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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: MU82 on December 15, 2022, 08:42:58 AM
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From the NYTimes:
Many Americans are so accustomed to the daily toll of gun violence that they may not realize how much of an outlier the U.S. is for anything related to firearms. Outside of mass shootings like the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School (which happened 10 years ago yesterday), killings of children rarely get much attention.
Guns are now the No. 1 cause of deaths among American children and teens, ahead of car crashes, other injuries and congenital disease.
In other rich countries, gun deaths are not even among the top four causes of death, a recent Kaiser Family Foundation report found. The U.S. accounts for 97 percent of gun-related child deaths among similarly large and wealthy countries, despite making up just 46 percent of this group’s overall population.
(https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic01.nyt.com%2Fimages%2F2022%2F12%2F14%2Fbriefing%2F15morning-kids-gun-deaths-chart%2FoakImage-1671058324147-articleLarge.png&t=1671114746&ymreqid=3c8d0d78-3338-e941-1c31-720509012300&sig=xQ2RDFYvC149nGvF7aPj3g--~D)
If the U.S. had gun death rates similar to Canada’s, about 26,000 fewer children would have died since 2010, according to Kaiser. But the trend has been going in the opposite direction: Gun deaths among teens and younger kids have gone up in the U.S., while they have declined elsewhere. The victims are disproportionately people of color, most often Black boys.
Why is America such an outlier? Because it has many more guns. The U.S. has more guns than people. This abundance of guns makes it much easier for anyone to carry out an act of violence with a firearm in America than in any other wealthy country.
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No chance this thread lasts.
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No chance this thread lasts.
We should open a new topic on bringing back football. And the medical school. Those have about as much chance at covering new ground as this one does.
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Mike, I agree with everything. You know it is going to get locked. Why?
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Mike, I agree with everything. You know it is going to get locked. Why?
100%, and I am sure someone reading the original post will have their opinions changed.
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It's new information about an important topic. It's a U.S. milestone, albeit a sad one.
I thought it was worth posting. Those who disagree can just avoid it. Free country, and all that.
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Probably time to keep repeat perps in prison so they stop killing kids.
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IBTL
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Mike needs attention day.
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It's a tragedy however you look at it, but I really do wonder about putting out a study like this using the ages 1-19. It says that guns are the number one cause of death among children and teens. Are they really? "Children and teens"? Or "children and teens combined"? Because I strongly suspect that if you take out the "teens," guns are not the leading cause of death among "children."
I really hope that people don't misinterpret this post as discounting the seriousness of the issue. I just think that by grouping children 1-12 with teens they are just trolling for headlines like the one we see above. The reality -- and maybe the study makes this clear even if the headline does not -- is that the epidemic of gun violence among teens (and likely most especially in the 16-19 range) is so severe that it results in gun deaths being the #1 cause of death for the entire group.
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It's a tragedy however you look at it, but I really do wonder about putting out a study like this using the ages 1-19. It says that guns are the number one cause of death among children and teens. Are they really? "Children and teens"? Or "children and teens combined"? Because I strongly suspect that if you take out the "teens," guns are not the leading cause of death among "children."
I really hope that people don't misinterpret this post as discounting the seriousness of the issue. I just think that by grouping children 1-12 with teens they are just trolling for headlines like the one we see above. The reality -- and maybe the study makes this clear even if the headline does not -- is that the epidemic of gun violence among teens (and likely most especially in the 16-19 range) is so severe that it results in gun deaths being the #1 cause of death for the entire group.
Are you suggesting the NY Times is playing politics??? That is as crazy as suggesting FOX News does also.
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It's a tragedy however you look at it, but I really do wonder about putting out a study like this using the ages 1-19. It says that guns are the number one cause of death among children and teens. Are they really? "Children and teens"? Or "children and teens combined"? Because I strongly suspect that if you take out the "teens," guns are not the leading cause of death among "children."
I really hope that people don't misinterpret this post as discounting the seriousness of the issue. I just think that by grouping children 1-12 with teens they are just trolling for headlines like the one we see above. The reality -- and maybe the study makes this clear even if the headline does not -- is that the epidemic of gun violence among teens (and likely most especially in the 16-19 range) is so severe that it results in gun deaths being the #1 cause of death for the entire group.
