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Title: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: NCMUFan on November 23, 2022, 10:43:32 AM
W or L?
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Goose on November 23, 2022, 10:47:28 AM
I actually have a very positive feeling about the game tonight. I felt unsure to negative going into Purdue and MS, but think they are going to have a very good showing tonight.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 23, 2022, 11:12:14 AM
My feeling is if we don’t win this season is starting to go off the rails.  MU by 15! 
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: tower912 on November 23, 2022, 11:14:09 AM
Win or lose, there will be spectacularly bad hot takes, wailing, gnashing of teeth, rending of garments.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Newsdreams on November 23, 2022, 11:15:14 AM
Win or lose, there will be spectacularly bad hot takes, wailing, gnashing of teeth, rending of garments.
Wouldn't be Scoop!!
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 23, 2022, 11:42:01 AM
Massive loss
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 11:46:07 AM
I'll say a 3 point loss similar to Monday.

This is a must win already at this point in the season and the players know it.  They haven't handled pressure so far this season. I'd guess we see similar results.

I'd like to see Sean Jones get a slight uptick in minutes from his 13 in Monday at the expense of Kam if he's shooting us out of a game again tonight.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 23, 2022, 11:48:04 AM
It isn’t a must win. Cmon…
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 11:52:35 AM
It isn’t a must win. Cmon…

It absolutely is. It'd be a Quad 3 loss.  The record would be 3-3.

Remaining Non-Con against Chicago State, Baylor, Wisconsin, NCCU, Notre Dame.

With Baylor and Wisconsin likely being losses, you'd need to beat ND on the road just to finish above .500 in the NonCon.  Even with a win at ND they'd be 6-5.  Meaning they'd likely have to go 12-8 in the Big East to be on the bubble at 18-13.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 23, 2022, 11:54:54 AM
It isn’t a must win. Cmon…

No game is a must win until the NCAA tournament. However, a loss would be a fairly sizable check mark in the negative column for this year and likely would have some negative predictive value regarding their chances to make the NCAA tournament.

But you are Greg Brady correct.  It is not must win. 
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 23, 2022, 12:00:44 PM
It absolutely is. It'd be a Quad 3 loss.  The record would be 3-3.

Remaining Non-Con against Chicago State, Baylor, Wisconsin, NCCU, Notre Dame.

With Baylor and Wisconsin likely being losses, you'd need to beat ND on the road just to finish above .500 in the NonCon.  Even with a win at ND they'd be 6-5.  Meaning they'd likely have to go 12-8 in the Big East to be on the bubble at 18-13.

So in other words…not a must win.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 12:17:23 PM
So in other words…not a must win.

Only if you think Marquette is going to be better in conference this year than they were last year.  They won 11 in the BE last year including a 7 game winning streak.

Newsflash for you though m, they are not getting more than 11 this year. Today is a must win.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: jfp61 on November 23, 2022, 12:29:07 PM
It absolutely is. It'd be a Quad 3 loss.  The record would be 3-3.

Remaining Non-Con against Chicago State, Baylor, Wisconsin, NCCU, Notre Dame.

With Baylor and Wisconsin likely being losses, you'd need to beat ND on the road just to finish above .500 in the NonCon.  Even with a win at ND they'd be 6-5.  Meaning they'd likely have to go 12-8 in the Big East to be on the bubble at 18-13.

Why is wisco a likely lose? Beyond being on the road, I really don't think it is. You might be able to say that in a few days if they rack up a couple of wins. But beating Stanford on a baseball diamond isn't enough to say they are a top 45-50 team.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 12:30:43 PM
Why is wisco a likely lose? Beyond being on the road, I really don't think it is. You might be able to say that in a few days if they rack up a couple of wins. But beating Stanford on a baseball diamond isn't enough to say they are a top 45-50 team.

UW is playing us in Milwaukee, but it's Wisconsin. They always seem to find a way even in down years. They limit mistakes and we've already struggled in a slow game.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Elonsmusk on November 23, 2022, 12:39:34 PM
UW is playing us in Milwaukee, but it's Wisconsin. They always seem to find a way even in down years. They limit mistakes and we've already struggled in a slow game.

I feel really good about us beating UW-Madison.  They aren't very athletic, nor are they very physical - which in past years you could make a case for them being physical.  Losing Johnny Davis and Brad Davison were big losses.  Look at their roster - pretty meh.  Our athleticism should cause them problems.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: jfp61 on November 23, 2022, 12:40:11 PM
UW is playing us in Milwaukee, but it's Wisconsin. They always seem to find a way even in down years. They limit mistakes and we've already struggled in a slow game.

