruit?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: wadesworld on March 25, 2023, 02:37:29 PM
I want Ben Gold to develop into Brook Lopez, Kolek to develop into Steve Nash, Oso to develop into Giannis, Kam to develop into Dame, Stevie to develop into Jrue, Oso to develop into Mikal Bridges, Chase to develop into Wade, Sean Jones to develop into Muggsy, Keeyan to develop into Blake Griffin, Emarion to develop into SGA, and Shaka to develop into Pop. I think it’s reasonable, and if that happens I like our chances next year.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: forgetful on March 25, 2023, 02:38:32 PM
I’m thinking Gold has the potential
He already shoots the 3.

He's the one that I think has the potential to really break out.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 02:46:51 PM
Would you prefer a transfer? Or a 5 star top 15 recruit?

If we have a spot a high impact transfer. 

Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 25, 2023, 02:57:41 PM
I want Ben Gold to develop into Brook Lopez, Kolek to develop into Steve Nash, Oso to develop into Giannis, Kam to develop into Dame, Stevie to develop into Jrue, Oso to develop into Mikal Bridges, Chase to develop into Wade, Sean Jones to develop into Muggsy, Keeyan to develop into Blake Griffin, Emarion to develop into SGA, and Shaka to develop into Pop. I think it’s reasonable, and if that happens I like our chances next year.

So...you're saying Omax, Jop and Wrightsil are gone...
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: RubyWiscy on March 25, 2023, 02:58:35 PM
Kinda sounds like Gold after a summer in the weight room.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: DoctorV on March 25, 2023, 03:07:34 PM
When I went to Hebrew school 100 years ago, there was a girl in my class named Liat.

Haha what’s she up to today?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2023, 03:11:07 PM
If we have a spot a high impact transfer.

Define high impact transfer
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: mugrad_89 on March 25, 2023, 03:23:00 PM
Define high impact transfer

Aircraft carrier?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 03:30:22 PM
Define high impact transfer

It's obviously about production.  Whether it be buckets, boards, rim protecting, versatility on both ends of the floor or what have you. 
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: jesmu84 on March 25, 2023, 03:39:12 PM
I want Ben Gold to develop into Brook Lopez, Kolek to develop into Steve Nash, Oso to develop into Giannis, Kam to develop into Dame, Stevie to develop into Jrue, Oso to develop into Mikal Bridges, Chase to develop into Wade, Sean Jones to develop into Muggsy, Keeyan to develop into Blake Griffin, Emarion to develop into SGA, and Shaka to develop into Pop. I think it’s reasonable, and if that happens I like our chances next year.

Will you be offended if people mock you for this opinion?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: jesmu84 on March 25, 2023, 03:39:39 PM
If we have a spot a high impact transfer.

Oh okay.

I thought you were being 100% unrealistic. Turns out you're only 95% unrealistic
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 03:59:50 PM
Oh okay.

I thought you were being 100% unrealistic. Turns out you're only 95% unrealistic

I'm not sure I'm shooting for the moon here, so to speak.  Anyway....I think MU could be an attractive destination for someone who wants a natty title run.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2023, 04:00:49 PM
I'm not sure I'm shooting for the moon here so to speak.  Anyway....I think MU could be an attractive destination for someone who wants a natty title run.

I doubt it.  The roster is pretty set barring Oso or OMax leaving
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: wadesworld on March 25, 2023, 04:01:29 PM
So...you're saying Omax, Jop and Wrightsil are gone...

Oops. I meant OMax as Bridges. Doubled up Oso.

I do think Wrightsil is gone.

Kind of forgot Jop. I hope he just continues his phone celebration. Fires me up.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 04:57:13 PM
I doubt it.  The roster is pretty set barring Oso or OMax leaving

Again, I'm happy with what we have assuming everyone is back.  I'm just throwing it out there. 
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Jockey on March 25, 2023, 04:59:20 PM
I’m predicting, with a good offseason, we have this player on our roster already.

Exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Jockey on March 25, 2023, 05:00:25 PM
I want Ben Gold to develop into Brook Lopez, Kolek to develop into Steve Nash, Oso to develop into Giannis, Kam to develop into Dame, Stevie to develop into Jrue, Oso to develop into Mikal Bridges, Chase to develop into Wade, Sean Jones to develop into Muggsy, Keeyan to develop into Blake Griffin, Emarion to develop into SGA, and Shaka to develop into Pop. I think it’s reasonable, and if that happens I like our chances next year.

You want Sean Jones to start 12 threads a day? When will he practice?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 05:02:26 PM
Exactly what I was thinking.

Well, if our three Frosh take that next step look the H out.  What's great Is all three have different skill sets  too. 
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: willie warrior on March 25, 2023, 05:06:08 PM
Develop Ben Gold.  I think that's the plan.
That will be a project
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: willie warrior on March 25, 2023, 05:11:59 PM
I’m thinking Gold has the potential
He already shoots the 3.
He shoots the three but doesn't make many
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: real chili 83 on March 25, 2023, 05:36:28 PM
We have a Kam Jones

We have a Sean Jones

We need a Basketball Jones

https://youtu.be/moeY_ZGWD5o
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 25, 2023, 05:37:06 PM
Wee kneed a Goldin, aina?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish Liat
Post by: Viper on March 25, 2023, 06:08:28 PM


Did she take you to the hole, hey?
she played D. Protect the (t)rim.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: tower912 on March 25, 2023, 08:27:50 PM
In the end, my wish is for the team to stay together as much as possible.   And for all of the returnees to progress and develop like last year.

