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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:00:03 PM

Title: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:00:03 PM
LET'S GO NOW!  We must take care of business. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on December 27, 2022, 07:01:26 PM
Hi Muggsy
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Post by: NickelDimer on December 27, 2022, 07:09:00 PM
Bardo calling it like it is with FT discrepancy against Friars
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 27, 2022, 07:09:19 PM
Marquette has too many rebounds.  Will hurt their seeding
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Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:09:35 PM
Move the freaking basketball.  So-so start. 
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Post by: MUUWUWM on December 27, 2022, 07:10:08 PM
This is going to be a grinder!
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 27, 2022, 07:10:20 PM
Wow!
Commentators ripping the officiating from the Providence game.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on December 27, 2022, 07:10:21 PM
Marquette has too many rebounds.  Will hurt their seeding
SH making threes, we GOWNE
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUUWUWM on December 27, 2022, 07:12:26 PM
my god...they  have  made one
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Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2022, 07:13:27 PM
TK with a perfect pass
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Post by: Uncle Rico on December 27, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Nice foul, OMax.  That’s why he’ll never play in the NBA
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Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 07:15:04 PM
Two on Omax already is sub optimal.

Otherwise pretty good start. Good disruptive D and getting solid looks on O mostly generated by TK
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 07:16:30 PM
Great recovery D by Gold
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Post by: MUUWUWM on December 27, 2022, 07:16:47 PM
my God the offense is terrible.....
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:16:55 PM
BAM.  Nice dime from Jones to Jones. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUUWUWM on December 27, 2022, 07:17:36 PM
my God the offense is terrible.....
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oh yea  this is the board you use teal..
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:19:41 PM
Jop needs to bring that ball out.  Poor decision. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2022, 07:19:51 PM
my God the offense is terrible.....
All three juniors were on the bench
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Elonsmusk on December 27, 2022, 07:22:51 PM
Jop needs to bring that ball out.  Poor decision.

A simple area of improvement in his game would be to realize he doesn't have to shoot every single time he gets the ball whether via the pass or off of him getting his own rebound off of a missed shot..
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:23:57 PM
A simple area of improvement in his game would be to realize he doesn't have to shoot every single time he gets the ball whether via the pass or off of him getting his own rebound off of a missed shot..

Fair point. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:25:10 PM
Awful few mins of hoops for MU. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 07:25:27 PM
We are in a wooooooooooooof stretch now

Unlucky that they whole run started off a total brick where the ball deadened right to their guy for a lay in.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:26:20 PM
So a missed open shot is an “almost perfect three”?
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:26:43 PM
The crowd seems listless to me.  We need more energy. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUUWUWM on December 27, 2022, 07:27:34 PM
The crowd seems listless to me.  We need more energy.

So get to a game and  bring it on!
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on December 27, 2022, 07:28:56 PM
D is sus
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: nyg on December 27, 2022, 07:29:06 PM
Typical MU scoring drought.  Almost five minutes without a point, jacking them up.

At least it wasn't the last seven minutes with an 11 point lead. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:29:19 PM
SH has a perfect run going…yelling “and 1” on every layup they’ve taken
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:30:46 PM
Typical MU scoring drought.  Almost five minutes without a point, jacking them up.

At least it wasn't the last seven minutes with an 11 point lead.

Way too much iso ball. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on December 27, 2022, 07:33:38 PM
Really bad at the moment

Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:35:48 PM
We're allowing way too many diagonal cuts to the rim.  Freaking focus. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:36:52 PM
Everything about that possession was awful, including the shot, but it went in
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
Let's go now!!  Stretch this out!
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:38:52 PM
OSO!!
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:39:14 PM
That was a fun couple minutes
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:39:26 PM
Keep getting dunks!!! 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 07:39:45 PM
Elite coaching move bringing back Omax with two fouls

Immediate shift in the game getting his length back in there.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2022, 07:39:48 PM
Good shot selection
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on December 27, 2022, 07:41:14 PM
Elite coaching move bringing back Omax with two fouls

Immediate shift in the game getting his length back in there.

Two fouls in the first half shouldn’t necessarily mean you’re on the bench the rest of the half - great move by Shaka.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 07:41:55 PM
Two fouls in the first half shouldn’t necessarily mean you’re on the bench the rest of the half - great move by Shaka.

100% and he tried to ride the bench as long as possible. But knew it was time to get a dog back in there.

Big time move
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:44:37 PM
Big 3 minutes here
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:45:24 PM
Not a good first 15 seconds of the 3 minutes
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 07:45:37 PM
Nice every foul is on us again.

Even as we get all ball.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2022, 07:45:45 PM
All ball
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:45:47 PM
Lost focus up 14 with the ball.  Cannot happen. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:47:33 PM
WTF???