I just made the road assumption because you said likely loss, and forgot they were home.

As of today, Marquette is favorites on KP, Barttovik, Haslametrics, so likely loss might be a little strong.

They are currently more likely to lose to ND than they are to lose to Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Mu8891 on November 23, 2022, 12:57:22 PM
If playing this year’s UW team - at home - is a “ likely “ loss then MU is in real trouble….

And it will be a very VERY long year if they do in fact lose.  It’s a very winnable game.  At home.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 23, 2022, 01:01:21 PM
Win or lose, there will be spectacularly bad hot takes, wailing, gnashing of teeth, rending of garments.

No pitch forks?
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: 1SE on November 23, 2022, 01:01:56 PM
A win is very important tonight - MU hasn't won a meaningful game since Feb 2. This game isn't meaningful either, but a 3-3 start to the season, where the three wins were the cupiestcakes in the league, wouldn't be encouraging. 
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
I just made the road assumption because you said likely loss, and forgot they were home.

As of today, Marquette is favorites on KP, Barttovik, Haslametrics, so likely loss might be a little strong.

They are currently more likely to lose to ND than they are to lose to Wisconsin.

Which isn't great because Wisconsin is better.

I think we should have a shot to beat UW, but until the game is over I will always be skeptical of that game because I almost run out of fingers and toes counting the amount of times I felt good about a win against them and we end up losing.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Fred Garvin on November 23, 2022, 01:04:34 PM
Need omax,oso and Joplin to show up
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: 🏀 on November 23, 2022, 01:17:43 PM
9-12 point win.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 23, 2022, 01:24:14 PM
No pitch forks?

Shaka should have been on the hot seat after the Purdue loss
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: MuMark on November 23, 2022, 01:37:15 PM
UW is playing us in Milwaukee, but it's Wisconsin. They always seem to find a way even in down years. They limit mistakes and we've already struggled in a slow game.

They have “ found a way to win” exactly 6 of the last 12 games they have played against us……which includes some of the best teams UW has  ever had.

Yeah they have just dominated the matchup……relax
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Jay Bee on November 23, 2022, 01:38:03 PM
Pray a couple extra treys drop for us tonight & we’ll be ok
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 23, 2022, 01:41:45 PM
Only if you think Marquette is going to be better in conference this year than they were last year.  They won 11 in the BE last year including a 7 game winning streak.

Newsflash for you though m, they are not getting more than 11 this year. Today is a must win.

Nope. Not a must win. Those don’t exist in November.

They very well might get more than 11 wins in conference. They could get 20!
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 23, 2022, 01:41:55 PM
I’d like to see kolek with another efficient three point shooting night again. He needs to be the leader that settles everything down.  He needs to be the alpha on this team for it to be a tournament team.   
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 01:50:57 PM
They have “ found a way to win” exactly 6 of the last 12 games they have played against us……which includes some of the best teams UW has  ever had.

Yeah they have just dominated the matchup……relax

Just watched their first 8 minutes against Dayton and the announcers claim they have shooting all over the floor.  Just compared one of their Freshman to Tyler Herro.  That's an All-Time dig 😂😂 well done by that guy.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Newsdreams on November 23, 2022, 02:26:29 PM
I'll say a 3 point loss similar to Monday.

This is a must win already at this point in the season and the players know it.  They haven't handled pressure so far this season. I'd guess we see similar results.

I'd like to see Sean Jones get a slight uptick in minutes from his 13 in Monday at the expense of Kam if he's shooting us out of a game again tonight.
COLE
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: MU82 on November 23, 2022, 02:34:59 PM
UW is playing us in Milwaukee, but it's Wisconsin. They always seem to find a way even in down years.

Yes, the Fighting Rodents always seem to find a way ... especially the 4 times in 7 years that they lost to effen Wojo-coached Marquette teams. They really found a way then -- again, 4 times in 7 years -- even though they were favored every time.

Always finding a way.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 23, 2022, 02:37:05 PM
Just watched their first 8 minutes against Dayton and the announcers claim they have shooting all over the floor.  Just compared one of their Freshman to Tyler Herro.  That's an All-Time dig 😂😂 well done by that guy.

Shoot over 30% as a team challenge.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 23, 2022, 02:56:05 PM
Shoot over 30% as a team challenge.