From the same NYT article
(https://i.imgur.com/G2wH42v.png)
Overall, gun deaths among children jumped sharply in 2020 and again in 2021. A 31 percent increase for children 17 and 18 since 2019 is troubling enough, but the increase was 74 percent for children 9 and younger.
About 45 percent of gun homicides of children and more than half of suicides last year were among children under 17. Once again, racial disparity is present at all ages. Black children are now far more likely to be shot and killed than white children at every age — from the moment they can walk until they are old enough to vote.
The underlying data sets are here if you're interested
Up until 2020 https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html
Provisional data up until now-ish https://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd-icd10-provisional.html
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From the same NYT article
(https://i.imgur.com/G2wH42v.png)
Overall, gun deaths among children jumped sharply in 2020 and again in 2021. A 31 percent increase for children 17 and 18 since 2019 is troubling enough, but the increase was 74 percent for children 9 and younger.
About 45 percent of gun homicides of children and more than half of suicides last year were among children under 17. Once again, racial disparity is present at all ages. Black children are now far more likely to be shot and killed than white children at every age — from the moment they can walk until they are old enough to vote.
The underlying data sets are here if you're interested
Up until 2020 https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html
Provisional data up until now-ish https://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd-icd10-provisional.html
Tragic. Thanks for that data, Ska.
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Probably time to keep repeat perps in prison so they stop killing kids.
The vast majority of the killers are kids themselves. While people like MU82 will blame guns, a huge factor is gang life/violence that is so prolific in the areas where these kids are dying
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I am having trouble understanding what this sentence means:
About 45 percent of gun homicides of children and more than half of suicides last year were among children under 17.
Does this mean that 17 year olds accounted for 55% of gun homicides and almost half of suicides of all people under the age of 18?
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The vast majority of the killers are kids themselves. While people like MU82 will blame guns, a huge factor is gang life/violence that is so prolific in the areas where these kids are dying
I suggest banning kids.
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I am having trouble understanding what this sentence means:
Does this mean that 17 year olds accounted for 55% of gun homicides and almost half of suicides of all people under the age of 18?
18 year olds are included in the data set, from a glance at the graphs. So 55% of homicides/suicides are 17-18 year olds.
That's reflected in the graphs. Quick maths: ~1,700 deaths vs ~1,500 in 2021
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https://twitter.com/matsoncartoons/status/1603021433138987016?s=46&t=WX8XOpOlWgIieDxsk68yRA
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Wow scoop. This is alive after a full day? Are we adults?
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Father of Accused Highland Park Gunman Charged in Connection With Shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/highland-park-shooting-gunman-father-charged.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20221216&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline®i_id=108420427&segment_id=120120&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
CHICAGO — Prosecutors in suburban Chicago charged the father of a man accused of killing seven people at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Ill., with felonies on Friday, claiming that he acted recklessly when he signed onto his son’s application for a gun ownership permit.
The seven counts of reckless conduct filed against the father, Robert Crimo Jr., mark at least the second time in recent years that a parent of an accused mass killer has faced charges for their actions leading up to the attack, and it could signal increased willingness by prosecutors to seek punishment for family members who may have ignored warning signs or provided access to weapons.
“People bear responsibility when they recklessly endanger others,” said Eric Rinehart, the top prosecutor in Lake County, as he announced the charges, which can carry a sentence of up to three years in prison. He claimed the father knew about a series of concerning episodes involving his son before he signed the gun application permit, and that endorsing that application was reckless.
“The government is not typically going to know more than a parent about what’s going on,” Mr. Rinehart said, “with an 18-, 19- or 20-year-old.”
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Father of Accused Highland Park Gunman Charged in Connection With Shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/highland-park-shooting-gunman-father-charged.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20221216&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline®i_id=108420427&segment_id=120120&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
CHICAGO — Prosecutors in suburban Chicago charged the father of a man accused of killing seven people at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Ill., with felonies on Friday, claiming that he acted recklessly when he signed onto his son’s application for a gun ownership permit.
The seven counts of reckless conduct filed against the father, Robert Crimo Jr., mark at least the second time in recent years that a parent of an accused mass killer has faced charges for their actions leading up to the attack, and it could signal increased willingness by prosecutors to seek punishment for family members who may have ignored warning signs or provided access to weapons.
“People bear responsibility when they recklessly endanger others,” said Eric Rinehart, the top prosecutor in Lake County, as he announced the charges, which can carry a sentence of up to three years in prison. He claimed the father knew about a series of concerning episodes involving his son before he signed the gun application permit, and that endorsing that application was reckless.