Absolutely infuriating.  Gotta close whether it be the 1st half or 2nd half. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:47:44 PM
Shaka’s right.  Screen stuck his knee out. Should have done a Premier League flop
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:48:49 PM
Mitchell had a lay-up!!  WTH!!!
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 07:49:27 PM
OUr inability to make wide open 3s is much more frustrating than fouls only being one one end.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:49:54 PM
Damn, 3 threes were 1/2 way down
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on December 27, 2022, 07:50:32 PM
Good grief - how many threes have been halfway down?  😳
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:51:14 PM
Big 3 there after an extremely disappointing last 4 mins. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on December 27, 2022, 07:51:56 PM
finally a garbage circus shot in our favor
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 07:52:19 PM
I’ll give that guy at the end of SH’s bench credit.  His expression didn’t change after Kam’s crazy bank shot or after Jop’s prayer 3 at the buzzer.  Good poker face
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: nyg on December 27, 2022, 07:53:20 PM
34-20 with 3:40 to go.  MU scored 2 points(Mitchell layup) until the prayer by Joplin.  Too many missed threes, but that is the system. 

In two stretches of play, MU went almost eight full minutes, scoring two points. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on December 27, 2022, 07:53:34 PM
Shaka ball gets runs and gives up runs ...
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on December 27, 2022, 07:54:44 PM
Shaka ball gets runs and gives up runs ...

To be fair, the last run was with Oso and Omax on the bench.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:56:56 PM
To be fair, the last run was with Oso and Omax on the bench.

True.  But Oso cannot get two cheap fouls in the last 3 mins of the half.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on December 27, 2022, 07:58:35 PM
True.  But Iso cannot get two cheap fouls in the last 3 mins of the half.

Agreed, but Samuel got away with a hook on Oso just before the foul.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 07:59:51 PM
Agreed, but Samuel got away with a hook on Oso just before the foul.

Yes.  We clearly need those two guys on the floor. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 27, 2022, 08:00:52 PM
MU gave up an 11-0 and a 9-0 run in the first half and are up 7. I’m afraid those end of game runs by other teams where we can’t score are just who we are - great for short stints, bad for others. They come at various times with little to no warning.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 27, 2022, 08:07:56 PM
MU gave up an 11-0 and a 9-0 run in the first half and are up 7. I’m afraid those end of game runs by other teams where we can’t score are just who we are - great for short stints, bad for others. They come at various times with little to no warning.

Evidently. 

Feels like we're one more consistent scorer away from being pretty good.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:08:08 PM
I foresee a Kam T
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:12:21 PM
Stevie is fearless
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:14:39 PM
It’s like the universe is making up for Tyler scoring 29 last time. No points for you… only assists
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 08:15:31 PM
Odd seeing Jop completely unprepared to shoot.

TK gifted him a wide open 3.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: statnik on December 27, 2022, 08:16:37 PM
When I was a student in the super BE I don’t even think the fouls were skewed so much to punish reaching and grabbing even if contact is minimal and reward physicality that in some leagues is a foul.  Not favorable for the team so far in conference play.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2022, 08:20:17 PM
WTF Jop
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:20:38 PM
Good grief.  Why did Jop take that shot?  Smh.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 08:21:19 PM
Ross was just fouled two straight possessions that have been called on us 17 times tonight. LIterally


Holy sh it. They finally called a foul on Koleks drive.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:21:30 PM
What did Shaka just do to Jones ?
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on December 27, 2022, 08:22:16 PM
tickle fight
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 08:24:40 PM
SJ is the dude in Mighty Ducks who cant stop.


Hes fast as hell and can get to the rim at a moments notice. But has zero finese once he gets there and its a wild lay up everytime.

Get that under control and hes gonna be a good one.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Newsdreams on December 27, 2022, 08:25:17 PM
MU winning because 100% fts
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:25:33 PM
Sean just needs to settle down.  He can blow by guys at will.  In time he will figure out when to dish vs shoot. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 08:26:33 PM
Sean just needs to settle down.  He can blow by guys at will.  In time he will figure out when to dish vs shoot.

Yup basically what I just said.

Ross is the much better college player right now because hes very controlled. But both have very bright futures.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on December 27, 2022, 08:28:56 PM
gold needs to sit
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:29:13 PM
Sean’s speed gave him that open shot
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:30:21 PM
The game would be over if we could secure the d-glass. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on December 27, 2022, 08:30:56 PM
The game would be over if we could secure the d-glass.

