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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: OldWarrior on November 30, 2022, 11:17:57 AM
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What has happened to Zach Wrightsil? I thought when we needed size he was an option.
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What has happened to Zach Wrightsil? I thought when we needed size he was an option.
He transfered
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Transferred to Wisconsin
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Lingering knee issues after he had surgery on it in June.
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What has happened to Zach Wrightsil? I thought when we needed size he was an option.
See: injury reports.
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Medical redshirt requirements:
The injury must have occurred in the first half of the season, and the athlete must have competed in less than 30 percent of the season.
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Looks like he meets those requirements. I don’t think he plays another minute for MU. I think he transfers at the end of the season and plays another season somewhere else.
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Medical redshirt requirements:
The injury must have occurred in the first half of the season, and the athlete must have competed in less than 30 percent of the season.
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Looks like he meets those requirements. I don’t think he plays another minute for MU. I think he transfers at the end of the season and plays another season somewhere else.
I was wondering last night if he could redshirt being a 5th year senior. I think you may be right.
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I don't think we will see Wrightsil until after winter break. I think they want to give him time to get healthy and then will need time to work him back into the rotation.
I don't think he will take a medical redshirt unless the knee issue really lingers.
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With our scholarship situation even if he takes a medical redshirt it likely won’t be at Marquette.
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With our scholarship situation even if he takes a medical redshirt it likely won’t be at Marquette.
I think he still has value to give to this team. Oso is going to need rest and Wrightsil has a lot of similar skills.
He may only get 8-10 minutes but they will be important. Gotta start by getting healthy.
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Shaka has said one thing repeatedly about Zach- that we should expect him to be much better in December than he is in Nov, much better in Jan than in December and so on and so forth.
I think it’s wise to believe what Shaka is preaching at this point.
So, I’d suggest that before seasons end ZW still plays a major role on this squad.
Giving him some extra time to recover early in the season is the right move, and it has the added benefit of getting Ben and hopefully even Keeyan- when inevitably Oso ends up in some foul trouble- some extra run for times of need.
As long as his knee injury doesn’t become a season ender I tend to believe Shaka that Zach Wrightsil be a much better player later in the season, and have an important role on this years squad.
Maybe not as prominent as we had expected, but still important.
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There’s no such thing as ‘taking a medical redshirt’. There is a medical hardship waiver, which does not involve a decision of, ‘should I play or just sit out the rest of the year’. It’s based on incapacity to compete.
So, unless there’s a doctor that wants to say, ‘he cannot play’ and that continues to be the case through March, the rest of the conversation or thoughts isn’t relevant. If his knee isn’t letting him play until early February… he can’t just say, ‘well, I could play now, but I’d rather just sit out and be eligible for a medical hardship waiver’.. that’s not the rule.
Now, if he goes back for surgery next week, I’d change my tune.. but, knee soreness in November doesn’t make me think he’s going to be physically unable to compete for the next three and a half months. If he’s able to go, then he doesn’t fit the criteria of the medical hardship waiver.
If somehow we got past that, then we get into the matters of this being a bonus COVID year.. and interplay between NAIA vs. DI and the Five-Year Rule… would get a little messy.
As of now, I think this is his last year of playing college basketball unless he gets another procedure(s) done and is incapable of playing through March.. but even then, it's not a #donedeal
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There’s no such thing as ‘taking a medical redshirt’. There is a medical hardship waiver, which does not involve a decision of, ‘should I play or just sit out the rest of the year’. It’s based on incapacity to compete.
So, unless there’s a doctor that wants to say, ‘he cannot play’ and that continues to be the case through March, the rest of the conversation or thoughts isn’t relevant. If his knee isn’t letting him play until early February… he can’t just say, ‘well, I could play now, but I’d rather just sit out and be eligible for a medical hardship waiver’.. that’s not the rule.
Now, if he goes back for surgery next week, I’d change my tune.. but, knee soreness in November doesn’t make me think he’s going to be physically unable to compete for the next three and a half months. If he’s able to go, then he doesn’t fit the criteria of the medical hardship waiver.