“The government is not typically going to know more than a parent about what’s going on,” Mr. Rinehart said, “with an 18-, 19- or 20-year-old.”
This made me look into the other 2 parents who were arrested and am very surprise to see them s behind bars awaiting trial.
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For hards:
https://www.wkow.com/townnews/law/tsa-intercepts-record-number-of-firearms-at-airport-checkpoints-in-2022-most-of-them-loaded/article_404aa92b-952d-549e-85ac-5eec2804bfef.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_WKOW (https://www.wkow.com/townnews/law/tsa-intercepts-record-number-of-firearms-at-airport-checkpoints-in-2022-most-of-them-loaded/article_404aa92b-952d-549e-85ac-5eec2804bfef.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_WKOW)
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I suggest banning kids.
And poverty.
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And poverty.
Typical red herring response.
Abject poverty in the Great Depression did not cause kids to routinely kill each other.
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Good call. Not nearly so many guns then. Thanks.
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Typical red herring response.
Abject poverty in the Great Depression did not cause kids to routinely kill each other.
Gun and drug availability plus the prevalence of gang culture. Poverty with a stable family which was more common back then is a hell of a lot different than poverty with substance abusing parents or when they're incarcerated so a kids put into the system. You're comparing apples to oranges.
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Typical red herring response.
Abject poverty in the Great Depression did not cause kids to routinely kill each other.
No. Just plenty of grown adults involved in organized crime.
Later on these would devolve into what we now call gangs. Who prey on children raised in poverty.
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from the cdc-drugs kill more people than guns. don't have the breakdown in age groups
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm
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Typical red herring response.
Abject poverty in the Great Depression did not cause kids to routinely kill each other.
1933 saw the highest homicide mortality rate in the entire 1900s (9.7) until 1980 (10.0). (Also a bad economic year.) To put it in context, the rate was 6.5 in 2020.
The Great Depression was a very violent time in our history - also driven largely by gun violence. It got better as the economy slowly improved throughout the 1930s, but let's not pretend it was some idyllic time.
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1933 saw the highest homicide mortality rate in the entire 1900s (9.7) until 1980 (10.0). (Also a bad economic year.) To put it in context, the rate was 6.5 in 2020.
The Great Depression was a very violent time in our history - also driven largely by gun violence. It got better as the economy slowly improved throughout the 1930s, but let's not pretend it was some idyllic time.
Gun violence is as American as apple pie and baseball
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from the cdc-drugs kill more people than guns. don't have the breakdown in age groups
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm
Cool. And most of those drugs are illegal in the U.S.
Surprised you believe that the U.S. should make guns illegal, too.
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Cool. And most of those drugs are illegal in the U.S.
Surprised you believe that the U.S. should make guns illegal, too.
Founding fathers didn’t say anything about drugs in the constitution, yet we think we know better than them. SMDH
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Drugs don't kill people. They are just inanimate objects. People kill people.
People weren't dying from drug use when they still went to church.
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“If people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.”
-- Drug expert Rush Limbaugh 1995
"Except me."
-- Drug addict Rush Limbaugh 2003
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For hards:
https://www.wkow.com/townnews/law/tsa-intercepts-record-number-of-firearms-at-airport-checkpoints-in-2022-most-of-them-loaded/article_404aa92b-952d-549e-85ac-5eec2804bfef.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_WKOW (https://www.wkow.com/townnews/law/tsa-intercepts-record-number-of-firearms-at-airport-checkpoints-in-2022-most-of-them-loaded/article_404aa92b-952d-549e-85ac-5eec2804bfef.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_WKOW)
Yes, I'm aware. And most of those are people forgetting that they've packed a gun, left it in a bag, or didn't know they couldn't bring it. They're not actively trying to hide the firearm.
https://onemileatatime.com/tsa-fails-tests-95-percent/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-us-airports-allowed-weapons-through-n367851
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/us/tsa-gun-flight/index.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelgoldstein/2017/11/09/tsa-misses-70-of-fake-weapons-but-thats-an-improvement/?sh=1dcffe712a38
https://reason.com/2021/11/19/after-20-years-of-failure-kill-the-tsa/
They're trash.
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U.S. Senator Thom Tillis from N.C., one of the Republican leaders of the bipartisan firearm-responsibility legislation that passed Congress earlier this year, has gotten heat from those to his right. But he told McClatchey News Service that he doesn't regret working on the bill with Democrat Chris Murphy following the school shooting in Uvalde.