For help to arrive from outside, there will first have to be multiple departures.  I would prefer continuity.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2023, 08:29:14 PM
He shoots the three but doesn't make many

My problem with Gold is, he needs to get his head out of his rectal area.  I think he hangs out with Jaloply and Cam to much
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 25, 2023, 08:34:26 PM
He shoots the three but doesn't make many

He shot 39.3% from 3 in Big East play, which was highest on the team.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 25, 2023, 08:38:40 PM
My problem with Gold is, he needs to get his head out of his rectal area.  I think he hangs out with Jaloply and Cam to much

Excuse me?  I'm lost here.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: tower912 on March 25, 2023, 08:39:37 PM
Schtick.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2023, 08:41:07 PM
He shot 39.3% from 3 in Big East play, which was highest on the team.

Facts are overrated
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 25, 2023, 08:44:17 PM
Excuse me?  I'm lost here.

Consider the source then reread it with the proper tone
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: We R Final Four on March 25, 2023, 08:51:56 PM
In the end, my wish is for the team to stay together as much as possible.   And for all of the returnees to progress and develop like last year.

For help to arrive from outside, there will first have to be multiple departures.  I would prefer continuity.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 25, 2023, 09:53:48 PM
He shoots the three but doesn't make many
Get Gold out their right now! Benhc him!
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: jesmu84 on March 25, 2023, 10:17:25 PM
I'm not sure I'm shooting for the moon here, so to speak.  Anyway....I think MU could be an attractive destination for someone who wants a natty title run.

Not shooting for the moon?

Quote
wide body/glass cleaner with a knock-down 3pt drainer

How many of those guys exist in all of college bball?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Viper on March 26, 2023, 08:04:13 AM
He shot 39.3% from 3 in Big East play, which was highest on the team.
we chose truth over facts
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: brewcity77 on March 26, 2023, 08:11:37 AM
My list is three things...

So by my estimation, Ben Gold with 15 pounds of muscle, a healthy Sean Jones, and improvement or impact from Chase Ross & Tre Norman is everything we need.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on March 26, 2023, 08:18:12 AM
Kolek improve his floater. Stevie not be a zero on offense. Omax not trip over his own feet. Joplin learn how to dribble.

Fix those and we’ll be in the F4.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 26, 2023, 08:26:12 AM
Kam being much more consistent. 

Oso being more assertive offensively, especially when matchup favors him. 

OMax a vastly improved rebounder.  He needs to give us much more in that area.  Also shoot fewer threes. 
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: TedBaxter on March 26, 2023, 08:28:11 AM
My list is three things...

  • A big that can back up Oso, but also play with him and step out to shoot from range.
  • A change of pace point guard to give Tyler some rest.
  • A combo guard/wing that can get his own shot & defend at a high level.
So by my estimation, Ben Gold with 15 pounds of muscle, a healthy Sean Jones, and improvement or impact from Chase Ross & Tre Norman is everything we need.

Agree 100% with this.  I'd only add continued development of everyone and that's kind of a Captain Obvious comment. 
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: We R Final Four on March 26, 2023, 08:28:41 AM
Open shooter shoots the 3.
I don’t expect anyone to pass up open 3s in this offense.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 26, 2023, 09:12:06 AM
More and more Violence!
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2023, 10:09:02 AM
My list is three things...

  • A big that can back up Oso, but also play with him and step out to shoot from range.
  • A change of pace point guard to give Tyler some rest.
  • A combo guard/wing that can get his own shot & defend at a high level.
So by my estimation, Ben Gold with 15 pounds of muscle, a healthy Sean Jones, and improvement or impact from Chase Ross & Tre Norman is everything we need.

This is fair Brew.   
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 26, 2023, 10:26:32 AM
My list is three things...

  • A big that can back up Oso, but also play with him and step out to shoot from range.
  • A change of pace point guard to give Tyler some rest.
  • A combo guard/wing that can get his own shot & defend at a high level.
So by my estimation, Ben Gold with 15 pounds of muscle, a healthy Sean Jones, and improvement or impact from Chase Ross & Tre Norman is everything we need.

Love it! This beats Hell out of reading about Marquette's obituaries in the tourney.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 26, 2023, 10:35:59 AM
I'd have to see more outta Gold. Right now, he's not that guy. You can see the lack of confidence and indecision in his face, hey?
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: We R Final Four on March 26, 2023, 10:40:14 AM
I'd have to see more outta Gold. Right now, he's not that guy. You can see the lack of confidence and indecision in his face, hey?
Lack of confidence? No.
Indecisive? Yes.
I see Ben as trying to find what he should be doing at all times on the court. It hasn’t come naturally yet.
He certainly has confidence shooting that open 3 and driving the lane to finish with either hand.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: WarriorFan on March 26, 2023, 01:28:53 PM
Lack of confidence? No.
Indecisive? Yes.
I see Ben as trying to find what he should be doing at all times on the court. It hasn’t come naturally yet.
He certainly has confidence shooting that open 3 and driving the lane to finish with either hand.
This is easily solved with the Ben Gold Decision Tree:
Open 3:  Shoot
Not open:  Drive and Dunk
Successful implementation of this decision tree will creat 12-15ppg for Mr. Gold next season.

Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: cheebs09 on March 26, 2023, 01:36:57 PM
I'd have to see more outta Gold. Right now, he's not that guy. You can see the lack of confidence and indecision in his face, hey?

As a project big, Ben far exceeded my expectations. I think he takes a nice jump next year.
Title: Re: Tweaks/Wish List
Post by: real chili 83 on March 26, 2023, 01:42:12 PM
This ^^^^^^