If somehow we got past that, then we get into the matters of this being a bonus COVID year.. and interplay between NAIA vs. DI and the Five-Year Rule… would get a little messy.
As of now, I think this is his last year of playing college basketball unless he gets another procedure(s) done and is incapable of playing through March.. but even then, it's not a #donedeal
Ron, Ponce gold
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Do we know if he’s able to practice at all, or is it pretty much lay low until a set date to determine how things with the knee have progressed?
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Do we know if he’s able to practice at all, or is it pretty much lay low until a set date to determine how things with the knee have progressed?
I am not a doctor but I play one on Scoop. Pregame in Ft. Myers they were putting him through light 1:1 drills and I'd say he was about 60%. He is visibly walking with a limp due to inflammation. He is not scrimmaging nor is he even participating in pre-game team warm ups. Rest and treatment for now as TAMU and JayBee said with the hope he can get into playing shape over break.
Maybe Jimmy John's front of the house workers can provide a more thorough Scoop medical assessment?
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It's December 1st. There's lots of golf left. I see no reason to rush him back until after Christmas. He will be needed most in conf when teams have tape on Oso and work to get him in foul trouble.
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It's unfortunate to say the least, but i don't see him contributing any meaningful minutes at Marquette. even once fully healthy, he'll need to get back into game ready shape (which could take weeks if all accounts of him not practicing are true). Then even after becoming ready to play he'll need to sync with his teammates. This would be easier if he had played with these guys before, but he hasn't. I think Shaka will choose to play others and focus on long term development. Remember, even when fully healthy Zach was going to be a role player at best.
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Remember, even when fully healthy Zach was going to be a role player at best.
Was he? A "role player at best?"
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When Oso needs to sit...Jop, O-Max, and/or Gold offer "similar" rebounding and defense with the ability to play 5-out.
I don't see ZW benefiting us if he can't hit from outside.
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Was he? A "role player at best?"
I didn't view him as a player that would crack the starting 5 rotation. I also felt Joplin would could off the bench before him so he would slot in at #7. "role player at best" is my language. Maybe other disagree.
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I didn't view him as a player that would crack the starting 5 rotation. I also felt Joplin would could off the bench before him so he would slot in at #7. "role player at best" is my language. Maybe other disagree.
But now, even if healthy he would be #10.
S Jones, Ross, and Gold all ahead of him as well.
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With Sacar?
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With Sacar?
Took long enough, I thought this response would be much higher
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Wrightsil was closer to a starter than people will likely ever realize. His injury was a real set back. I feel bad for him. Hopefully he can contribute in some capacity late in the season. Its gonna be tough because Gold will continue to improve and he will have plenty of rust.
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With Sacar?
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Wrightsil was closer to a starter than people will likely ever realize. His injury was a real set back. I feel bad for him. Hopefully he can contribute in some capacity late in the season. Its gonna be tough because Gold will continue to improve and he will have plenty of rust.
I've always heard the same. I don't know that he was going to start but I think he was viewed as a guy who was going to get at least 18 minutes a game. Knee injuries can be killer.
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But now, even if healthy he would be #10.
S Jones, Ross, and Gold all ahead of him as well.
This^ Exactly why i said i don't think he'll play any significant minutes at Marquette.
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I am not a doctor but I play one on Scoop. Pregame in Ft. Myers they were putting him through light 1:1 drills and I'd say he was about 60%. He is visibly walking with a limp due to inflammation. He is not scrimmaging nor is he even participating in pre-game team warm ups. Rest and treatment for now as TAMU and JayBee said with the hope he can get into playing shape over break.
Maybe Jimmy John's front of the house workers can provide a more thorough Scoop medical assessment?
Made me laugh; I really like this statement.
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But now, even if healthy he would be #10.
S Jones, Ross, and Gold all ahead of him as well.
I underestimated how big of a factor Ross would be this year. I expected Wrightsil to give us a similar level of production that Ross is giving us now and vice versa.
If Wrightsil gets healthy and earns some minutes that can only be good for our team. I’m not really sure whose minutes he would get though currently.
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I’d love a Trent Lockett type of role later on in the season.