“All the concerns that the Second Amendment advocates have have not materialized,” Tillis said. “In other words, they’re still processing instant background checks at the same rate they were before the bill got implemented.”
But Tillis said what he learned the bill did do was more meaningful.
Part of the bill created the ability for juvenile records to be used for criminal background checks for young adults trying to buy firearms.
As of an update he received two weeks ago: “We’ve had 11 people who are under the age of 21 who went to buy a weapon and they had serious mental health adjudications or criminal background checks,” Tillis said. “In one case, a person was going to trial, who had just gone to a hearing three days earlier for assault and battery on a police officer, who was going to try and purchase a long gun.”
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Per the CDC's own data the difference between gun violence and defensive gun usage is about 2 orders of magnitude. They deduce that as many as 2.5 million incidences of DGU occur yearly each year.
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Per the CDC's own data the difference between gun violence and defensive gun usage is about 2 orders of magnitude. They deduce that as many as 2.5 million incidences of DGU occur yearly each year.
I Google this up...see its been a recent Fox News talking point...snicker and found someone else to ignore on this matter.
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Typical red herring response.
Abject poverty in the Great Depression did not cause kids to routinely kill each other.
Typical uninformed post.
U.S. Homicide rate (per 100,000)
1933: 9.7
2021: 6.9
Sources:
https://www.history.com/topics/great-depression/crime-in-the-great-depression
https://time.com/6216504/fbi-crime-report-2021/
Edit: Oof .. I see Sultan beat me to it.
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Typical uninformed post.
U.S. Homicide rate (per 100,000)
1933: 9.7
2021: 6.9
Sources:
https://www.history.com/topics/great-depression/crime-in-the-great-depression
https://time.com/6216504/fbi-crime-report-2021/
Edit: Oof .. I see Sultan beat me to it.
Just don't expect facts to have any impact on his beliefs.
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Per the CDC's own data the difference between gun violence and defensive gun usage is about 2 orders of magnitude. They deduce that as many as 2.5 million incidences of DGU occur yearly each year.
This figure comes from a 30-year-old, widely disputed and deeply flawed study that has since been revised by its author.
Just on the face of it, it doesn't make any sense. For that figure to be accurate, there would have to be nearly 7,000 DGU per day in the U.S. 7,000!
https://www.vacps.org/public-policy/the-contradictions-of-kleck
https://reason.com/2018/09/04/what-the-cdcs-mid-90s-surveys-on-defensi/
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Yes, I'm aware. And most of those are people forgetting that they've packed a gun, left it in a bag, or didn't know they couldn't bring it. They're not actively trying to hide the firearm.
https://onemileatatime.com/tsa-fails-tests-95-percent/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-us-airports-allowed-weapons-through-n367851
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/us/tsa-gun-flight/index.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelgoldstein/2017/11/09/tsa-misses-70-of-fake-weapons-but-thats-an-improvement/?sh=1dcffe712a38
https://reason.com/2021/11/19/after-20-years-of-failure-kill-the-tsa/
They're trash.
Apropos of nothing, I’ve been in a TSA line 4 times while a gun was found over the last 3-4 years. One person was genuinely surprised that it was not allowed (probably not mentally competent to own a firearm based on that alone) and the other 3 were varying shades of mortified/embarrassed/terrified. Either they were Jeremy Irons caliber actors or just clueless and forgetful.
Closer to the point, I have friends that have forgotten and passed through TSA with a large folding knife, a taser, and full bottle of wine.
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Closer to the point, I have friends that have forgotten and passed through TSA with a large folding knife, a taser, and full bottle of wine.
Sounds like a hella interesting party.
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“If people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.”
-- Drug expert Rush Limbaugh 1995
"Except me."
-- Drug addict Rush Limbaugh 2003
so tell me 82, do all drug addicts lack credibility or just the ones you don't like? the ones you disagree with-pull the drug addict card on them? this could get real juicy
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so tell me 82, do all drug addicts lack credibility or just the ones you don't like? the ones you disagree with-pull the drug addict card on them? this could get real juicy
The real question is, do you think drug addicts should be subject to the justice system?