9 minutes to go, both Dayton and Wisconsin shooting 28.9% FG.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: brewcity77 on November 23, 2022, 03:02:47 PM
Smash.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: dgies9156 on November 23, 2022, 03:05:09 PM
Some of that Tyler Kolek spirit needs to come out today.

F'k em! Damn straight we will win!

Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: tower912 on November 23, 2022, 03:08:12 PM
Is that the rum talking?
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: MuMark on November 23, 2022, 03:22:35 PM
https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1595527254188122122?s=61&t=R174yDp5ZXJ8hbUnC4aJ-A
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: BM1090 on November 23, 2022, 03:26:56 PM
10+ point win
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: dgies9156 on November 23, 2022, 03:38:05 PM
Is that the rum talking?

Nope. I'm on final into ORD.

No rum in sight.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 23, 2022, 03:39:48 PM
GE03 is being melodramatic as is his custom. He's not wrong that this is an important win for our tournament resume. The Big East is underperforming in non-conference play so far. If that continues, there may not be a lot of opportunities for resume padding once conference play starts up. If we don't win 2/3 of Baylor, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, it may mean having to win 13+ games in the Big East in order to get a bid. Which is doable though not a position I would want to be in. Personally I think we will beat Wisconsin and Baylor. I also think we win by double digits tonight. Watched GT against Utah and didn't see much to be scared about. Utah was practically begging them to win the game by throwing the ball away over and over again (and at least of half of this was dumb mistakes by Utah, not pressure by GT) and they couldn't get it done.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: bilsu on November 23, 2022, 03:43:47 PM
GE03 is being melodramatic as is his custom. He's not wrong that this is an important win for our tournament resume. The Big East is underperforming in non-conference play so far. If that continues, there may not be a lot of opportunities for resume padding once conference play starts up. If we don't win 2/3 of Baylor, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, it may mean having to win 13+ games in the Big East in order to get a bid. Which is doable though not a position I would want to be in. Personally I think we will beat Wisconsin and Baylor. I also think we win by double digits tonight. Watched GT against Utah and didn't see much to be scared about. Utah was practically begging them to win the game by throwing the ball away over and over again (and at least of half of this was dumb mistakes by Utah, not pressure by GT) and they couldn't get it done.
This is not doable for this team.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Goose on November 23, 2022, 03:51:28 PM
I think we win handily tonight.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 23, 2022, 04:06:23 PM
If Marquette can't beat Wisconsin this year, shut down the program.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Newsdreams on November 23, 2022, 04:10:22 PM
If Marquette can't beat Wisconsin this year, shut down the program.
Mope
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 04:10:37 PM
If Marquette can't beat Wisconsin this year, shut down the program.

Nobody has beat UW this year. I think that's quite the overreaction.

I vote beat Georgia Tech 1st and worry about what's next later.  And while we're at it, let's make the computers like our performance tonight too.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 04:15:48 PM
Sounds like Wrightsil is out again according to people watching warmups right now.

Not that it matters or affects anything at this point. Just status quo.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 23, 2022, 04:16:08 PM
Nobody has beat UW this year. I think that's quite the overreaction.

I vote beat Georgia Tech 1st and worry about what's next later.  And while we're at it, let's make the computers like our performance tonight too.

The computers have liked every one of our performances so far this season except Radford and they were neutral on that one.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 23, 2022, 04:17:42 PM
This is not doable for this team.

It is doable. I didn't say it was likely. Big East is down this year, I think we have a reasonable path to 5th place in conference this season. Not where I think we end up, but I see the way.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 04:18:09 PM
The computers have liked every one of our performances so far this season except Radford and they were neutral on that one.

Also the only game this season that Marquette failed to cover.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Daniel on November 23, 2022, 04:21:22 PM
MU wins.  We get multiple players having very good games all at once.    Kolek will have one turnover.   Kam and Jop will score.  Ben will play some and do well.   OMax will have a decent game.  8-10 points and more careful with the ball.   Sean Jones will have a good game, and Chase will play and score.

So.  We win.   Lol
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: DoctorV on November 23, 2022, 04:22:22 PM
Sounds like Wrightsil is out again according to people watching warmups right now.

Not that it matters or affects anything at this point. Just status quo.

You think your boy Shaka blames this whiff of a transfer on his injury as an escape goat if/when the season falls apart?
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 04:23:23 PM
You think your boy Shaka blames this whiff of a transfer on his injury as an escape goat if/when the season falls apart?