Productive glue guy that does a bit of everything and has a lot of value with his hustle and defensive energy.
That’s how I remember Trent at least
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I underestimated how big of a factor Ross would be this year. I expected Wrightsil to give us a similar level of production that Ross is giving us now and vice versa.
If Wrightsil gets healthy and earns some minutes that can only be good for our team. I’m not really sure whose minutes he would get though currently.
Great points…..when I saw CR early in the season I said ok…try him out see what he can do. Shaka is a best practice guys play. Which is awesome. I equate it to wrestle offs in HS.
May the best man win. If you bring it in practice…you play. Shaka isnt sending Jop in because we are down 10 points and need 3 quick 3s. Jop will play if he unnatural carnal knowledgeing defends.
I. Love. It.
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I was wondering last night if he could redshirt being a 5th year senior. I think you may be right.
Yup. Name our player who did that.
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I underestimated how big of a factor Ross would be this year. I expected Wrightsil to give us a similar level of production that Ross is giving us now and vice versa.
If Wrightsil gets healthy and earns some minutes that can only be good for our team. I’m not really sure whose minutes he would get though currently.
The injury to Wrightsil gives Ross more opportunity, which in the long run might be better for us.
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Yup. Name our player who did that.
Ummm...the tall Irish-sounding-named kid with one eye?
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The injury to Wrightsil gives Ross more opportunity, which in the long run might be better for us.
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Disagree there, Ross is a guard, Wrightsil is totally an inside player. MU already playing 9 guys, not sure there is any room for him.
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I was wondering last night if he could redshirt being a 5th year senior. I think you may be right.
He could. While he played four years at Loyola New Orleans he got 20-21 back. However, since he played against LIU he has to be medically disqualified for the remainder of the season by a doctor.
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Did Shaka offer Wrightsil before or after it was known he'd need knee surgery?
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Did Shaka offer Wrightsil before or after it was known he'd need knee surgery?
Zach hid it from Shaka...
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Zach hid it from Shaka...
If true, his scholarship should be cancelled.
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Zach hid it from Shaka...
If true, it reminds me of this:
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Ernest Eugene, walked into Williams' office, shut the door and said, "Did you know he has a glass eye?"
"What the (expletive) are you talking about?" Williams answered.
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If true, his scholarship should be cancelled.
Cancel it....
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Cancel it....
NCAA bylaws would allow it to be cancelled immediately in that case. That said, do we have proof this happened?
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NCAA bylaws would allow it to be cancelled immediately in that case. That said, do we have proof this happened?
I have a letter
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Newsie is usually hitting the mamajuana when he posts. And when he's not posting ;D
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Newsie is usually hitting the mamajuana when he posts. And when he's not posting ;D
Wrong, ron and more accurate Ponce gold. Ask RC about XO ;D
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If he "hid" it, shame on our recruiting team for not doing proper due diligence.
My estimate is the injury was disclosed but it may have been more severe than anyone expected, including Messrs. Wrightsil and Smart.
It's probably a risk we took that bit us where the sun don't shine. We're dealing with 21-year-old bodies and recovery can sometimes be unpredictable.
My hope is that by mid-season, Mr. Wrightsil is a part of our rotation and making a meaningful contribution. That may be asking quite a bit, but one can hope.
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He could. While he played four years at Loyola New Orleans he got 20-21 back. However, since he played against LIU he has to be medically disqualified for the remainder of the season by a doctor.
Should be easy to find a doctor to say that
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Should be easy to find a doctor to say that
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"If played, Mr. Wrightsil, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever to have played basketball for Marquette University."
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"If played, Mr. Wrightsil, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever to have played basketball for Marquette University."
Funny. What's the saying, never get a haircut by a barber who has the best haircut in the room. Does that apply to doctors and their physical condition as well?
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As I recall, the training staff noticed something in Wrightsil's gait in practice that led them to getting his knee checked out. I don't believe Wrightsil nor the staff was aware before then.
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Is he done for the season?
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i honestly forgot he was even on the team at this point.
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Is he done for the season?
I doubt it. It takes time to work a player back into a rotation. My guess is they are waiting until after Christmas