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so tell me 82, do all drug addicts lack credibility or just the ones you don't like? the ones you disagree with-pull the drug addict card on them? this could get real juicy
Drug addicts have sicknesses. Most of them don’t call for all drug addicts (except for themselves) to be imprisoned, like your hypocritical, criminal hero did.
Why are you and those like you always crowing about law and order, and taking responsibility, even as you worship lawless people who don’t accept personal responsibility? This could get real juicy.
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so tell me 82, do all drug addicts lack credibility or just the ones you don't like? the ones you disagree with-pull the drug addict card on them? this could get real juicy
I'm glad Rush is dead.
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Is it because he bitch slapped your brothers and sisters every day, hey?
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Is it because he bitch slapped your brothers and sisters every day, hey?
I respected the fact that he knew how to grift a generation of suckers with his act
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Is it because he bitch slapped your brothers and sisters every day, hey?
LOL
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I'm glad Rush is dead.
ya know, there are a number of people i disagree with, but i never wish death or ill will upon them. you must be smoking that mr angry weed again
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ya know, there are a number of people i disagree with, but i never wish death or ill will upon them. you must be smoking that mr angry weed again
I've explained this to you, I don't partake. I don't think people who do are bad.
Rush is awful though. May he rest in piss.
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Leaders in Florida and other states are preventing teachers from talking to kids about numerous subjects ... but thank goodness promoting the NRA in schools is A-OK!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/20/us/jrotc-nra-schools.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20221221&instance_id=80748&nl=the-morning®i_id=108420427&segment_id=120442&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
CAPE CORAL, Fla. — Beneath the fluorescent lights of a high school gym, dozens of teenagers took turns firing air rifles at a series of bull's-eye targets, part of a marksmanship competition that drew students from schools all along the Florida Gulf Coast.
The event was better outfitted than many high school competitions, with lights that illuminated the targets, scopes for spotting downrange and a heavy curtain to keep pellets from going astray, thanks to the help of a key sponsor: the charitable arm of the National Rifle Association.
“A lot of the equipment that you see behind me comes from N.R.A. grants,” Bryan Williams, a retired Army major who teaches in the Junior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps program at Mariner High School in Cape Coral, told the contestants.
That tip of the hat was no casual remark. In order to win N.R.A. sponsorships, records show, military instructors who lead J.R.O.T.C. marksmanship teams at public high schools have repeatedly promised to promote the organization at competitions and in newsletters, post N.R.A. banners at their schools or add the N.R.A. logo to apparel worn by students.
In his pitch, Mr. Williams also offered to provide student testimonials to the organization “to include supporting photographs and storyboards showcasing the equipment and the happy cadets.”
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Well we made it 2 more pages than I thought we would. Kudos to everyone. See you all in the next version of this
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Well we made it 2 more pages than I thought we would. Kudos to everyone. See you all in the next version of this
OP's obsession/fetish with kids with guns is bizarre.
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Your obsession with the OP and the sultan is nothing to brag about.
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Your obsession with the OP and the sultan is nothing to brag about.
As is yours protecting them.
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Nah. I disagree with them all the time.
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Nah. I disagree with them all the time.
Crazy!
Me too.
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Leaders in Florida and other states are preventing teachers from talking to kids about numerous subjects ... but thank goodness promoting the NRA in schools is A-OK!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/20/us/jrotc-nra-schools.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20221221&instance_id=80748&nl=the-morning®i_id=108420427&segment_id=120442&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
CAPE CORAL, Fla. — Beneath the fluorescent lights of a high school gym, dozens of teenagers took turns firing air rifles at a series of bull's-eye targets, part of a marksmanship competition that drew students from schools all along the Florida Gulf Coast.
The event was better outfitted than many high school competitions, with lights that illuminated the targets, scopes for spotting downrange and a heavy curtain to keep pellets from going astray, thanks to the help of a key sponsor: the charitable arm of the National Rifle Association.
“A lot of the equipment that you see behind me comes from N.R.A. grants,” Bryan Williams, a retired Army major who teaches in the Junior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps program at Mariner High School in Cape Coral, told the contestants.
That tip of the hat was no casual remark. In order to win N.R.A. sponsorships, records show, military instructors who lead J.R.O.T.C. marksmanship teams at public high schools have repeatedly promised to promote the organization at competitions and in newsletters, post N.R.A. banners at their schools or add the N.R.A. logo to apparel worn by students.