It’d easily be a 20 point game.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUBBau on December 27, 2022, 08:32:20 PM
Sean. Jones.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 08:32:27 PM
WOW

An SJ shooting clinic.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:32:35 PM
Sean. Jones.
Who knew
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:32:43 PM
Three huge 3's from Jones the Younger. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2022, 08:33:16 PM
Apparently a belly rub is the key?
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 27, 2022, 08:33:47 PM
Now he’s going to think he’s a shooter.  Not good
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 27, 2022, 08:35:05 PM
Now he’s going to think he’s a shooter.  Not good
Adds to the too much depth problem
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Miss Katie’s on December 27, 2022, 08:35:51 PM
Apparently a belly rub is the key?

The missing element at the end of regulation vs the Friars. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:36:50 PM
So it’s legal to punch the defender in the face as long as you keep your dribble?
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on December 27, 2022, 08:37:56 PM
So it’s legal to punch the defender in the face as long as you keep your dribble?

Looked obvious on TV when he fully extended his off arm

Guess less obvious to the refs on the floor
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on December 27, 2022, 08:38:45 PM
So it’s legal to punch the defender in the face as long as you keep your dribble?

Only so long as you’re not wearing a Marquette uniform.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 08:39:13 PM
OMax gets stiff armed in the face


At least we didnt get called for the foul, progress I guess.

This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Mu8891 on December 27, 2022, 08:39:27 PM
Wow.

2nd half has been MU at their best.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on December 27, 2022, 08:40:08 PM
seton hell sucks
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:41:38 PM
Looked obvious on TV when he fully extended his off arm

Guess less obvious to the refs on the floor
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on December 27, 2022, 08:43:13 PM


OMax clearly fouled him with his face.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:45:20 PM
Theo would have gotten a flagrant foul
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:45:54 PM


Absurd.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Johnny B on December 27, 2022, 08:46:11 PM
saturday should be fun
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:47:12 PM
Wow.

2nd half has been MU at their best.

The Prov game was very unfortunate.  Mu is capable of inflicting damage but we need to figure out how to win close games.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Tyler COLEk on December 27, 2022, 08:48:38 PM
I don't care for all these Marquette blowouts. Sign of an inconsistent team. Back in the Wojo era this team played COMPETITIVE games.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:49:59 PM
Does anyone else hyperventilate when Joplin dribbles in the open court?
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:50:28 PM
Crap, here comes the run.  Hold on
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:50:41 PM
Ughhh.  Do we understand games are 40 mins?????
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Tyler COLEk on December 27, 2022, 08:51:10 PM
Crap, here comes the run.  Hold on
Let's run it up for sure, but this game has been over for eight minutes.

Another game where Marquette is victim of horrible officiating in their opponent's favor.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: jesmu84 on December 27, 2022, 08:51:55 PM
All ball by Kam

Phantom foul on Stevie

Now crap on Omax

Refs keeping it close
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:52:01 PM
Let's run it up for sure, but this game has been over for eight minutes.
It’s less over than it was 2 minutes ago
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 27, 2022, 08:52:19 PM
STOP CALLING OFF THE DOGS

Jesus we suck so bad late in games.

If its close, we lose the game.

If its a blowout, we lose about 8 pts towards NET.

This is embarrassing right now. PUt in the bench and completely took the air out of the ball. The BE sucks this year we have to blow out trash at home.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 08:52:59 PM
Let's run it up for sure, but this game has been over for eight minutes.

You can't let your foot off the gas.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Tyler COLEk on December 27, 2022, 08:53:45 PM
You can't let your foot off the gas.
Agreed, but this game was never in doubt.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 27, 2022, 08:53:58 PM
The one thing I really dislike about Shaka is how early he puts his subs in towards the end of games.

It’s happened multiple times this year where a 20+ point lead comes back down to 8-10 point wins.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: mugrad_89 on December 27, 2022, 08:54:59 PM
The one thing I really dislike about Shaka is how early he puts his subs in towards the end of games.

It’s happened multiple times this year where a 20+ point lead comes back down to 8-10 point wins.

And they get penalized for it by the stupid NET.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on December 27, 2022, 08:55:12 PM
Offense is 100 times better when we don’t hold it which we did the last 5 minutes of the providence game.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 27, 2022, 08:56:48 PM
So you can just take a free throw away because someone says something, without calling a T?
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: WolfganghisKhan on December 27, 2022, 08:56:57 PM
nice dub
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Elonsmusk on December 27, 2022, 09:08:36 PM
WTF Jop

I agree with this analysis.  Jop drives me nuts.  His basketball IQ needs improvement, as does his willingness to share the basketball occasionally.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MuggsyB on December 27, 2022, 09:14:39 PM
I agree with this analysis.  Jop drives me nuts.  His basketball IQ needs improvement, as does his willingness to share the basketball occasionally.

He struggles off the dribble.  Especially when help comes. 
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: PointWarrior on December 27, 2022, 09:20:15 PM
Shaka ball likes to serve cookie crumbles, even in blowouts.

The one thing I really dislike about Shaka is how early he puts his subs in towards the end of games.