No, because Shaka has yet to make any excuses to this point so I don't expect him to ever start.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 23, 2022, 04:33:08 PM
Nobody has beat UW this year. I think that's quite the overreaction.

I vote beat Georgia Tech 1st and worry about what's next later.  And while we're at it, let's make the computers like our performance tonight too.

It's called hyperbole. 

By the way, Wisconsin's last three opponents shot a combined 7-58 from 3. A whopping 12.1%!  What a lucky horseshoe to still be undefeated.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: DoctorV on November 23, 2022, 04:33:52 PM
Hopefully we don’t have to find out!

I actually think Zach will become productive soon. I’m not sure why I think that, but I can’t question my brain just yet.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: BallBoy on November 23, 2022, 04:36:29 PM
Watched the GT v Utah game in person and both teams were pretty bad.  The championship game was Miss St and MU. GT and Utah are small. Utah has Carlson who is tall but no bulk. Struggled down low.

GT struggles to shoot period. Their free throw shooting is just as bad as their 3pt shooting.  The only reason the game was remotely close was because Utah had 19 TOs. 

Unlike Miss St GT is small. They only have one player over 6’8”, < a handful around 6’7 and everyone else is <6’3. They played a four guard lineup and put Franklin down low. Smith is fast and active on defense. Coleman is just ok.

If MU doesn’t win, I will be disappointed.  If MU can control their TOs this could be a pretty one sided game.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: StillWarriors on November 23, 2022, 04:42:26 PM
I feel really good about us beating UW-Madison.  They aren't very athletic, nor are they very physical - which in past years you could make a case for them being physical.  Losing Johnny Davis and Brad Davison were big losses.  Look at their roster - pretty meh.  Our athleticism should cause them problems.

Dayton, which is proving to not be nearly as good as expected, lost by one to WI today on a neutral floor while playing terribly. Some of that due to WI, but a lot of it self-inflicted. I expect us to beat Madison at home.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 23, 2022, 06:56:48 PM
Impressive game.

Georgia Tech was worse than I thought.  Hopefully MU can play like this against real opponents.

They've played good but not good enough. Let's steam roll Chicago State and then try to avoid going 0-3 against NCAA caliber teams.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: brewcity77 on November 23, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
Smash.

Like I said.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: MU82 on November 23, 2022, 08:51:20 PM
Hopefully MU can play like this against real opponents.

Yes, hopefully Marquette will "find a way" against real opponents better than Madison "always found a way" against Wojo.

Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Tha Hound on November 24, 2022, 12:13:47 PM
Sheesh, some absolutely pathetic Badger fear in this thread. Have some respect for yourself
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: MU82 on November 24, 2022, 01:22:02 PM
Sheesh, some absolutely pathetic Badger fear in this thread. Have some respect for yourself

Totally.

And Chicken Little #1 predicted a loss to Georgia Tech, so I feel darn good that he'll be wrong about Madison, too.

Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: wadesworld on November 24, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
GE03 is being melodramatic as is his custom. He's not wrong that this is an important win for our tournament resume. The Big East is underperforming in non-conference play so far. If that continues, there may not be a lot of opportunities for resume padding once conference play starts up. If we don't win 2/3 of Baylor, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, it may mean having to win 13+ games in the Big East in order to get a bid. Which is doable though not a position I would want to be in. Personally I think we will beat Wisconsin and Baylor. I also think we win by double digits tonight. Watched GT against Utah and didn't see much to be scared about. Utah was practically begging them to win the game by throwing the ball away over and over again (and at least of half of this was dumb mistakes by Utah, not pressure by GT) and they couldn't get it done.

I want some of what you’re drinking.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 24, 2022, 02:42:40 PM
I want some of what you’re drinking.

Whoops,  that's supposed to say Wisconsin and Notre Dame
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: wadesworld on November 24, 2022, 02:44:09 PM
Whoops,  that's supposed to say Wisconsin and Notre Dame

That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 24, 2022, 03:06:45 PM
That makes more sense.

Although Baylor barely beat McNeese St.. You never know.
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 24, 2022, 03:27:48 PM
Sheesh, some absolutely pathetic Badger fear in this thread. Have some respect for yourself

Absolutely
Title: Re: Feeling vs Georgia Tech
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2022, 01:14:21 PM
Personally I think we will beat Wisconsin and Baylor.

Never in doubt!

Whoops,  that's supposed to say Wisconsin and Notre Dame

...just ignore this post  ;D