In his pitch, Mr. Williams also offered to provide student testimonials to the organization “to include supporting photographs and storyboards showcasing the equipment and the happy cadets.”
no chit man! it's taking time away from our little darlings day when it could be much better utilized watching some dude in a dress with oversized prosthetic breasteses swing their jonesey around singing songs about how to jazz around with it and then get little goodies passed out for their undue attention; punch cards for extra credit-excellent!!
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no chit man! it's taking time away from our little darlings day when it could be much better utilized watching some dude in a dress with oversized prosthetic breasteses swing their jonesey around singing songs about how to jazz around with it and then get little goodies passed out for their undue attention; punch cards for extra credit-excellent!!
My lord! What a fantastic post! On point to the topic at hand? No. Nonetheless, it really encapsulates the rocket experience. It’s missing some of the classics but I’m still giving this a 9.5 out of 10. Bravo!
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no chit man! it's taking time away from our little darlings day when it could be much better utilized watching some dude in a dress with oversized prosthetic breasteses swing their jonesey around singing songs about how to jazz around with it and then get little goodies passed out for their undue attention; punch cards for extra credit-excellent!!
Behold! The power of Fox!
(https://images2.imgbox.com/3a/5c/KGXOznUW_o.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/KGXOznUW)
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My lord! What a fantastic post! On point to the topic at hand? No. Nonetheless, it really encapsulates the rocket experience. It’s missing some of the classics but I’m still giving this a 9.5 out of 10. Bravo!
A Christmas miracle!
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no chit man! it's taking time away from our little darlings day when it could be much better utilized watching some dude in a dress with oversized prosthetic breasteses swing their jonesey around singing songs about how to jazz around with it and then get little goodies passed out for their undue attention; punch cards for extra credit-excellent!!
Many of your recent posts hadn't been up to your standards, roQQet. Nice to see you rallying strong as the year winds down.
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My lord! What a fantastic post! On point to the topic at hand? No. Nonetheless, it really encapsulates the rocket experience. It’s missing some of the classics but I’m still giving this a 9.5 out of 10. Bravo!
so you are all for the transgender/drag experience starting with our 3-4-5 year olds and up? just more evidence of the sick minds we all suspected all along, but educating someone on safe handling of guns bad??
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so you are all for the transgender/drag experience starting with our 3-4-5 year olds and up? just more evidence of the sick minds we all suspected all along, but educating someone on safe handling of guns bad??
There you go! Pedophilia accusations. Good boy!
(https://images2.imgbox.com/e8/6b/rwY4GR3Y_o.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/rwY4GR3Y)
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so you are all for the transgender/drag experience starting with our 3-4-5 year olds and up? just more evidence of the sick minds we all suspected all along, but educating someone on safe handling of guns bad??
Please tell me what is wrong with teaching kids to love themselves and the people they meet each day.
These are the people in your neighborhood.
Otherising them leads to hate and division and ends up with sexually repressed indoctrinated weirdos shooting up night clubs.
Guns kill. There is absolutely zero reason for a 3-4 year old to be anywhere near them. If you want to teach a teenager how to safely fire a hunting rifle, that is 100% okay in my book.
But I know, you'll just ignore this, and dig yourself further into the culture war you're trying to expand. And you'll lose. You're going to be screaming at your cable news propaganda until you're crapting your pants in an old folks home. And you'll have wasted thousands and thousands of hours being hateful for nothing.
I can't imagine spending my short amount of time on earth doing something so Sisyphean.
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so you are all for the transgender/drag experience starting with our 3-4-5 year olds and up? just more evidence of the sick minds we all suspected all along, but educating someone on safe handling of guns bad??
I wouldn't have a problem with "3-4-5 year olds" interacting with transgender individuals at all. Why is that a problem?
And by "drag shows," like with anything else, it depends on the nature and content. Do I have a problem with a man dressing as a woman and reading a book to them at a library? No. Why is that a problem?
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so you are all for the transgender/drag experience starting with our 3-4-5 year olds and up? just more evidence of the sick minds we all suspected all along, but educating someone on safe handling of guns bad??
Dude, I did a play in drag in high school. I survived and am straight.
And, yes, I did expose my children to a variety of thought and experiences. I would rather my son end up a drag queen than a closed minded conspiracy minded asshat dentist.
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Dude, I did a play in drag in high school. I survived and am straight.
And, yes, I did expise.my children to a.variwty of thought and experiences. I would rather my son end up a drag queen than a closed minded conspiracy minded asshat dentist.