It’s happened multiple times this year where a 20+ point lead comes back down to 8-10 point wins.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on December 27, 2022, 10:11:33 PM
I agree with this analysis.  Jop drives me nuts.  His basketball IQ needs improvement, as does his willingness to share the basketball occasionally.

He had the most shot attempts tonight.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: LAZER on December 27, 2022, 10:15:50 PM
He had the most shot attempts tonight.
Feels like he’s been told to attack the basket and get into the post and he’s been given a leash too. He’s shown enough promise to where I think they should keep at it, but there’s obviously a balance. Frustrating no doubt, but I think if he can develop that part of his game, he’ll be a lot to handle.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: BCHoopster on December 27, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
Jop is one of the players that has white man disease, has zero hops. Watched warm-ups and barely can dunk.  Unique player, needs to understand what is a good shot is. Will learn
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: BLWarrior91 on December 28, 2022, 04:04:48 PM
Bardo calling it like it is with FT discrepancy against Friars

The Big East brass must have gotten to him because he walked back these comments later in the game.  He claimed he wasn’t criticizing the officials…lol.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: MUEng92 on December 29, 2022, 09:04:45 AM
The Big East brass must have gotten to him because he walked back these comments later in the game.  He claimed he wasn’t criticizing the officials…lol.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist (except about all the people who are against me) but that 2nd discussion of the PU game seemed totally out of the blue and downright weird.  I can’t think of any other reason for it but someone literally talking in his ear.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 29, 2022, 09:38:46 AM
I’m not a conspiracy theorist (except about all the people who are against me) but that 2nd discussion of the PU game seemed totally out of the blue and downright weird.  I can’t think of any other reason for it but someone literally talking in his ear.

In all games, MU's defensive free throw rate is a dip below the national average.  In the Big East so far, MU's defensive FTR is last in conference...by a lot. More so, our offensive FTR is a lot less than our total season average.

Did MU start fouling a lot more all of a sudden and start getting fouled a lot less?  Even despite leading late in all three games?  Did the points of emphasis change for conference play?  Allowing body bumps versus hand defense?

Style of play is going to be an issue for MU all conference season.  Bully Ball will be rewarded for teams like UCONN, PC and SH and not finesse play. It's the Big East Way apparently and as long as these refs reward that, MU will be at a disadvantage.  There is no question in my mind MU AD complained after the PC game and the Home Office is super sensitive as that was a decade long outlier. Yet, adapt and adjust must be the consideration.

At one time out in the 2nd versus SH, Shaka sprinted/ran to half court bitching at Claugherty.  I am surprised he didn't get T'ed, but I'd also be more surprised that he didn't want to get one.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: jfp61 on December 29, 2022, 10:37:00 AM
In all games, MU's defensive free throw rate is a dip below the national average.  In the Big East so far, MU's defensive FTR is last in conference...by a lot. More so, our offensive FTR is a lot less than our total season average.

Did MU start fouling a lot more all of a sudden and start getting fouled a lot less?  Even despite leading late in all three games?  Did the points of emphasis change for conference play?  Allowing body bumps versus hand defense?

Style of play is going to be an issue for MU all conference season.  Bully Ball will be rewarded for teams like UCONN, PC and SH and not finesse play. It's the Big East Way apparently and as long as these refs reward that, MU will be at a disadvantage.  There is no question in my mind MU AD complained after the PC game and the Home Office is super sensitive as that was a decade long outlier. Yet, adapt and adjust must be the consideration.

At one time out in the 2nd versus SH, Shaka sprinted/ran to half court bitching at Claugherty.  I am surprised he didn't get T'ed, but I'd also be more surprised that he didn't want to get one.

Two teams play the game and dictate the style.

Creighton is 274th in FTA/FGA. Creighton shot 5 free throws against Marquette.
Providence is 20th in FTA/FGA. Providence shot 49 free throws against Marquette (averages in 39 in an average game on just a minutes basis, but Marquette was in the bonus for those 10 extra minutes so its more like 33ish).
Seton Hall is 7th in FTA/FGA. Seton Hall shot 22 free throws against Marquette.

UConn is a horrible matchup for everyone.
Title: Re: MU/Hall Game Thread
Post by: DoctorV on December 29, 2022, 12:00:33 PM
Two teams play the game and dictate the style.

Creighton is 274th in FTA/FGA. Creighton shot 5 free throws against Marquette.
Providence is 20th in FTA/FGA. Providence shot 49 free throws against Marquette (averages in 39 in an average game on just a minutes basis, but Marquette was in the bonus for those 10 extra minutes so its more like 33ish).
Seton Hall is 7th in FTA/FGA. Seton Hall shot 22 free throws against Marquette.

UConn is a horrible matchup for everyone.

What’s Nova?
How about UConn?
And our very own Marquette?