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so you are all for the transgender/drag experience starting with our 3-4-5 year olds and up? just more evidence of the sick minds we all suspected all along, but educating someone on safe handling of guns bad??
I mean this with all sincerity, this is a 9 out of 10 but please start including more of your classics. Also, Bobby Hurley
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I meant Gosar. Duh.
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My lord! What a fantastic post! On point to the topic at hand? No. Nonetheless, it really encapsulates the rocket experience. It’s missing some of the classics but I’m still giving this a 9.5 out of 10. Bravo!
I'd been skipping over this thread since early on. Decided to open it this morning for some reason, and boy am I happy I did. I'm in tears I'm laughing so hard at this.
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I'd been skipping over this thread since early on. Decided to open it this morning for some reason, and boy am I happy I did. I'm in tears I'm laughing so hard at this.
Your Scoop game is off since you moved to Missouri.
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Your Scoop game is off since you moved to Missouri.
Yeah it has. I took another 7 hour drive last night. My internet went out the entire drive! Crazy.
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Not a real fan.
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Dude, I did a play in drag in high school. I survived and am straight.
And, yes, I did expose my children to a variety of thought and experiences. I would rather my son end up a drag queen than a closed minded conspiracy minded asshat dentist.
Asshat = ban for ad hominum attack. Fair is fair, right?
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If it comes I'll take it. First in 16 plus years. How many have you had again?
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If it comes I'll take it. First in 16 plus years. How many have you had again?
2. One for asshat.
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Dude, I did a play in drag in high school. I survived and am straight.
And, yes, I did expose my children to a variety of thought and experiences. I would rather my son end up a drag queen than a closed minded conspiracy minded asshat dentist.
so there ya have it..i wouldn't want my kid or yours being that closed minded conspiracy minded blah blah dentist that you speak of either. those are the worst kind
** i got banned for calling someone an blah-blah but you're in the protected, umm,
"DEI" class so not holding my breath
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so there ya have it..i wouldn't want my kid or yours being that closed minded conspiracy minded blah blah dentist that you speak of either. those are the worst kind
** i got banned for calling someone an blah-blah but you're in the protected, umm,
"DEI" class so not holding my breath
Oh, man. You’re posting a treatise today!
Adding victimhood is another fantastic addition. I can’t lie, I’m eagerly awaiting your next masterpiece. 9.5 out of 10
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Oh, man. You’re posting a treatise today!
Adding victimhood is another fantastic addition. I can’t lie, I’m eagerly awaiting your next masterpiece. 9.5 out of 10
I'm just trying to figure out what "DEI" class tower is in.
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In case the affronted get their wish,
Merry Christmas to all!
Be safe, be warm, be loved. Take a moment to pray for those who are not. Those homeless refugees taking refuge in stables, for example. I will see you all in 2023. Ho ho ho.
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so there ya have it..i wouldn't want my kid or yours being that closed minded conspiracy minded blah blah dentist that you speak of either. those are the worst kind
** i got banned for calling someone an blah-blah but you're in the protected, umm,
"DEI" class so not holding my breath
You're so rugged and manly.
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If it comes I'll take it.
Oh
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I'm just trying to figure out what "DEI" class tower is in.
Trying to understand the conspiracy-addled wingnuts is not an easy task. Only Bobby Hurley is up to it
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If it comes I'll take it. First in 16 plus years. How many have you had again?
Fahrenheit, ya don't get a choice, hey?
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Oh
Well played.
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Fahrenheit, ya don't get a choice, hey?
I've always wanted to be in the cool kids club. Might even try some meat.
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There might be more snow in this thread than outside!
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I'm just trying to figure out what "DEI" class tower is in.
dei judicium
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I wouldn't want my kid to turn out to be an unfair asshat message board moderator. Not that I know any of those. Or have any kids.
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Debonair
Enlightening
Inspirational
(Rocky, not me. Yes, I am kissing up. Deal with it)
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Moderator says no foul.
Commence.
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Let’s move this to the PC free throw thread now.
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I've always wanted to be in the cool kids club. Might even try some meat.
I Love the sarcasm. You don’t do it often.
If you are banned, my protest will be to avoid all game summaries on Scoop.
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Should probably do that anyway. Particularly after losses.
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Moderator says no foul.
Commence.
Actually there is a lot of fouls in this thread. Fowls too. So I'll do what I should have done days ago.